Wooloomooloo

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Lately, I'm picturing an ending where Edwin and Hana mine and make blow up the whole Club building with the Old Hag, Uncle Chuck, Old Pimp August and Warren in it.

Then they get on her bike and they ride away into the sunset.
Interesting, only in my version the bike is a slightly more traditional chopper, black, and Mina is driving. Uhhh... wait, why does she have a handlebar mustache and when did this turn into a nightmare?!?
 

Randomguy3478

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Here we have a perfect example of how different our viewpoints can be!

"Elias is free to choose not to entertain each and every whim of his wife." That is correct but you overlook here that saving her school is not just an everyday whim of Felicia. She begged Elias to save the school and made it very clear how important this place is for her. Elias could have saved the school with ease, even getting great PR with it. And more, he would have gained Felicia´s thanks and full loyalty. She would never have gone to PC. But Elias did not save the school.

"That is not the same as intentionally destroying and humiliating one's spouse in the social circle." While hardly a nice move by Felicia, the humiliation of Elias in the social circle is currently near zero. The vast majority of the PC patrons are rivals of Elias and/or disliked him well before Feli came to PC. This was actually one reason Felicia came to PC, it was outside of Elias´normal social circle. So currently Elias suffers zero problems in his social circle.
Indeed. Still nice to have a friendly discussion even if one is unable to understand each others view.

To not be misunderstood: I'm not saying elias is a good husband. The game probably even paints it as him not saving the school to spite her. Its long since I played it. Just saying that on my moral compass there is still a big step between denying someone a wish and actively humiliating one's spouse in front of his peers.

Elias should have fel's full loyalty by marrying her. Its not the husbands job to go extra miles for his wife to be loyal. (Again, not talking about the potential agreement to extramarital sex.) "Happy wife happy life" is modern madness.

Rivals are social circle, no? Maybe wrong word from me then. Think peers.

How is Felicia seen as the corruptor when being on the threesome path from the start requires Mina cheating on Ian with MC?

That would suggest MC and Mina are the horrible ones.
They are, but the subject was fel. And still, its her who pushed her further towards corruption - playing the devil on the shoulder.

I mean its a porn game, who cares, but if we talk about the girls being good/bad...
 

Randomguy3478

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This game is a perfect mirror of those who play it.

I really mean no disrespect, but if you look at what happens at the club in-game, and your only thought is "eh, women are manipulating whores", I'd say your view of the world - the real world - is *slightly* skewed.
Just honing in on the aspect that gets whitewashed - also in the real world.

The only good being in PC is Edwins watch. lel
 

Jacowboy

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When do you guys think the next update will come out? I'm cautiously optimistic for a mid September- late October release, but I wouldn't be surprised by a December- February date. The update was excellent as always, and the production value is astronomical, but I hope the game doesn't reach Being a DIK levels of bloat.
it won't reach BaDIK levels, there's way less stuff in this game to complicate it. No minigames, no phone, no overdone free-roam etc... also less story branching.
They seem to be taking around 6 to 7 months at this point.

Also, the usual problem with AVNs, in terms of the amount of time it takes to update, is the render and animations queues... I think people falsely believe BaDIK takes a year because of mini-games and freeroams... it doesn't, if anything BaDIK's bloat right now is in DPC's insistance on making 60fps animations (which obviously doubles the amount of time needed per animation), which is retarded, but anyhow, that's not the case of PC, fortunately.
 

Dimitri57

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Elias should have fel's full loyalty by marrying her. Its not the husbands job to go extra miles for his wife to be loyal. (Again, not talking about the potential agreement to extramarital sex.) "Happy wife happy life" is modern madness.
Yeah this "modern madness" of treating wives like humans as gotten out of hand... :unsure:

What happened to the good olde days when the wife was the "property" of the husband?

A loyal wife would walk ten steps behind her husband without being told.

