VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Alfius]

Felecia is a shit person she got up on the alter and lied to Elias and her family/kids just because the dude had money now she is stewing in her unfulfilled life . If it wasnt the school she would find some other thing he didn't do to please her eventually so she could have justification in employing whatever means to release herself from whatever dependancy she has on him. Elias was smart enough to have a pre nup and she was dumb enough to agree to it if not for that she would have run off with his money eventually saved school or no.

One of the great things about Pale Carnations is there are no idealised women or men in it everyone has faults and no its not just the evil old men taking advantage of all the innocent maidens. Pretty much every interaction with a carnation there is a reminder to Edwin that if given the opportunity any of those beautiful faces and pleasant demeanours would take him for a real ride if he were to be careless.

Nah, Felicia is just about my favourite character.... except all the other girls as well.

The problem with this game, is that all the characters are just so damn good!

I just love Felicia - Her confidence and classy appearance and good friendship with Mina
Roselind - Is very similar to MC's mom.
Victoria - Man, she is just a cool bitch, I love her.
Hanah - Wild girl, with a cool personality
Mina = Is just a sweetheart.

 

[Ottoeight]

Maybe I don't remember correctly, but it seems to me that Felicia married Elias to escape from her family's poverty.

She had quite a few sugar daddies before him, bro. And being a person who works hard to make a living - that's what she said about her mother - DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE POOR.

Felicia is exactly what most game characters say she is: a social climber, a gold digger and an exhibionist.

She is the opposite of Kathleen.

 

[Dimitri57]

Whats your opinion on this years' new summer fashion?

Oh my. You don't have the capacity to understand sarcasm...

After reading your jaded opinion of women in your posts, I'm not surprised you'd have a photo like that.

Is it from your personal spank bank?

 

[dolfe67]

Nah, Felicia is just about my favourite character.... except all the other girls as well.

The problem with this game, is that all the characters are just so damn good!

I just love Felicia - Her confidence and classy appearance and good friendship with Mina
Roselind - Is very similar to MC's mom.
Victoria - Man, she is just a cool bitch, I love her.
Hanah - Wild girl, with a cool personality
Mina = Is just a sweetheart.

I think you mean Veronica, not Victoria (MC's mom)

 

[Idontplay]

She had quite a few sugar daddies before him, bro. And being a person who works hard to make a living - that's what she said about her mother - DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE POOR.

Felicia is exactly what most game characters say she is: a social climber, a gold digger and an exhibionist.

She is the opposite of Kathleen.

You can laugh how much you want, but in her conversation with Edwin, she stated se didn't want live anymore in the poverty in which was raised by her family. Obviously it is a subjective idea of poverty, the idea of poverty that only a goldi dgger can have, but this is what she said (probably with different words) and what your reply doesn't refute what I have written.

 

[TheRegvlator]

Holy fucking shit I just finished update 4 and that revelation at the end had me gasping for air. Has to be one of the best plot-twists (if you can call it that) I've experienced in a few good years, in any media, and I mean it - I tried to get a comparison/analogy and couldn't think of a single one to say it reminded of a similar experience with a show, game or movie - it was AWESOME.

The way the

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and then the shoe dropped. God damn,

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, that hag is a fucking monster.

 

[Nulldev]

God damn,

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, that hag is a fucking monster.

That's why we love her.

 

[TheRegvlator]

That's why we love her.

From a character admiration angle, absolutely. It's like watching the child of hybrid Hannibal Lecter, Frank Underwood and The Joker running around and doing shit, and this results in one of the best written vilains I've seen in any media in a good fuckin time. Aside from this angle though (writing/character development and creation), I hate her SO FUCKING MUCH.

 

[davicjoin]

Can someone share the save file that have the lasted scene of rosalind got gangbang

 

[Shawnchapp]

That is not a huge leap on my part, because of how Felicia is depicted in the game and what we can learn about the situation.

