i can't stop speculating that "firebug" means there is an option to set some part of the building on fire to escape.
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Im at chapter 2 , probably 1/3 or half way, the story is good, the concept is intruging , my only complain is... there's wayyyyyyyyyyy too much fore play and almost 0 actual "penetration" (or sex to be blunt) and it did piss me off a bit.
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hehe means you still "didn't understand the essence of the wastelands".
for penetrations, it is up to you, oh young lad, to direct your steps towards the pornhub. visual novels are only the last thing about penetrations and, first of all, they are mind games ... about how angels gradually turn into .... into ... well, in general, these angels turn into someone, but these angels turn, (you grow up - you'll understand... as they say, "children under 18...") hehe...
visual novels are the same novels "but with a plus sign, often hidden between the lines" - as in any brain there are "cockroaches" that are sometimes not immediately visible and crawl out only occasionally. and penetration is also sometimes extremely rare. essence is the relationship between people. relationship development over time. in a way it's a book, but it's interactive.
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The key word being 'by force', which is what matters for rape in all circumstances.
Having a power dynamic does not directly imply rape. Employing that power dynamic, much like physical power, to force yourself on someone is what constitutes rape. You're going off on a tangent.
If you start going down this loop, soon enough you'll find yourself concluding that anyone with a penis is just a rapist.
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I read somewhere that even what was originally supposed to be rape, but ended in mutual pleasure, is no longer considered rape by the "victim" but goes along the line of unexpected love affairs, role-playing games - if I may say so ... the main thing is that the lady turned out to be satisfied (because, why pretend, we always try to make the lady happy, even if we have a deep offense against women - such is the law of life). if this is done then there is no violence. if the lady is not satisfied, then even ordinary family sex according to the schedule can turn into rape. Not everything in life is as simple as it seems. and starting to simplify - you come to a black and white perception of life. I don’t want to say big words, but this is a kind of Nazism, where "strangers are untermensch" and do not deserve the right to life. I believe that any case of "rape" should be considered in the most thorough way, taking into account even the way the "victim" herself behaved, since there are always two sides to any event that has occurred.
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I think the main thing is consent. Rape can occur without force with help of drugs for example. If there no consent on both sides its pretty much rape.
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Now this is a tough one.
Although almost all contemporary societies do have a criminal offense called "rape" and outlaw it as one of the most serious crimes, there is no uniform definition of this legal term.
Forced sexual intercourse within marriage (in Germany rape could not occur inside a marriage per legal definition until 1997) or with opponents in the course of war (pretty sure the special operators in Ukr will not be sued back home), or with minorities or slaves (widely practised by ISIS members against their yazidi slaves) has not been or is not universally recognized as a criminal offense.
Many societies also blame or blamed the victim (looking at you ramvivat), which is expressed, for example, in social exclusion (the yazidi women often faced this from their families after being freed) and even forced marriage with the rapist (like practised in Syria and the UAE).
While recent developments have certainly lowered the threshold of what is considered rape in some countries (as expressed in nevermorexx post) other cultures may set the bar much higher. There are fine and sometimes fluid lines between sexual harassment, sexual coercion and rape.
Lets play out some Weinstein scenarios:
(Disclaimer: i am not a lawyer, so take these with a grain of salt.)
So finding a common ground on that matter in a community like F95ZONE with such a multitude of cultural backgrounds, is practically impossible. Therefore i would advocate to accept TD1900s point of view, whenever you can align it with your conscience.
Because i strongly believe if TD1900 would have written a rape scene, there wouldnt be any ambiguity around it.
Although almost all contemporary societies do have a criminal offense called "rape" and outlaw it as one of the most serious crimes, there is no uniform definition of this legal term.
Forced sexual intercourse within marriage (in Germany rape could not occur inside a marriage per legal definition until 1997) or with opponents in the course of war (pretty sure the special operators in Ukr will not be sued back home), or with minorities or slaves (widely practised by ISIS members against their yazidi slaves) has not been or is not universally recognized as a criminal offense.
Many societies also blame or blamed the victim (looking at you ramvivat), which is expressed, for example, in social exclusion (the yazidi women often faced this from their families after being freed) and even forced marriage with the rapist (like practised in Syria and the UAE).
While recent developments have certainly lowered the threshold of what is considered rape in some countries (as expressed in nevermorexx post) other cultures may set the bar much higher. There are fine and sometimes fluid lines between sexual harassment, sexual coercion and rape.
Lets play out some Weinstein scenarios:
(Disclaimer: i am not a lawyer, so take these with a grain of salt.)
- Weinstein: "You know i have a tremendous influence on which actresses are considered for the cast. I heard you have special talents but i have yet to see them in action." Actress:"What do you mean? How can i convince you of my qualities?" Weinstein: "I dont know..." *looks at her mouth and makes a vague gesture just below his bellybutton. Actress catches up, makes a disgusted face, turns her head towards the door but drops finally to her knees, unbuttons his fly and blows him. Any prosecutor would have a very hard time to sue Weinstein for rape in this case. Perhaps sexual harassment
- Weinstein: "You know i have a tremendous influence on which actresses are considered for the cast. I heard you have special talents but i have yet to see them in action." Actress:"What do you mean? How can i convince you of my qualities?" Weinstein: "I dont know..." *looks at her mouth and makes a vague gesture just below his bellybutton. Actress catches up, makes a disgusted face, turns her head towards the door and says: "I dont want to do this..." but drops finally to her knees unbuttons his fly, and blows him. A german prosecutor would now have the first step into a possible sexual coercion case, since she expressed her unwillingness for the act.
