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Yeah she could do that out of resentment but she also knows it wont really help her build her relationship with her son any further in fact ian would probably even hate her for doing that you know like taking one of the few things that he cares about. Although i do agree about chuck but at the same time he also cares about Ian a lot and knows how important vicky was in Ian's life. And also chuck is the type of person who keeps this type of information to himself so that he could use it against someone later.
- Jan 14, 2019
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I'd say he's already cucked when they decided to make arguably the best girl in the game his best friends girlfriendThey just want to cuck Edwin. As if our lad needs more stress... as if we need more cuck games on F95...
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This is the pretty absurd "this woman that i like had sex with someone else before i even met her, and she stays in that relationship (for a few days) rather than immediately dump her guy and jump into my arms, therefore she cucked me" absurd level of expectations.I'd say he's already cucked when they decided to make arguably the best girl in the game his best friends girlfriend
- Mar 13, 2021
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By "he's already cucked" he meant "he has already cucked"
I may have missed it in all of the many, many posts, but there is one thing that strikes me about the Grace/Chuck/Victoria discussions:
It seems like everyone here assumes that we know what Grace is trying to use for leverage (and what Vic apparently attempted to drunk-confess to).
But we only know what Edwin knows.
Just because Vic did porn, it does not rule out that she may also have done other things she has kept hidden from Edwin. Could be anything, really, though if Chuck is involved, straight-up prostitution is an obvious candidate. Alternatively, those 4 early shoots before finding a "serious" studio could be of a kind that is seen as worse than what we have seen Edwin be aware of. I mean, Chuck is clearly no stranger to all sorts of perversions, so if he was involved there is no telling what was filmed.
I am not saying that I necessarily think there is more going on here. But it cannot be ruled out that the closet contains more skeletons than the ones Edwin has found.
It seems like everyone here assumes that we know what Grace is trying to use for leverage (and what Vic apparently attempted to drunk-confess to).
But we only know what Edwin knows.
Just because Vic did porn, it does not rule out that she may also have done other things she has kept hidden from Edwin. Could be anything, really, though if Chuck is involved, straight-up prostitution is an obvious candidate. Alternatively, those 4 early shoots before finding a "serious" studio could be of a kind that is seen as worse than what we have seen Edwin be aware of. I mean, Chuck is clearly no stranger to all sorts of perversions, so if he was involved there is no telling what was filmed.
I am not saying that I necessarily think there is more going on here. But it cannot be ruled out that the closet contains more skeletons than the ones Edwin has found.
If i'm not mistaken the very first video of Victoria we get to see in the prologue is from her "debut" i.e. the very first flick she's made, one of those 4.
- Jan 14, 2019
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No that's not what i meant. You can tell that she still has feelings for him if you went her route, plus the whole thing with the morality of her being your best friends former girlfriend. Idk maybe cucked is the wrong word for it.
True, it at least gives off the appearance of being, if not the first, then among the first. (Then again, I am fairly confident that there are a number of porn movies where participants claim it is their first when it is not.) That does not mean much though. For instance, here is a wild-ish scenario that still fits the facts as we(/Edwin) know them:
– Vic does a film or four. Perhaps they get progressively "worse", perhaps not.
– Chuck, with his perverted ear to the ground, finds out.
– He knows the guys, and knows it will go rapidly downhill from there; By the 6th movie, they are likely to bring in the dogs and donkeys, or whatever. Given the Ian connexion, he decides to intervene. Perhaps he even manages to bury something filmed but not yet released.
– Then, before setting Vic up with a more reputable studio to continue her newfound career, he claims a personal payment for his help and his silence.
– Then tells Grace about it. Could even include copies of those unreleased films. Now that would be some proper blackmail material.
Is that a likely scenario? That is an irrelevant question to the point I am making, namely that thus far our only source of information on Vic's past is what Edwin has dug out from the Internet. We have no way of knowing if that forms anywhere near a full picture.
And, for what it is worth, Victoria does not strike me as someone who would completely break down over her now adult son finding out she did some porn that, by today's standards, is fairly vanilla. Which is why I have this nagging feeling there is something else to the tale.
I don't think this sort of rationalization really works when it involves stuff like "my child has found out i've been doing porn flicks". Consider how strong visceral reaction Edwin gets simply from meeting a guy who has fucked his mother in most conventional way possible, and that's with Edwin only vaguely aware of this connection.
Regarding the "wild scenario", as far as we know Chuck wasn't in any way involved in Victoria's (own) decision to contact a more established studio. Neither Victoria nor Donovan mention anything like that, Donovan's studio is completely legal venture and it's not like you need references when you apply to work in porn flick.
