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Aahh, well that one looks too scary for my boner! Like a loyal dog one word from Able and she will be eating from your hand, but give her free reign and she will take you for a ride and not in a pleasant way. Smoking hot tho.
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Uh, you do know you're playing a game that explicitly centers around a whorehouse, right? That a lot of the supporting cast are sex workers shouldn't be a surprise. It's not like the game was selling itself as a self-insert isekai harem fantasy.
Either that is demonstrably not true, or you're not using the word 'whore' correctly. Mina isn't a sex worker, nor is she promiscuous. Edwin is only her second sexual partner, and she doesn't pursue any actions with Edwin until AFTER finding the USB drive with video evidence of Ian having a threesome with his childhood nanny.
OOF.
MEGA OOF.
Mina is demonstrably a 'gentle sweet girl', and having a kinky side doesn't change that. The problem is not Mina having a kinky side, the problem is judgmental people trying to slut-shame others for having perfectly healthy sexual interests. The problem is not Victoria performing sex work, the problem is judgmental people trying to slut-shame others for providing for their families. We should all be so lucky as to have a mother like Victoria that cared enough for her son's well being that she'd willingly debase herself in order to provide for him; people have fought and died for less. If only we lived in a world that would spare her and her son from imposing its collective shame on them for trying their best with the hand they were dealt.
Again, I don't think the word 'whore' means what you think it means. Mina and Hana are not sex workers, nor are they promiscuous. As for the Carnations, they fit the definition; but the whole point of the narrative is exploring the coercive power dynamics that got the them there. If the tale of Rosalind's unearned circumstances and dedication to her daughter can't elicit enough sympathy from you to not use 'whore' as a pejorative, this probably isn't the game for you. Go find a boring isekai harem fantasy game where the whole world revolves around the MC's magic dick, a game filled with no exploration of challenging ideas or concepts.
Again, if you've gotten this far and have yet to disabuse yourself of the notion that this game is not a wish-fulfilment power fantasy, not sure what I or anyone else can say to you.
Meh. The fate of Edwin's father is not a mystery that needs to be solved. It's certainly not a driving motivation for Edwin. It is simply a background detail offered up to explain the circumstances of Edwin and Victoria's past. Not saying there couldn't be more to it, only that there doesn't need to be. Not every question in a drama needs an answer. Also, again with the slut-shaming...
Yeah, you really should be playing something else. You clearly want a wish fulfillment power fantasy. Nothing wrong with that, but that's just not the experience this game is trying to offer.
What game are you even playing? This is hands-down one of the most thoughtfully well written things to ever have graced this forum, let alone this sub-genre. I get that moral dilemmas are not everyone's cup of tea, but that's just what the game is.
Are you sure? Cause that was a whole lot of slut-shaming (again, in a game explicitly revolving around a whorehouse and sex workers) for a game you claim to be a favorite of yours. It seems like perhaps you only like the excellent visuals, cause everything in your post indicates that the story is just not for you.
There can be a dilemma only if there is a choice, there is not a single moment in the game where you can influence events in the future from which there is no dilemma, and being with Hana or Mina is a minor that does not affect the plot.
I didn't say that the story in this game is very well written, no, it's just better than in other games.
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Not only that, quite unique for a porn game, this tread is surely material for not one but several doctoral theses, like "Moral dilemmas of young adult males and females in today's society" or ... Feel free to suggest appropriate theses titles!
I just play a little bit about this game, so how many girls can be a girlfriend with MC so far in this update?
I don't like friend zone or FWB so at least one or two of the girl can be a girlfriend with MC right?
I don't like friend zone or FWB so at least one or two of the girl can be a girlfriend with MC right?
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I mean, not everyone can put as little effort into their posts as you do? Congrats?
With strings attached. Both of them were being lead on. Edwin can piece things together, and he can lean into the lie rather than doubling down on exposing it. He knows he's not yet an employee, he can tell this is a sham meeting. Chuck tells him that he'll respect Edwin's decision (which only makes sense after talking to Rosalind), so her place isn't even in jeopardy if she doesn't sleep with him. Edwin is handed sexual leverage over Rosalind, and while he's clearly being pushed into using it, he doesn't have to. His choice to do so is ultimately his alone. How is that anything but an abuse of trust? The options itself is explicitly labeled 'Take advantage of her'. Not sure the game can make that any more explicit. If you don't get it, you're not paying attention.
Rosalind needed help. Mrs. Pullman abused her trust by making her a Carnation rather than going though legitimate charities to solve her problem. Chuck and Ian, in helping setup this meeting, made themselves complicit in that abuse of trust. If Edwin partakes in the perpetuation of the coercion, he too implicates himself in this violation.