Whats depicted abut her from her own mouth she only married him for his money period! its also the only thing she really asked him for is because its something that would cost 100 of thousands of dollars the "black card" she has thet literally buys everything else she wants wouldn't cover that So no not really the "only thing" she "asked" for its just the only thing she need to ask for because the million of other items she buys she doesn't need to ask cause the card covers it

i get the school is important but thats doesn't me he should buy it, its made pretty dam clear even if he payed for the problem right now in a month or two the school will be right back where it is now, its not a one time thing he would have to buy it and keeping paying for it until he dies losing money on it every single day! Thatas not how you stay rich and lets say he did that but it took all his money because of it, Do you think Felish will stay with him? HELL NO she would leave the moment he lost his money because you keep forget shes a gold digger! She is only loyal to whoever pays for her the moment you stop paying she finds a new sugar daddy

This is what the game makes perfectly clear to us shes a gold digger only after money. and stop making the "school" thing like it would be 0% to fix thats not the cause if it was something as easy as throw a couple thusand at it, the asshole would've have just done it you're talkking about something that would cost MILLIONS in the long run i don't care how rich you are a lost cause like that can make you go bankrupt.



to be clear NEITHER of these people you would ever want to marry there both terrible people


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to make it very clear even if he gave her the world the moment he stopped buying her everything or being rich she would leave him. the game makes this very clear! she loyal to "money" not the people shes in relationship with.


the only girl that shows any love for the husband is Rose. even despite her husband by way worse then felish's She still is there for the "worst" of it,, thats someone you want by your side knowing if you're really down on your luck the person isn't just going to bounce to the next wallet person that walks by. (granted she becoming a real slut lately but she wasn't portrayed as that at the start so i mark that as of well its a porn game no shit she's going to become a slut for our MC)

 

[INno6280]

yo i have a question, lets say i have chap 4 update 3, how do i update the game to the current latest version?

 

[Shawnchapp]

yo i have a question, lets say i have chap 4 update 3, how do i update the game to the current latest version?

you don't you download the whole game agian

 

[Randomguy3478]

Oh my. You don't have the capacity to understand sarcasm...

After reading your jaded opinion of women in your posts, I'm not surprised you'd have a photo like that.

Is it from your personal spank bank?

Your name suggests you are from an area where young men are forced to kill and die. And if SHTF it would quickly be similar everywhere in the world. It's still fully normal that men die for women - be it war or sinking ships.

But you worry about women. Whose hardest lot on the globe is wearing a garment that impedes their ability to cheat on their husbands.

That is not a huge leap on my part, because of how Felicia is depicted in the game and what we can learn about the situation.
Your theories about "the painting" and stuff about bribing your wife are clear apples-oranges comparisons, pardon me, because they seem to be made in deliberate bad faith.

Felicia is depicted in the game as a loyal person in general. Kath for instance is shocked when she learns that Feli keeps regular contact with her family back home. Kat had counted on Feli being a sellout on account of her being a golddigger from the Hinterland, but that she is not.
It was made clear in the game how extremly important this school is for Felicia and it is not(!) a "painting of the week" for her. Secondly, you can also learn in the game that saving the school was the first and only time Felicia asked Elias something for herself.
It is also made clear that Elias is so rich that saving the school might use quite a sum of money, but one he would hardly feel ar all. In addition saving the school would give him a lot of great PR as a humanitarian.

Whats depicted abut her from her own mouth she only married him for his money period! its also the only thing she really asked him for is because its something that would cost 100 of thousands of dollars the "black card" she has thet literally buys everything else she wants wouldn't cover that So no not really the "only thing" she "asked" for its just the only thing she need to ask for because the million of other items she buys she doesn't need to ask cause the card covers it

i get the school is important but thats doesn't me he should buy it, its made pretty dam clear even if he payed for the problem right now in a month or two the school will be right back where it is now, its not a one time thing he would have to buy it and keeping paying for it until he dies losing money on it every single day! Thatas not how you stay rich and lets say he did that but it took all his money because of it, Do you think Felish will stay with him? HELL NO she would leave the moment he lost his money because you keep forget shes a gold digger! She is only loyal to whoever pays for her the moment you stop paying she finds a new sugar daddy

This is what the game makes perfectly clear to us shes a gold digger only after money. and stop making the "school" thing like it would be 0% to fix thats not the cause if it was something as easy as throw a couple thusand at it, the asshole would've have just done it you're talkking about something that would cost MILLIONS in the long run i don't care how rich you are a lost cause like that can make you go bankrupt.



to be clear NEITHER of these people you would ever want to marry there both terrible people


Edit:

to make it very clear even if he gave her the world the moment he stopped buying her everything or being rich she would leave him. the game makes this very clear! she loyal to "money" not the people shes in relationship with.


the only girl that shows any love for the husband is Rose. even despite her husband by way worse then felish's She still is there for the "worst" of it,, thats someone you want by your side knowing if you're really down on your luck the person isn't just going to bounce to the next wallet person that walks by. (granted she becoming a real slut lately but she wasn't portrayed as that at the start so i mark that as of well its a porn game no shit she's going to become a slut for our MC)

(I mean, lets forget that felicia is a fictional character and therefor may not always make 100% sense.)

