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pinuz1

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I'm a first time user and just seeing how many routes it will take to get everything since there is no harem?
You can see almost every scene in 1 playtrough and interact with every girl and experience like 90% of all the content all girls have to offer, so don't worry too much about it.


(the few scenes you might not get is because you can't do "everything" in 1 run, but if you savescum a bit you should get pretty much every scene no problem)
 

mcsrvb

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It's a very picky thing I know, but damn, the quotes in each dialogue are so annoying to read, it feels like characters are quoting someone else saying the dialogue
 
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is there some sort of ntr in the game? or maybe even just scenes where you share hana?
I guess it'll depend on how far you're willing to stretch the definition -- one of ROs is in active marriage (i.e. with the husband who is still around), another has a very sexually active boyfriend at the start of the game, two ROs can have sex while MC chooses to watch from cuck chair a bench, for yet another you can arrange a hookup at a lesbian bar. Sharing-wise, Rose can be shared with Killian, either in a threesome or by having him replace MC when making a porn movie.

For people who aren't overly sensitive about the subject the answer would probably be no, not really.
 

Ummmh

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Unless you're some sort of an idiot who advertises to others you've fucked one of them outside of the exhibitions i don't see why it'd follow. If you don't make it known then no one will complain, and even if someone did, it's up to them to back up such accusation, or just shut up. Worst case, you could always claim you're trying to keep girl's morale up, as part of your duties.

In any case, GF Hana's potential issue with this would be, you're effectively having an actual affair with another woman behind her back. It's not a grey area at all. (and the game recognizes as much, marking such instances as cheating)


That's bizarre, or maybe just telling -- I had no problem maxing Rose's affection as the first person in the game, simply by treating her like a human being, instead of taking advantage of her.
It's not about advertising that you've done something with the Carnations; it's that Kathleen or any patron with decent access to information resources could conceivably find things out. While it's POSSIBLE you could get away with/make job-related excuses for something, it would be a risk if patrons decide you rigged the game: could get explosive.

The problem is more prevelent if they caught you outright FVCKING one of the Carnations without Kathleen's explicit order, and that Carnation then does very well onstage.

I don't think it's "telling" what happened with Rose's affection (unless Rose gets off on being abused, in which case she would not have got much of that from me), although it's interesting that you went there, immediately.
I was nice to her, and *nice* to her, and NICE to her, and NICE TO HER, and FVCKING NICE TO HER FFS, and her affection stayed zero until I was nice to her in the p0rn video she had to make, when it suddenly jumped 2 points. WTF.
Unless she was looking to be abused by the MC idk what the problem was. I haven't done the walk through check so if she's masochistic that could explain the no-affection. Otherwise, idk . Maybe my game glitched.

The only one I could see any negative effect on affection was Veronica. Because she was so often verbally abusive to the MC, and tried to alpha dom him, I wasn't feelin' dat, so by the end of week 2, I only had 16 affection with her and that wasn't enough for me to give her comforting words when she got completely graped/destroyed in Kathy's petty and vindictive spider/strapon climax revenge-fest. I felt bad about not being able to comfort her after, because by that time she'd actually been acting less like a prick and became a more sympathetic character.

Actually, I WAS constantly killing my affection with KATHLEEN, because she's just such a sadistic psychopathic b1tch, and anything you do nice for the Carnations brings her down. I specifically did a couple of borderline things (like actually played w/"wrapped birthday gift" Harper instead of letting her down out of the straps) just to make sure MC didn't bottom out K's affection and maybe get a bad end game over (I don't know if that is a thing; haven't really poured through the walkthrough).
 