A chaste wife would thank her husband for being beaten every Friday whether she had done anything wrong or not... :cry:
 

Bill Temple

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I meant development time. I know as the game gets better, it will take more time for updates to come out. I just hope we don't get one update per year schedule, as thst would be excruciating for a game of this quality, as I'm already hooked.
Oh, gotcha. Even though PC isn't a ludicrous spiderweb of branching plotlines, any VN with choices that vary the scenes we see will get wider as the story matures. So the update periods have to get longer or the updates have to get shorter on any particular path to maintain the same "area under the curve", unless we help the boys increase that area. Assuming CG work is the rate-limiting factor, I guess we could hire GIL a full-time live-in masseuse/maid/sexretary to take care of all his needs so he only stops working for sleep. If his wife objects, I guess we let Randomguy3478 reprogram her give them marriage counseling.
 

Xythurr

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You started the personal attacks first just because I disagreed with you about you calling Felicia “evil” by calling anyone who disagreed with you a white knight, then you and your toady friend started insulting me personally, so I responded in kind. I never even said she wasn’t a shitty person, but I guess because I wasn’t kissing your ass you started being a dick to me. You’re a lying hypocrite.
Quote where I attacked you personally. I never once called anyone a white knight kid. You are behaving like a lying petulant child so that's how I'm going to refer to you from now on.

EDIT: In fact congratulations on being the SECOND person I've ever put on the ignore list. That's quite a feat to make me do that as it has been an illustrious list of one for years.
 
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Updated

https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-car...ovements-cheat-mod-vch4up4-shawnchapp.201421/



Change logs:

  • Added more cheats and a stats screen (pics below), Cheats can be disabled in mod settings
  • Added 2 more "mod option" to do multi scenes (both in prologue one in the disco and one at the end of the prologue)
  • Fixed bug in prologue


Hope the stats screen turned out how people like it took a lot longer then i thought it would to get just right and its still not 100% or i wanted it (maybe when i get better at coding i can get to where i want it first time playing with viewports)

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ProtoJoto

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An excellent update, PC remains the most erotic game on the site, IMHO.

Now that our little kitten Mina knows that Hana tends bar at the same mysterious place that the MC works, it is a forgone conclusion that curiosity will drive her to investigate and discover the secret. Perhaps Hana will hire her to help out with the bar, bringing the stray into the fold with the rest of the cast.

What further chaos can Kathleen sew? I will go out on a limb and predict that both Victoria and Grace receive invitations to the final exhibition.
 

Nightguy1

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Felecia is a shit person she got up on the alter and lied to Elias and her family/kids just because the dude had money now she is stewing in her unfulfilled life . If it wasnt the school she would find some other thing he didn't do to please her eventually so she could have justification in employing whatever means to release herself from whatever dependancy she has on him. Elias was smart enough to have a pre nup and she was dumb enough to agree to it if not for that she would have run off with his money eventually saved school or no.

One of the great things about Pale Carnations is there are no idealised women or men in it everyone has faults and no its not just the evil old men taking advantage of all the innocent maidens. Pretty much every interaction with a carnation there is a reminder to Edwin that if given the opportunity any of those beautiful faces and pleasant demeanours would take him for a real ride if he were to be careless.
 

Ottoeight

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Now that our little kitten Mina knows that Hana tends bar at the same mysterious place that the MC works
Now what? she knows since the very first moment she met Hana.

Let's just drop what you wrote about Victoria and Ian's mom.



Felecia is a shit person she got up on the alter and lied to Elias and her family/kids just because the dude had money now she is stewing in her unfulfilled life . If it wasnt the school she would find some other thing he didn't do to please her eventually so she could have justification in employing whatever means to release herself from whatever dependancy she has on him. Elias was smart enough to have a pre nup and she was dumb enough to agree to it if not for that she would have run off with his money eventually saved school or no.

One of the great things about Pale Carnations is there are no idealised women or men in it everyone has faults and no its not just the evil old men taking advantage of all the innocent maidens. Pretty much every interaction with a carnation there is a reminder to Edwin that if given the opportunity any of those beautiful faces and pleasant demeanours would take him for a real ride if he were to be careless.
We players should always remember that our Edwin hero has got some loose screws.
 

