VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Takkatakka]

The threesome with Rose IS the Club business;

Yeah...no. Pretty sure that Hana wouldn't accept that as being part of the club business. Neither are stuff like the fuck after the date with Veronica or after the evening with Felicia. All of those a clear violations of Hanna's stipulation and it would be very weird if she would see it any other way.

 

[ename144]

Yeah...no. Pretty sure that Hanna wouldn't accept that as being part of the club business. Neither are stuff like the fuck after the date with Veronica or after the evening with Felicia. All of those a clear violations of Hanna's stipulation and it would be very weird if she would see it any other way.

I agree about the others, but disagree about Rose. How would the MC get out of the threesome without effectively voiding the deal with Ian? Yeah, in a practical sense Ian would be willing to release the MC if we explained the situation to him, but the MC would still be left feeling like he ripped off his friend. That's why I view this situation differently than fucking Veronica or Felicia: sex was explicitly the key part of the arrangement from the get go, long before the MC's commitment to Hana.

But as I said, that explains why the threesome won't set a precedent for whether the MC keeps mentally noting his lack of fidelity. The question of whether Hana accepts this logic will be determined much more by how the MC handles it once she learns of the incident.

 

[Takkatakka]

How would the MC get out of the threesome without effectively voiding the deal with Ian?

I don't remember them setting up an actual contract (never mind the fact that you can get out of those if the circumstances change as well).

 

[ename144]

I don't remember them setting up an actual contract (never mind the fact that you can get out of those if the circumstances change as well).

Funny, I don't recall Hana drafting up a contract either.

 

[Takkatakka]

Funny, I don't recall Hana drafting up a contract either.

She doesn't have to. If she thinks Edwin cheated, that will be it.

 

[ename144]

She doesn't have to. If she thinks Edwin cheated, that will be it.

Right. And if she doesn't, it won't be.

 

[Takkatakka]

Right. And if she doesn't, it won't be.

She will though, having a threesome (with Ian of all people) would be utterly unacceptable for her...I mean...I guess TD could write it that way, but it really wouldn't be believable and it wouldn't fit her character.

 

[ename144]

She will though, having a threesome (with Ian of all people) would be utterly unacceptable for her...I mean...I guess TD could write it that way, but it really wouldn't be believable and it wouldn't fit her character.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. If Hana is looking for excuses to end the relationship she will find them, threesome or not. If she's interested in making it work, she'll at least listen to the MC's side before making any decisions at the first stumbling block.

 

[TD1900]

Edwin going along with the Rosalind threesome on the Hana GF path is a matter of two things:

1) How he perceives it to not be a violation of his promise to Hana.
2) Me not wanting to write a messy exit path that will complicate the boys' relationship for the small cross section of players that did the threesome path and then then GF'd up Hana. It's a hackish reasion, but I can't say that didn't factor into the choice of keeping things linear there.

Realistically, Hana would / will take umbrage about the situation; if not on a fidelity basis, than just how messed up Ian taking advantage of Rosalind's debt to have some "bro time" is and Edwin's lack of compunction going along with it. The thing is, that is an extension of Hana's problems with the club in a general, and a reflection of her own disappointment in herself for abiding it. Her getting mad at Edwin would be a form of self-loathing, even if she's not aware of it.

Food for thought: the whole "monogamy" thing is a tenuous stipulation to begin with, and even if Edwin keeps to it, both acknowledged that it still may not work out. Saying you're okay with your boyfriend fucking whores for work may sound good in the moment, sound like a logical concession given their reality, but when you witness it, or feelings develop deeper... who knows. Feelings are messy and relationships aren't build on logic. On the flip side, it could work out; they have a rather unique connection, in the midst of volatile situation, and player choice will factor into how their relationship progresses.

Also, some hack is controlling their lives like a puppet

 

[Turret]

She will though, having a threesome (with Ian of all people) would be utterly unacceptable for her...I mean...I guess TD could write it that way, but it really wouldn't be believable and it wouldn't fit her character.

And here comes in the different ways we can play the game. Depending on our decisions during the game it is possible for Ian and Hana to develop "an understanding". They won´t be big friends, but Ian can score some brownie points with Hana. In the current update we can see a bit of this. So I doubt that the threesome would be unacceptable to Hana on these paths.

 

[Takkatakka]

So I doubt that the threesome would be unacceptable to Hana on these paths.

Yeah sure...

I mean...we will see...in the end this isn't real life anyway and if TD wants to make it work, he'll find a way. I would still find it very odd.

 

[Idontplay]

Acually he has already started to pave the way for that threesome.

 

[pv7]

If shit hits the fan you can always change the variable and pretend MC dreamed of the threesome and because Ian loves him so much he had the same dream as well

 

[Turret]

Yeah sure...

I mean...we will see...in the end this isn't real life anyway and if TD wants to make it work, he'll find a way. I would still find it very odd.

The thing is that the keeping Rosi in the game is club business and if you chose Ian as the money lender/giver that is his price. This deal also predates Hana and MC becoming a full couple. Depending on how you play, Hana and Ian´s relationship thaws a bit.
So I can see how Hana could stomach this threesome as something of an exception, not to be repeated.
As I mentioned in another post, in my 3 canon playthrough varinats, this threesome is a non-factor since I used a different method to get rid of "just Oliver".

 

[Elduriel]

The thing is that the keeping Rosi in the game is club business and if you chose Ian as the money lender/giver that is his price. This deal also predates Hana and MC becoming a full couple. Depending on how you play, Hana and Ian´s relationship thaws a bit.
So I can see how Hana could stomach this threesome as something of an exception, not to be repeated.
As I mentioned in another post, in my 3 canon playthrough varinats, this threesome is a non-factor since I used a different method to get rid of "just Oliver".

I just ask Ian on the Hana FWB path, and Felicia on the GF path, problem solved. Multiple saves, who thinks of that, amirite?

 

[Turret]

I just ask Ian on the Hana FWB path, and Felicia on the GF path, problem solved. Multiple saves, who thinks of that, amirite?

As I wrote, I have three personal canon playthroughs. One with Hana GF, one with Felicia GF (I think after this update it is clear that Feli is your girlfriend if played towards it) and one with Sophia GF (hopefully we get her as a late entry LI /GF, since she is a great fit for several variants of Edwin). In all cases I chose August, which was very interesting how it played out. "Just Oliver" made a big mistake.

 

[Ungawa]

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[caj365]

Not directly related to the gameplay itself, but does anyone have screenshots or something similar of Edwin’s apartment?

I’m looking to rent a new place soon and honestly really liked the look/layout of his space when I played thru lol. My PC is in storage so I can’t scrub through images.

 

[Monicafox]

Wow just discovered this game and its amazing. So far my top favourite together with Project Myriam. Keep up the good work devs, love what you are doing.

 

[Elduriel]

for fucks sake again with the the ntr