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I don't think it's "telling" what happened with Rose's affection (unless Rose gets off on being abused, in which case she would not have got much of that from me), although it's interesting that you went there, immediately.
I was nice to her, and *nice* to her, and NICE to her, and NICE TO HER, and FVCKING NICE TO HER FFS, and her affection stayed zero until I was nice to her in the p0rn video she had to make, when it suddenly jumped 2 points. WTF.
Rosalind's affection for MC starts at 8. The only way for it to get to 0 is to take advantage of her at the start of the game (-10 relationship drop) and then not apologize to her afterwards. (this set of decisions effectively cuts off her route, because she won't want to seek out MC afterwards) So no, you were not *nice* to her by any stretch. That's why i "went there immediately".
 

Ummmh

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Unless the wording on that route was such that it was just doing the business of the club, I didn't go that route.

In fact, I tried two routes and I don't recall any difference in affection.

If that route is "abusive" it was pretty inobvious that it was. I actually tried to be as courteous with her as possible.

Last I checked, being professional and courteous was not something which is a sign of low character, tho I suppose people with heavily subjective biases might not understand that concept.

they probably should have made it clearer that you were being an a****** just doing the job you were asked to do, if that's the case.

Oh well.
 
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Last I checked, being professional and courteous was not something which is a sign of low character, tho I suppose people with heavily subjective biases might not understand that concept.

they probably should have made it clearer that you were being an a****** just doing the job you were asked to do, if that's the case.
The action in question which drops Rosalind's affection (choosing to have sex with her when you first meet her at the club and she informs you she was told to come here and have sex with one Mr.Erwin who would determine if she could join the club) is explicitly recognized by MC as taking advantage of her. There's nothing subjective, professional or courteous about it -- you are not club employee at this point, and, as MC notes, Chuck will accept MC's recommendation no matter how you choose to go about it.
 

TD1900

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You can tank Rosalind's affection early on rather easily, either during her first meeting (face fucking her and not apologizing), or by turning down her seduction during week 1. If you go the latter route (+no interview), according to one of our discord members who helped me test something, you can get like 15ish affection by the end of 4.4. Possibly a little more.

Not super high, but also not nothing.
 

TERES

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in different paths I have maximum Affection score (40) with all Carnations+Min-Hana as well as Kathleen :ROFLMAO: Ch4.Up3
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It's not about advertising that you've done something with the Carnations; it's that Kathleen or any patron with decent access to information resources could conceivably find things out. While it's POSSIBLE you could get away with/make job-related excuses for something, it would be a risk if patrons decide you rigged the game: could get explosive.

The problem is more prevelent if they caught you outright FVCKING one of the Carnations without Kathleen's explicit order, and that Carnation then does very well onstage.

I don't think it's "telling" what happened with Rose's affection (unless Rose gets off on being abused, in which case she would not have got much of that from me), although it's interesting that you went there, immediately.
I was nice to her, and *nice* to her, and NICE to her, and NICE TO HER, and FVCKING NICE TO HER FFS, and her affection stayed zero until I was nice to her in the p0rn video she had to make, when it suddenly jumped 2 points. WTF.
Unless she was looking to be abused by the MC idk what the problem was. I haven't done the walk through check so if she's masochistic that could explain the no-affection. Otherwise, idk . Maybe my game glitched.

The only one I could see any negative effect on affection was Veronica. Because she was so often verbally abusive to the MC, and tried to alpha dom him, I wasn't feelin' dat, so by the end of week 2, I only had 16 affection with her and that wasn't enough for me to give her comforting words when she got completely graped/destroyed in Kathy's petty and vindictive spider/strapon climax revenge-fest. I felt bad about not being able to comfort her after, because by that time she'd actually been acting less like a prick and became a more sympathetic character.

Actually, I WAS constantly killing my affection with KATHLEEN, because she's just such a sadistic psychopathic b1tch, and anything you do nice for the Carnations brings her down. I specifically did a couple of borderline things (like actually played w/"wrapped birthday gift" Harper instead of letting her down out of the straps) just to make sure MC didn't bottom out K's affection and maybe get a bad end game over (I don't know if that is a thing; haven't really poured through the walkthrough).
There is no censorship on words here, you can write cum - fuck - bitch or whatever you want. We're not on twitter, youtube or any other mainstream site.
 
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