Shawnchapp

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She would never have gone to PC. But Elias did not save the school.
Thats a huge leap on your part.. for all you know lets say he did save the school who knows maybe next Saturday she really wants a painting and he doesn't get it so she pull the same thing

also the vibe im getting from your post is "i must bribe my wife with spending loads of money so shes loyal"

Thats not how a marriage works, it sucks he didn't save the school sure but from a business standpoint it makes sense why he didn't it would be a lost cause sure he can bail it out of financial problems RN but what about next month? or the month after that? is he expect to run this school for the rest of his life and losing money on it everyday it operates? just in the hopes his wife stays "loyal" i'm sorry if i was ever in a marriage were my thought was "dam i better buy this or my wife will cheat on me" no wait i wouldn't marry someone that would give me those red flags to begin with.

Girls like Fei are nice to fuck, but not the girl you bring home for dinner to meet the parents

oh and thats not say her husband is a "saint" he's clearly the typical rich asshole but thats besides the point.
 

Ottoeight

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Thats a huge leap on your part.. for all you know lets say he did save the school who knows maybe next Saturday she really wants a painting and he doesn't get it so she pull the same thing

also the vibe im getting from your post is "i must bribe my wife with spending loads of money so shes loyal"

Thats not how a marriage works, it sucks he didn't save the school sure but from a business standpoint it makes sense why he didn't it would be a lost cause sure he can bail it out of financial problems RN but what about next month? or the month after that? is he expect to run this school for the rest of his life and losing money on it everyday it operates? just in the hopes his wife stays "loyal" i'm sorry if i was ever in a marriage were my thought was "dam i better buy this or my wife will cheat on me" no wait i wouldn't marry someone that would give me those red flags to begin with.

Girls like Fei are nice to fuck, but not the girl you bring home for dinner to meet the parents

oh and thats not say her husband is a "saint" he's clearly the typical rich asshole but thats besides the point.
She is a trophy wife. He married her just because she is and she has always been what she is: a trophy. And he has always been 100% aware of it: that's why she signed a prenuptial agreement which tells she can't have children (I don't think this clause would be legal in real life, anyway).

And remember what she says: what she asked him about the school was the only thing she ever asked for herself only. Her glamorous and luxury life is for him and about him, because she must show that she is the wife of a very important, wealthy, classy and rich man.
 

Turret

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Thats a huge leap on your part.. for all you know lets say he did save the school who knows maybe next Saturday she really wants a painting and he doesn't get it so she pull the same thing

also the vibe im getting from your post is "i must bribe my wife with spending loads of money so shes loyal"

Thats not how a marriage works, it sucks he didn't save the school sure but from a business standpoint it makes sense why he didn't it would be a lost cause sure he can bail it out of financial problems RN but what about next month? or the month after that? is he expect to run this school for the rest of his life and losing money on it everyday it operates? just in the hopes his wife stays "loyal" i'm sorry if i was ever in a marriage were my thought was "dam i better buy this or my wife will cheat on me" no wait i wouldn't marry someone that would give me those red flags to begin with.
That is not a huge leap on my part, because of how Felicia is depicted in the game and what we can learn about the situation.
Your theories about "the painting" and stuff about bribing your wife are clear apples-oranges comparisons, pardon me, because they seem to be made in deliberate bad faith.

Felicia is depicted in the game as a loyal person in general. Kath for instance is shocked when she learns that Feli keeps regular contact with her family back home. Kat had counted on Feli being a sellout on account of her being a golddigger from the Hinterland, but that she is not.
It was made clear in the game how extremly important this school is for Felicia and it is not(!) a "painting of the week" for her. Secondly, you can also learn in the game that saving the school was the first and only time Felicia asked Elias something for herself.
It is also made clear that Elias is so rich that saving the school might use quite a sum of money, but one he would hardly feel ar all. In addition saving the school would give him a lot of great PR as a humanitarian.
 
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