That is Victim Blaming 101 right there. She had a kid, she was married, and she was trying to make it work for all their sake's. Her husband dealt with the loan sharks. Rosalind is under zero fucking legal obligations to them, but they operate outside the law. Filling bankruptcy won't make them just go away. It's why Mrs. Pullman has so much leverage over her, it's why Rosalind is so desperate, it's why her story is tragic. Again, if you're not getting it, you're not paying attention.
But I'm not saying that stuff doesn't happen. The person I was responding to was seemingly flabbergasted that Mina didn't share her list with Ian, and the idea that Ian couldn't be trusted with such a potentially hurtful secret was somehow alien to them. Cause the idea that someone who can't be trusted to not fuck around, probably also can't be trusted to keep their damn mouth shut, was somehow a bridge too far for them to connect the mental dots.
Again, the dad being dead just is. It explains the circumstances. If he were alive, he could have delivered the line on the watch himself, but then Victorias' porn career would need to be rewritten. He's gone, that's all he needs to be so far. Edwin hasn't been obsessing over his dad. Rather, his predominate focus has been on his mother, and how her past reflects on his current circumstance and those he now finds himself surrounded with. The story hasn't been a murder mystery, nor does it need to be. Edwin's father might as well be the Force in Star Wars. It's a literal plot device, so it doesn't need to be explained, it already serves it's narrative purpose as is; and you'd better be careful you don't make things actively worse if you do explain the mystery (how much better was the Force made by Midi-chlorians?).
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NO. Play game.Well, can you tell me who is it?
Oh man, Mina is just FWB, what a disappointment. And Hana is an official girlfriend yet or is just a hint :V
Or maybe MC's father is still alive and kept by Abel in the basement as a lab rat to test his drug. Because why Edwin was so easily hired for such a job, because he knows Ian or his uncle, and Kathleen is so interested in MC, I don’t think so. Perhaps this is all a trap in order to lure Edwin and find out his potential, because when Kathleen used the drug on him, she was very impressed. Also, Kathleen could persuade Hana to seduce Edwin in such a way that he would think that he now has another person in this club whom he can trust. In addition, Kathleen allows Edwin too much and she checked him for honesty more than once, for example, when after the last carnation punishment she asked a question and you could tell about Harper and Lucy or Emma, and Kathleen, although she already knew everything and this question was another test of honesty.
Ian gave the best advice to Edwin "don't trust sluts" , all the girls that surround him, guess who they are? SLUTS
, all the girls that surround him, guess who they are? SLUTS 
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The biggest slut is Ian though...so if you shouldn't trust sluts, you shouldn't trust the fact, that you shouldn't trust sluts...Ian gave the best advice to Edwin "don't trust sluts"
But Edwin also became a slut, all people are sluts, which is why no one trusts anyone and everyone wants to fuck you for their own benefits.The biggest slut is Ian though...so if you shouldn't trust sluts, you shouldn't trust the fact, that you shouldn't trust sluts...
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Ho boy. That you think THAT is a 'gotcha' question is kinda low-key hilarious. But sure, I'll bite.
The answer is: Depends on the context.
Genuine accident? Almost certainly not. Accidents happen, that's what makes them accidents.
If it was a preventable accident? If the wife had been operating it negligently? If the car was say, a passion project (e.g. resto muscle car)? Then maybe don't let her drive the expensive toys anymore, but not like you need to force her to take the bus to work everyday.
If the car was some point of contention in the relationship (e.g. it was an obsession or a money pit, wife wanted it gone because of competition for time and attention), and she wrecked it on purpose? I mean, sure, that's an abject betrayal of one's trust for another's gain. That's the kind of shit that can absolutely end relationships.
The only thing that maybe crosses the line is the kissing, which again, was practice for something she was gonna do anyways as part of her job. She's an actress, and not all roles are as celibate monks devoid of on-screen intimacy. It was a hot scene were Mina losses herself a bit in role and in response to Edwin's actions. Otherwise, unless you're a supremely insecure fuck-up that demands absolute obedience from and control over their partner (in which case you want a slave, not a girlfriend), the rest of that is fine.
Mina is gregarious, and that doesn't make her unfaithful. Long hugs are not cheating, nor is having a bubbly personality (even if that is a mask, she's hardly the only one with different public and private 'faces'). Did you perhaps not get hugged enough growing up? Raised in one of those super conservative cloistered cults where a lady showing some ankle is absolutely scandalous, and talking to another man without her keeper present is being an unabashed slut?