I feel like this need to dig for "something even worse" is mostly a result of players getting desensitized to the idea Victoria was doing porn, over the course of the game i.e. literal years it took to make it. They may be very well as numb to it as Edwin at this point.
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- May 6, 2017
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Hana as "fuck buddies" and Mina as "casual lovers". Don't push Mina towards Veronica in this update. Go hang out with Mina by ignoring Roselind, Veronica, Felicia etc.
Bro forget Grace, the person I'm really worried about is Ian. I can only hope I have enough "bromance" points. He "reassured" us that nothing changes but now with Victoria not being a "pure" woman in his eyes, I have no idea how he's going to react. Even without his problematic views of women and relationships, this reveal would've been super tough for him given the pedestal he places her on.
Maybe that's what his Mina forgiveness plot is all about. Getting ahead of the curve and rehabilitating his personality so that the Vicky reveal doesn't horribly change things. In a scenario where we cheat with Mina and then ignore Ian (not enough bromance points), this Victoria reveal might be where he goes to the dark side.
- Sep 23, 2020
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Just checked out the new patch.
Ugh damn Grace pulled the bitch card. I'm a bit surprised she knows though.
Ian's reaction hinges on whether he's on introspection route by the looks of it. If it's on then he says that he's glad Edwin has told him, while off that route he says in the same spot that he wishes he didn't know. So... yeah, fairly sure this can go badly.
I hope you are right, for Vic's sake. Though it must also be noted that she has had a decade or so of dreading/preparing for the day Edwin (or someone else) comes across one of her flicks. Obviously, it could be that it has been long enough now that she has let herself believe it would remain a secret, and that that is what triggers her strong reaction. Or it could be something else yet to be revealed.
Up until a few [real-world] days ago, we had had no indication that Grace was aware. Nor Chuck, as far as I can recall (it has been a while since last I looked at the early chapters). The feeling I have is that the Club trio stick to their own turf for the most part. Kat knowing about the porn does not necessarily mean the other two do.
Yes, we have no indication he was involved. We also have no indication he was not. Absence of evidence vs evidence of absence, and all that jazz. And that is my whole point here. Please do not read too much – or preferably anything – into a scenario it took all of 30 seconds to cobble together. (Unless it turns out it was spot on, in which case you should hail me as a prophet…)
What we did learn from the conversation with Grace is that Chuck (and Grace) has known about the porn for years. And that Vic knew that he knew. [Awkward Thanksgiving dinners - plural]
How much do we trust that guy to not take some sort of advantage?
For the record, I am not digging for anything here. I am pointing to a possibility that it seemed everyone was ignoring, which is not the same as wishing it were true. Vic's situation is/was crappy enough as it is without me wanting it to be worse.I feel like this need to dig for "something even worse" is mostly a result of players getting desensitized to the idea Victoria was doing porn, over the course of the game i.e. literal years it took to make it. They may be very well as numb to it as Edwin at this point.
Also, subjectively worse is not the same as objectively worse. If we go with the assumption that there is something more to the tale than the porn Edwin has shown us, it could just be something that Vic would be more embarrassed about than the porn. It could be as simple as Vic being prepared for Edwin to find her movies, but not prepared for Edwin to find out that "Uncle" Chuck knew (or even was somehow involved). I can easily see how that added layer would shake her up more, even though it does not involve her actually doing something we did not already know about.
- Feb 13, 2021
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Oh I guess I forgot to say this here, Happy new year folks, the few days right after a new update always make me sad, I know nothing else I play will make me have as much fun as PC. Next update should be a fun one, so looking forward to that.
- Apr 28, 2018
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IIRC it was at the very least hinted Chuck was aware by the way he admonished Kat for stirring shit up, when she set up Edwin to make porn flick with Rose.
To some extent yes, but the lack of evidence in situation where you can reasonably expect said evidence to appear (either Victoria or Donovan mentioning Chuck as person who arranged the audition or that anyone had hand in arranging it) suggests the lack of appearance is caused by actual absence.
I mean, you could also say that due to lack of evidence to the contrary Chuck may very well be a shapeshifting lizard from Tau Ceti, but we know that mere lack of evidence doesn't make this scenario very likely, and it's probably not worth considering.
This is possible, but i feel like it'd add nothing but complexity merely for the sake of unneeded extra complexity, one that ends up muddling the image with no benefit in return. And i think that this game's authors know better than that.