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Not sure if my mind in completely blanking out right now but...who is Grace? I mean there are a ton of minor and side characters like Dalia, Nicolette, Harper, Sophia, etc. etc. but the name Grace rings zero bells and her name does not come up a single time in the game's guide at all.
Killian's Mother there is picture when she shows up in MC dream or he thinks about her but its not in the gallery because its not a scene its like flashback or something!
 

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I think, or rather, I hope it's Andrea, best house girl :love:, and iirc TD mentioned her being his favorite one. So I'd say she has a decent shot at being the lucky side girl. :unsure:
eh, could be, I can get along with that
plus IIRC one of the recent previews actually featured Andrea, so that also corroborates your theory

or Sofia perhaps, everything kinda points towards the fact that she's going to be fucking obliterated somewhere along the road.
 
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dolfe67

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burn it?

i thought thats the point of the trait
And what about those who don't have that trait? The traits don't affect the story that much, until now it changed very little elements and it'll stay like that imo.

If he burn the club, he'd have to go on the run not to be killed by the club owners as he would be the first suspect. Didn't you get what happened to his predecessor for less than that?
 

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The only way to burn that club, without face the conseguences, is literally burn down the entire club with all its owners, employees, guests inside, flee where nobody know you, change name, face, kill everybody helped you in that and flee again in another place.
 
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ename144

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Not only would shutting it down be harder than leaving but shutting it down could also go "badly" for almost everyone involved even if it's kept hidden and no law enforcement is involved. The house girls would probably still be house girls just having to do it in "worse" (August's gangster buddy) places, the carnations are back at the start at best and things could go poorly for all of them should law enforcement get involved, even if they don't get in legal trouble Rose daughter could find out and mess up their relationship, Elias has actionable dirt on felica, Veronica struggling gym is unlikely to survive after a "sex scandal" breaks. Hell you could even argue Hana gets screwed over as without August (dead, jailed, on the run) her mother is not going to be getting much if any health care.

I guess Mina makes it out more or less okay other than basically every single one of her friends or people that have helped shaped her as an adult being involved in a secret sex club and not telling her :HideThePain:
The way I see it, the avalanche has already started. Kathleen is planning to rock the Club to its core as part of whatever her scheme is, so the Club is changing one way or the other. The MC's only vote is to nudge things in a particular direction by pushing in the right place at the right time. That could have a wide range of possible outcomes, from new leadership to a new 'business' model all the way to shuttering the Club entirely, but things will not remain as they have been.

Assuming the Club survives this upcoming crisis in one form or another, presumably we will also have a choice about whether the MC stays for the long haul or leaves once the drama is over, but I definitely think there could be ways for the MC could burn the Club down (literally or figuratively) and get away with it during the confusion.
 
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And what about those who don't have that trait? The traits don't affect the story that much, until now it changed very little elements and it'll stay like that imo.

If he burn the club, he'd have to go on the run not to be killed by the club owners as he would be the first suspect. Didn't you get what happened to his predecessor for less than that?
then those players don't get to burn the club? there are other ways to do things if multiple endings is the aim.

i don't remember whether i read it here or in some other place but i read that either gil or td or both like or took inspiration from Starless. And in Starless the protagonist can run away from the mansion in some routes, and stay in the mansion in some other routes. So i'm guessing the end of pale carnation would have burn the club, run the club, or simply end the tenure with not much fanfare as three of the possible endings.

i don't think a mad Hana would have the same ending with a chill Hana and i hope a bro relationship Edwin-Ian would lead to a different ending with Edwin that doesn't have good relation with Ian.

I do think burning would be one of the option leading to the ending though imo
 

ArsenHumby

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No, it's not.

Sometimes we do two weeks if GIL doesn't have any bonus images on the back burner, but three weeks is pretty typical.

Dev diary -> Preview Image -> Bonus Art -> Dev diary, and so on.
I get it, i thought it was bi-weekly looking at the last one, my bad
 

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The way I see it, the avalanche has already started. Kathleen is planning to rock the Club to its core as part of whatever her scheme is, so the Club is changing one way or the other. The MC's only vote is to nudge things in a particular direction by pushing in the right place at the right time. That could have a wide range of possible outcomes, from new leadership to a new 'business' model all the way to shuttering the Club entirely, but things will not remain as they have been.

Assuming the Club survives this upcoming crisis in one form or another, presumably we will also have a choice about whether the MC stays for the long haul or leaves once the drama is over, but I definitely think there could be ways for the MC could burn the Club down (literally or figuratively) and get away with it during the confusion.
I mean there could be an ending where he "burns down the club"....but gets away with it? That I doubt... and for sure he won't get away with it and then have a happy ending with anybody who has been involved with it at all.... like would nobody think to go check with Edwin's mom after he disappears after a fire? Not his best friend Ian, or his "mentor" Chuck? Not his potential girlfriend or her gansgter dad that employed him? Do they all just assume he died in the fire? Or does literally anybody who has ties to the illegal sex club (even people Edwin likes) die in the fire?

I think sticky fingers is more likely to get us to a "shut the club down and get away with it ending" maybe by stealing some of the (likely) illegal experimental drugs that Kath is using to experiment on unwilling or uninformed humans? But like dolfe67 said I don't think the traits (even Firestarter) will be used ONLY to get an exclusive ending (one that most people could see as potentially the "correct" choice).

Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait! :HideThePain:
 

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eh, could be, I can get along with that
plus IIRC one of the recent previews actually featured Andrea, so that also corroborates your theory

or Sofia perhaps, everything kinda points towards the fact that she's going to be fucking obliterated somewhere along the road.
I don't think Sofia would be considered a random "side girl" by now, with how many people want her to get a scene, whenever that is going to happen, I think the devs will make more hype around it, instead of keeping it secret, tho who knows. I fully agree she's going to get obliterated at some point tho, and I can't fucking wait for it :love:.

Also yea, I'm like 99% sure Andrea is the lucky gal, might just be the thing I'm the most hypped about next update now, tho we still don't know if it was a big scene or just a small one. :unsure:
 

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I don't think Sofia would be considered a random "side girl" by now, with how many people want her to get a scene, whenever that is going to happen, I think the devs will make more hype around it, instead of keeping it secret, tho who knows. I fully agree she's going to get obliterated at some point tho, and I can't fucking wait for it :love:.
"how many people" my ass.

As far as I can remember there was a single dude who started a crusade on her behalf.
 

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Hopefully Edwin can give her his undivided attention. I am starving for a full Kat scene since, I don´t know, the birthday gift in week 2?
Is that what the "gift" led to, a scene with Kat? I'm even more glad I rejected it now. I initially did it to save the poor girl Kat had hanging from the ceiling, but if it also meant avoiding Kat getting any pleasure out of it that's even better.
The way I see it, the avalanche has already started. Kathleen is planning to rock the Club to its core as part of whatever her scheme is, so the Club is changing one way or the other. The MC's only vote is to nudge things in a particular direction by pushing in the right place at the right time. That could have a wide range of possible outcomes, from new leadership to a new 'business' model all the way to shuttering the Club entirely, but things will not remain as they have been.

Assuming the Club survives this upcoming crisis in one form or another, presumably we will also have a choice about whether the MC stays for the long haul or leaves once the drama is over, but I definitely think there could be ways for the MC could burn the Club down (literally or figuratively) and get away with it during the confusion.
Really looking forward to seeing how this goes. I'm hoping that the MC will have a hand in influencing the outcome of what Kat is planning so that it blows up in her face. Be even better if Chuck somehow gets dragged down with her; perhaps through a connection with the scientist and his "assistant".
Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait! :HideThePain:
If it means they get to set something of Kat's on fire, then I'm all for it.
 

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I mean there could be an ending where he "burns down the club"....but gets away with it? That I doubt... and for sure he won't get away with it and then have a happy ending with anybody who has been involved with it at all.... like would nobody think to go check with Edwin's mom after he disappears after a fire? Not his best friend Ian, or his "mentor" Chuck? Not his potential girlfriend or her gansgter dad that employed him? Do they all just assume he died in the fire? Or does literally anybody who has ties to the illegal sex club (even people Edwin likes) die in the fire?

I think sticky fingers is more likely to get us to a "shut the club down and get away with it ending" maybe by stealing some of the (likely) illegal experimental drugs that Kath is using to experiment on unwilling or uninformed humans? But like dolfe67 said I don't think the traits (even Firestarter) will be used ONLY to get an exclusive ending (one that most people could see as potentially the "correct" choice).

Maybe the recently completed Kath scene is TD new favorite because they finally got an excuse to use the Firestarter trait! :HideThePain:
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. The MC won't be blamed for destroying the Club because it will have very nearly disintegrated all on it's own thanks to Kathleen's nuclear gambit. We'll likely have opportunities to influence how the carnage plays out by siding with different factions at various opportunities, but to the outside observer the MC will very much look like the little fish rather than the main instigator.

Unless we make a direct bid to control things ourselves, of course; presumably that will be a possibility, but I doubt the MC would try such a thing if all he wants to do is shut the whole thing down immediately afterwards.
 
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I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. The MC won't be blamed for destroying the Club because it will have very nearly disintegrated all on it's own thanks to Kathleen's nuclear gambit. We'll likely have opportunities to influence how the carnage plays out by siding with different factions at various opportunities, but to the outside observer the MC will very much look like the little fish rather than the main instigator.

Unless we make a direct bid to control things ourselves, of course; presumably that will be a possibility, but I doubt the MC would try such a thing if all he wants to do is shut the whole thing down immediately afterwards.
I think we have a diffrent view on what Kats gambit is/will mean. IIRC she says that she's going to be risking everything to Edwin but I took that as a "if I get caught I'll be voted out/removed" rather than "if this goes wrong somehow the club will literally burn down".

Would you mind sharing any idea about what you think her gambit could be? Not even detailed but moreso just in scope because I struggle to think of anything she can do that would risk the "whole club" instead of her personally while still logically serving her goals.

Even an outlandish and silly plan like kathleen killing both Chuck and August on stage during the finale doesn't really cause enough panic/distraction for Edwin?

Edit: The drugs she's been testing with Van Doren seem like the obvious choice for the gambit but that again doesn't really "burn the Club down" or even change anything other than people will be more aroused lol.
 

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Dev Diary 81

TD here, coming off the top rope with a dev diary.

Currently Ch4Up5 sits at 2,091 statics, 61 animatons, and 39,152 words.

That means 226 statics, 10 animations, and 4,873 words have been added to the project since the last report.

Things are wrapping up with the big Kathleen scene for this update. The image work might be finished today or should be finished tomorrow. Either way, we'll be breaking ground on the big multi-character event that will be the final feather in the update's cap.

In other news, I've taken to learning some rudimentary video editing so that we can better integrate sound into our scenes. It's been a lot of fun! That's part of my love of developing an AVN; it asks a lot of different things from you and learning is its reward. But yeah... expect some nasty noises from our work with Kat.

Welp, I'll end it here.

Thank you so much for your interest and support.
 
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