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Ottoeight

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Makes you wonder, what actually happened in the first place. Grace trying to extort Vicky and Vicky rather biting the bullet than getting extorted, I guess? If that is the case than Grace's plan backfired spectacularly.
Backfired...?

I would not be so sure. Remember what Chuck tells about his sister? even though he often disagrees with Grace, his little sister is his little sister. Grace is now Vic & Edwin's deadliest threat, no matter what Ian thinks about his mother.

Vic is the most important person in the world for our Edwin - I daresay she is the Only Thing that really matters in his life - and Grace & Ian are the only people in the world that matter for Chuck.




Than again...the fact that it was never explicitly stated what Vicky did and is so worried about outside of what Edwin ASSUMES it is about. So could it be that there is a second skeleton in Vicky's closet and it is about something different than her porn career? Is there a chance that Chuck is his dad or something and that the actual reason he wants to support him, just like his nephew? Or do I read too much into it? :HideThePain:
I daresay your theory is as crazy as the craziest BaDIK thread theories.:whistle:


BTW, I'm still grinning while thinking about our bros who were fantasizing about steamy sex between Edwin and Ian's mother - my little prediction is that Sophia's aficionados are next in line for their treat. :sneaky:
 

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Backfired...?

I would not be so sure. Remember what Chuck tells about his sister? even though he often disagrees with Grace, his little sister is his little sister. Grace is now Vic & Edwin's deadliest threat, no matter what Ian thinks about his mother.

Vic is the most important person in the world for our Edwin - I daresay she is the Only Thing that really matters in his life - and Grace & Ian are the only people in the world that matter for Chuck.

What threat? She seems to have tried to force Vicky to speak with Ian about going to college or she would tell Edwin and Ian about Vicky's past. But instead Vicky did that herself, bereaving Grace of her means to pressure Vicky to do anything, while also laying Grace's scheme open to Ian which will only lead to him despising Grace even more. I would call that a backfire.

And Chuck is openly undermining Grace's wishes by enabling Ian to live how he does. If anything he would be angry at her for trying to pressure Ian.


I daresay your theory is as crazy as the craziest BaDIK thread theories.:whistle:


BTW, I'm still grinning while thinking about our bros who were fantasizing about steamy sex between Edwin and Ian's mother - my little prediction is that Sophia's aficionados are next in line for their treat. :sneaky:
Well, we'll see... :HideThePain:
 

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What threat? She seems to have tried to force Vicky to speak with Ian about going to college or she would tell Edwin and Ian about Vicky's past. But instead Vicky did that herself, bereaving Grace of her means to pressure Vicky to do anything, while also laying Grace's scheme open to Ian which will only lead to him despising Grace even more. I would call that a backfire.

And Chuck is openly undermining Grace's wishes by enabling Ian to live how he does. If anything he would be angry at her for trying to pressure Ian.
BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...

and most of all, if Victoria decided to talk to Edwin about her past instead of doing what Grace demanded... well, telling her: "go and tell Ian that he should go to college" wasn't definitely what she told her to do, I guess.
If Vic got drunk and decided to speak with Edwin "about that", well... I guess Grace really cornered her and threatened and Vic frightened.
 

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Well, we'll see... :HideThePain:
Nah, it's certain that Chuck isn't Edwin's father because TD isn't a hack writer (despite him saying otherwise). This wouldn't make any sense for several reasons. Why would Chuck not tell Edwin that he is his father? Why wouldn't Victoria tell him this but instead say:

"I remember Dr. Kohler. Wasn't he... uh... a bit... off?"
(...)
"She seemed like she wanted to say more, but thought better of it."

I also believe that Abel wouldn't break in or even approach Edwin knowing that and I'm pretty sure he did an extensive background check on Edwin and Chuck (and checking for DNA in a brothel where Chuck and Edwin leave plenty of it would be super easy).
 

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I was replaying game for 5th times to get different saves (Rosalind full deal, because in my all other saves she is friend or main interest, now I angry with her) and found this. Is this The Judge from Ace Attorney? Husband of Kathleen. Final update will be battle in court xD Also game is full of details. Even when reread game you always found something new like mention of italian classic cinema Suspiria.
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Sorry, don't see any resemblance at all. Objection overruled.


In the confines of this particular pool of sims-like degenerates, he is. Hope she gives him a chance (luck favors the bold).

That being said, I hope there's a bit less lovey-dovey stuff in the next update. Not that I appreciate it but I think everyone who's not directly involved in our MC's private sex adventures should have additional scenes of naughtiness. I like that he's the center of attention and great mediator but I also like to watch them fall into the abyss. I've become a kind of kiss Kathleen's boots and slap her afterwards kinda guy instead and that's not what the game's focus should be on.

The only real criticism of this power fantasy are the tits though. Wish there was more diversity. I know, madness.
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I understand that not all huge ones are that way but...

I am NOT complaining because there's Dommy Mommy kink, goth kink, and bubbly girl kink right there in X Large fashion. Now to just wait for public release...
 

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Hey guys, still haven't played the update because I'm waiting for a walkthough for such a complex game.

Is there any scene exclusive to Hana girlfriend (not fuckbuddies) path in this update?
 

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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:

So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.

BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...
No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.

Is there a way to get the old font back? The new font text is too small for me. Even on 27 inch monitor.
Yeah, you can use Shift+A to change the size and the font itself (to DejaVu) or you can do more:
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15707306
 
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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:
Yes I also thought about it during that scene, Victoria spoke with full knowledge of the facts :sneaky:
 

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BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...

and most of all, if Victoria decided to talk to Edwin about her past instead of doing what Grace demanded... well, telling her: "go and tell Ian that he should go to college" wasn't definitely what she told her to do, I guess.
If Vic got drunk and decided to speak with Edwin "about that", well... I guess Grace really cornered her and threatened and Vic frightened.
So what would Grace want her to do in the first place that at the same time would prompt her to tell Edwin about her past? That doesn't make sense...

Also Vicky tried to notch Grace to be more open to what Ian wants to do and give him space. That was obviously not what Grace was after and when she realized her talk with Vicky was getting her nowhere, she seems to start to resort to extortion. Like "if you don't do what you can to get Ian to go to college, I'll tell your son and Ian what you did!" or something along those lines. That is how I understood it at least.


BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:

So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.


No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.


Yeah, you can use Shift+A to change the size and the font itself (to DejaVu) or you can do more:
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15707306
I mean...I had my "Vicky and Ian secretly have an affair" theory not for entirely nothing. :HideThePain:
 

Ottoeight

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So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.
This is more delusional than hoping in a romantic love story between Edwin and Sophia.

Should I remind you that the story will end on week 4, saturday night?



No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.
So, she can

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She was totally in despair in that scene, bro.
 
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ffive

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I am interested in Fel but not when Mina is involved so I had chosen not to see the threesome scene between them. Do they all enter a relationship or hint at one after that scene?
Edwin makes a vague reference to events of previous night to tease Mina a little when they're all gathered in the private room, but that's all. There's not really any real reason for this arrangement to end up in a relationship, given Felicia has her own priorities outside of her dedicated romance path.
 

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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"
It's not exactly weird. Victoria recognizes that Grace could've used that (Edwin's former crush) as leverage in her attempt to make Edwin do her bidding, something Grace actually did by promising Edwin "anything". Edwin has told Victoria about Grace's request so that's Victoria's way of bringing this subject up rather than beat around the bush.

And jumping from this to the idea that there will be double-incest foursome is indeed Sophia-pining mad. :whistle:
 
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