If felicia was a real person the most likely thing is that she is just lying to us - and probably to herself as well - to feel like a better person than she is.

The school thing is just your typical brainfart women get if they get older and have no own children. If you buy the school, a year later its something else that their life's happiness depends on.

Just get 3 cats, felicia.

 

[Shawnchapp]

a year later its something else that their life's happiness depends on.

Thats kinda my point... its only a temp fix for "loyalty" until the next thing she rally wants/cares about

 

[Randomguy3478]

Thats kinda my point... its only a temp fix for "loyalty" until the next thing she rally wants/cares about

That anyone here defends to gangbang-prostitute because your husband didn't fulfill your wish is worrying.

Maybe modern men are in a worse state than modern women.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That anyone here defends to gangbang-prostitute because your husband didn't fulfill your wish is worrying.

Maybe modern men are in a worse state than modern women.

I mean what difference does it make? We can all see Elias doesn't care about Felicia, and Felicia doesn't care about Elias, so speaking about them taking cock or pussy by the foot in the context of a marriage seems tone-deaf. They're in an economic marriage, what relevance do their actions have on each other?

I'd feel much differently if Elias was some faithful doting husband while Fellatia was out fucking the town, but that's not my read from playing.

 

[Randomguy3478]

I mean what difference does it make? We can all see Elias doesn't care about Felicia, and Felicia doesn't care about Elias, so speaking about them taking cock or pussy by the foot in the context of a marriage seems tone-deaf. They're in an economic marriage, what relevance do their actions have on each other?

I'd feel much differently if Elias was some faithful doting husband while Fellatia was out fucking the town, but that's not my read from playing.

The marriage had 2 reasons:

- Respect and reputation for elias

- Wealthy life for felicia


Elias provides felicia the wealthy life, but he denied her one important wish.

Felicia absolutely obliterates elias reputation where it matters most for him - his peers.


So felicia not only destroys the one thing she provided in this marriage, but her actions bring elias' reputation lower than before he married her. It's the equivalent of elias first denying her wish, then divorcing her without giving her anything - and then robbing her of whatever money she had before meeting him.

Thats evil even in a marriage like theirs.



If she just had private sex I wouldn't care and consider it part of their marriage deal (if its true).

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

The marriage had 2 reasons:

- Respect and reputation for elias

- Wealthy life for felicia

We see their marriage as a fundamentally different transaction then.

- Sex and some companionship with a young hot woman for Elias

- Security and wealth for Felicia

I generally don't think of trophy wives getting wifed up to increase respect or reputation, they're where they are for companionship and sex.

 

[Randomguy3478]

We see their marriage as a fundamentally different transaction then.

- Sex and some companionship with a young hot woman for Elias

- Security and wealth for Felicia

I generally don't think of trophy wives getting wifed up to increase respect or reputation, they're where they are for companionship and sex.

I would think the concept of trophy wife is reputation and respect. Sex and companionship is a normal marriage, no? Although I fail to see why elias married felicia anyway with her history and all. Wouldn't be difficult for him to find a non-prostitute young hot woman with his wealth. Maybe it was because she was so transactional and that was more conveniant for him.

Do we know when they married?

Anyway, what I wrote before is why I see felicia as evil, even within their specific arrangement.

 

[Ungawa]

I would think the concept of trophy wife is reputation and respect. Sex and companionship is a normal marriage, no? Although I fail to see why elias married felicia anyway with her history and all. Wouldn't be difficult for him to find a non-prostitute young hot woman with his wealth. Maybe it was because she was so transactional and that was more conveniant for him.

Do we know when they married?

Anyway, what I wrote before is why I see felicia as evil, even within their specific arrangement.

I don't know why there's morality tied to Felicia choosing to marry up. She was born poor but sexy and intelligent. She has had a frat/party girl college years and hides her Southern Belle accent as much as possible. She thought that money would solve her problems then realized later on that the life of someone else's money wasn't going to help her with all her problems. There's a bit extra to her story that people forget. She's upper echelon. High class society. But she's not a bimbo. She's smarter than her sexy looks to realize a LOT of social faux pas and keep away from the ones that can harm her and friends.

And yes... Elias could find another woman. But remember the interview. He's transitioned from railroads to talent agencies and so far up his own backside that he'd have to look for another and with how Felicia can charm the rattle off a snake, it's highly likely he'd screw that up.