The shopping part was entirely platonic and incredibly tame (unless Edwin has the Voyeur trait, in which case Mina is annoyed with his peeking and is not at all flirty), and occurred because Ian blew off her and her plans. That's because Ian was blasted and giving out free face-rides to not-his-girlfriend the night before. Also, Edwin doesn't have to cover for Ian being missing, nor accept Mina's invitation to go shopping. The event occurs because Edwin reciprocates. If you're gonna paint Mina as a whore for simply hanging out with a male friend, then Edwin must be a home-wrecker for the very same. I have noticed however that you haven't been at all critical for the role Edwin plays here; Mina is not acting in a vacuum.
You also forgot the club, where Ian is actively flirting with another girl (the violet haired Amber, the other part of Ian's threesome with his nanny, and drunk Ian face-ride recipient). Also when Edwin is asked if he knew about the cheating and he's honest, Mina thanks him for not lying and tells him that she's partially to blame for having ignored it herself up until that point. She knew, and had known, for quite some time; the USB drive was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. That was the final betrayal so obvious and arresting in its totality that it demanded confrontation. The problem could no longer just be brushed under the rug, hoping that it would go away or fix itself.
Let also not forget that Mina and Ian's relationship is a gauged by a literal variable in the game's code. In order to progress down Mina's path, it requires you to be honest with her at key decisions to earn enough point to erode away their relationship score. Edwin is an active participant in this endeavor, Mina is not just throwing herself at Edwin for sex regardless of his actions.
Rosalind was being setup, and Edwin comes to realize it. She was instructed to have sex to ensure her position at the club, but Edwin wasn't told the same; indeed Chuck explicitly told him that he'd respect Edwin's decision ("I'll honor whatever decision you come to regarding the lass. Talk to you later."). So Edwin knows he has the decision making power here, and he's smart enough to put 2-and-2 together and can pretty easily surmise that Rosalind is being coerced to be there.
So again, does Edwin become complicit in the machinations of the club to get laid, or does he respect Rosalind enough to treat her like a human being? Edwin knows that he can just approve her without fucking her, and by the magic of video-games, we the audience can see that play out by choosing to not take advantage of her. I mean, do you just not understand what coercion is and how it works? The fundamentals in unequal power dynamics in human interaction? Or are you really naïve enough to think that Rosalind is there purely of her own volition, and that outside circumstances (again, being manipulated by the Carnation Club itself) have zero role to play here? People do not operate or make decisions in a vacuum.
I kinda get the impression that if a school bully shook a kid down for their lunch money, and said bully beat up the kid for refusing, you'd blame the kid and not the bully cause 'the kid had a choice'.
For some background - the chief reason I accused you of waxing political dogma in prior posts is I've yet to see a single criticism of any female in any of your statements. (well that and gratuitous use of buzzwords as true-degenerate pointed out)
I referenced Derrida because only through a simplistic lense of "There are two classes of people: oppressors and oppressed" does this kind of analysis make sense.
Fortunately for you and unfortunately for me, this type of philosophy has become extremely popular in the past 4 years, so you'll likely have more cohorts than not.
At the end of the day, Ians a piece o crap for cheating, and Mina and Edwin are pieces of crap for entertaining incestuous (so to speak) attractions and relationships. If you're not completely hard up for action, find someone who isn't your friend's ex.
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I try to cultivate a certain voice with my writing. If that voice caused you a knee-jerk reaction (e.g. SJW? REEEEEEE!), I think that says more about you than it does me.
That's not even remotely close to what I'm doing. I'm trying to point out how context matters, something you seem to conveniently forget or ignore when it's not conducive to the point you're trying to argue. The game is a complex mural of ethical dilemmas and choices, and someone running around going 'they're all just whores' as a blanket pejorative statement needs to be called out on their bullshit. Ditto when others ignore coercion and pretend like someone's trust isn't being violated.
That's your choice to make, but forgoing that and being nice to Mina doesn't make her a whore; and it's sad we gotta pull proverbial teeth here to get to that point.
For me the "Girls/LI Trinity" in the game are Hana, Felicia and Sophia, hands down.
About Hana we discussed already long and much, so currently I do not repeat her plus points again.
Felicia is a talented artist we learned, is intelligent, quirky and a loose cannon in the bedroom. What is there not to like? Her husband Elias is an idiot for not seeing the raw diamond he has with her. She would not even be at PC if he would have gotten his head out of his backside and given Feli the money to save/reopen her old school.Something which would not only have been peanuts for him, but gotten him a lot of positive PR.
Doc Sophia Lundgren is a worldclass scientist, intelligent, eccentric, quirky, chessmaster and someone you should never underestimate. She has a Samurai-Daimyo like relationship with Abel, but she will inherit his medical imperium later on. One of the funniest scenes in the game so far is the "nerd squad" of Sophia and Edwin trying to be cool joke tellers and ending up showing only that their nerd humour is an aquired taste.