- Weinstein: "You know i have a tremendous influence on which actresses are considered for the cast. I heard you have special talents but i have yet to see them in action." Actress:"What do you mean? How can i convince you of my qualities?" Weinstein: "Well, i can help you, if you help me, else... i dont know..." *looks at her mouth and points to his crotch. Actress catches up, makes a disgusted face, turns her head towards the door and says: "I dont want to do this..." but drops finally to her knees, unbuttons his fly and blows him. Now a german prosecutor would get into the range of a possible rape case, since Weinstein insinuated a harm to her career and made it somewhat clear what exactly he expects from her to avert this harm.
- Weinstein: "You know i have a tremendous influence on which actresses are considered for the cast. I heard you have special talents but i have yet to see them in action." Actress:"What do you mean? How can i convince you of my qualities?" Weinstein: "Well, i can help you, if you help me, else... i dont know..." *looks at her mouth and points to his crotch. Actress catches up, makes a disgusted face, turns her head towards the door, says: "I dont want to do this..." and heads towards the door. Weinstein runs after her and blocks physically the door: "Dont be stupid, you are just gaining momentum in this industry!" the actress sighs "You bastard, very well then..." and drops finally to her knees, unbuttons his fly and blows him. A prosecutor is now probably again a step away from a rape case and would rather press charges for sexual coercion; if he is lazy or an coward perhaps even just sexual harassment.
So finding a common ground on that matter in a community like F95ZONE with such a multitude of cultural backgrounds, is practically impossible. Therefore i would advocate to accept TD1900s point of view, whenever you can align it with your conscience.
Because i strongly believe if TD1900 would have written a rape scene, there wouldnt be any ambiguity around it.
Am I the only one who think this discussion is a little bit surreal? Also because TD1900 already stated that scene wasn't meant to be a rape.
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"Weinstein: "You know i have a tremendous influence on which actresses are considered for the cast. I heard you have special talents but i have yet to see them in action." Actress:"What do you mean? How can i convince you of my qualities?" Weinstein: "Well, i can help you, if you help me, else i make sure you will never get any jobs again" *looks at her mouth and points to his crotch. The Actress catches up, makes a disgusted face, turns her head towards the door, says: "I dont want to do this..." and heads towards the door. Weinstein runs after her and blocks physically the door: "Dont be stupid, you are just gaining momentum in this industry!" the actress pleads "No, please let me out!" Weinstein forces her with his strong right hand on her knees, while unzipping his fly with his left hand. "No, blow me you bitch, if you know whats good for you!" The actress struggles against his grip, and starts to cry out of desperation. Weinstein forces his dick into her mouth: "If i feel any teeth, i will strangle you right here!" Terrified the actress goes limp and Weinstein skullfucks her until release. "Now, get the fuck out of here you whore, and if you tell anyone, remember it is my word against yours." Smiling he watches her unsteady leave."
This is not a rape scene, i have written it, i should know.
This is not a rape scene, i have written it, i should know.
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I'm a believer of authorial intent being irrelevant, but in this case it was like a three sentence description of an event that occurred off screen - between a man and his former nanny I might add, which I think muddles things a bit if you're discussing the balance of power in their relationship.
That said, it's nice seeing discussions pop up from small details.
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You are to blame for adding such details which are worth discussing over.(...)
That said, it's nice seeing discussions pop up from small details.
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emmm talk about Life In Scanta County in the Pale Carnations tread?!!! you have BALLS! (or you are stupid?) =)
it's extremely HOT!!! hehehe man you are PERVERT! =)))
it's like discussing your mistress with your wife...
Hmmm, is the game end a bit fast or did i miss out sth, i thought chapter 3 update 4 means somewhere near the end of week 3 or sth, not after the 2nd Carnation on Week 2 -6/13 Saturday.
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Chapter 1 was the introduction/set up, chapter 2 is week 1 of the competition, chapter 3 is week 2, and so on.
They'll be five chapters.
Ah.. alright, that's a bit dissapointing ngl, i am expecting a bit more content when the game abruptly end like that, a shame it end right at the best part.
Let me understand, the game isn't finished, we don't know how many updates will occur to complete a chapter and are you complaining about the fact it will abruptly end?
Dont think u understand my line, im not complaining, i love the game, the story, the character , the psychology and depravity is extremely well written, its too good that i feel sad it end at week 2, while i mistaken chapter 3 mean week 3 and expect another run when i open up the game this evening and it "abruptly" end for me cus my last save is at the end of the Week 2 carnation, im dissapointing obviously but also look forward to the next update and what the talented dev gonna come up with in the next update.