YogSothoth1982

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I understand it can be a frustration, but can't it also be a good thing? There's always a potential to discover a new scene or variation of a scene when you play again, even months later.
I know I loved that with another particular game before so I enjoy that same thing here.
If I come across a route while playing where an LI has sex with someone other than the MC, I'll likely close the game and delete it. So I guess it's not worth downloading.
 

erokinng

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Just started playing. Ran into a somewhat large continuity issue early on.

First,the phone stats have me on "Netorare 1" path, Branch 1, Corruption 6, Jealousy 2, Confidence 0, Personality Neutral. Attributes is empty and so is kinks/fetishes.

I think for this particular continuity issue, the only choices that matter is the first beach party. I chose to dance with her, then ignored the nip slip. When she left by herself, I hung out with the boys at the bonfire. When she left with Derek, I texted her and then went back to the main party. After going back home, I chose to have sex in the hot tub.

Here's the continuity issue: Apparently the game thinks I watched her and Derek fuck. While we were fucking she bragged about being stretched out by him even though at this point I've told her I'd like to keep my cuckold fantasy as just that, a fantasy (no cheating). Then in the morning, MC mused about watching Derek fuck his wife, which I absolutely did not see.

I think the culprit is the second party choices. I went back to that choice to follow her or go back to the party and chose to follow them. I get the whole confrontation where she teases me about thinking she was going to do anything with him, etc. etc. Then when I get to the hot tub and morning after, there's no more mention of watching her and Derek fuck.

So basically... I imagine that if you don't follow her she fucks Derek behind your back, but the game instead flags it as you being present for their adultery, which I think only happens if you approach them at the second party and go home with him.
 

erokinng

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Okay just finished an initial play. Right now, game feels really light on content, but I imagine that's because it is very wide with a lot of different branches. That's always going to be a problem for games like this, especially if you are trying to flesh out all paths simultaneously. The changelog says 40k words, but for any given path that might be more like 10k, generously, and most people are committed to one path they prefer rather than going back and constantly trying to get all paths. This isn't a negative criticism at all, but rather just an observation for the dev to know that in the future when people inevitably say shit like, "I waited a month for 5 minutes of content, worthless", this is why. You obviously put in a lot of work on ALL paths, but any given player will likely play only one maybe two or three (and likely just minor variations within a single main path) paths and be done with an update.

I know that the phone is a WIP, but perhaps for now you should disable all the buttons that don't do anything, because currently they cause a soft crash when clicking on them. Luckily RenPy's native error handling gracefully handles it. I am wondering, is there plans to add tracking for the wife on the phone? I know that's particularly popular in NTR games to have the love interest's "experience" be tracked somewhere for the player to read about it.

On the NTR path, so far I'm kind of confused why only one wife POV scene exists (NTR 3, in case that matters) when it's clear there's several encounters she has behind MC's back. I don't know if they are planned for later or what, but consistency in the availability of scene view for players is usually pretty important in this genre. Some strictly want the "mystery" MC-only POV at all times, while others want the "omniscient" all-POV so they can see the action happening. So far, the only people who are getting what they want are the mystery POV players since they get to choose to not see the wife POV scene (although arguably, the fact that it asks the question in the moment still somewhat spoils the mystery), while omniscient POV players have several scenes skipped for them automatically.

Anyways, so far so good. Renders are nice. There was one instance of AI art in the background that I noticed, which was interesting. It looks like it's just a basic in universe ad for the club they are in with just the club name and a girl, so why use AI art instead of just making a scene with a 3d modeled character like has been used throughout the rest of the game? Basically, the art piece in question doesn't need to exist at all IMO, so all you're doing is pissing off any anti-AI art people by including it, while it provides no real substance to the game that justifies its existence.
 

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This was solid. I like how branching it can be. Blue hair girl is probably my fav, hopefully various routes with her where you can ditch the wife for her.
 

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is there a way for greg? and if there is, can someone explain it to me?
Not yet. People seem to like Greg, no idea why. But he will be getting a bigger role in the future.

Many errors in that update.
Like in the path where Derek fucks both Chloe & Amanda, telling Chloe no condom still applies one.
And there's one instance of Wifecorruption instead of WifeCorruption (case matters) in the section Chloe meets Derek at the bar, "dissovle" instead of "dissolve", "Humilation" instead of "Humiliation", ... Doesn't look like it was tested enough.

Overall a small update (storywise) and the best part for me was fucking Amanda upstairs. But it tidies up all the different paths left at the end of the previous update.
Thank you very much, will fix these errors.

Wish his brother can enjoy his wife too.
Soon.
Is this yet another of those VNs where you can in theory avoid NTR but that way you miss a ton of content and most of the point of the game?
There is a Harem path in which she doesn't cheat at all with other men. Guide can be found here

Great game. Any chance we will be able to corrupt the wife or sister-in-law to be sexy smokers at some point? ;-)
Had no idea smoking was a fetish. Neat, I'm always open to adding fetishes.

Can you avoid the NTR but still get sharing with only females? I don't like ANY of my females to be with any other males but me, Only females.
Harem path: Guide can be found here

I can totally see why game developers abandon games here. The dev was really active with the forum in the beginning but with so much nonconstructive feedback the devs responses have slowed and mostly disappeared.

I think the game is fantastic, would love some more NTS as watching the wife with all the other guys is hot. And the only two other things I will say are; it would be awesome to bring the girl from the beginning in the shop back into the fold she was hot, and in the bathroom scene where the wife blows the group of guys for those that picked heavy humiliation you could have her kiss the MC without swallowing in front of everyone to add insult to injury.

I can't wait to see your future updates this game is by far one of my favorites on this site, keep up the amazing work.

Final thing I forgot to add it would be awesome if someone could make a walk through so I could view all the scenes it took me way too long to get the beach gangbang lol.
Thank you for the kind words, don't worry I'm not going to abandon the game. I've got sequels and prequels planned, this a franchise! :cool:

I'm not active because I'm very busy working on updates. Unfortunately this is not my full time job, maybe someday.

needs more wife pov
It's coming in Chapter 3 and more in future chapters.

How about letting the MC kick some ass instead? Getting tired of seeing the wife doing stuff behind his back..
If you try to push aside Paulo's minion's to stop Paulo from messing with your wife and if the dice rolls are on your side, ass is kicked.
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However if the dice aren't in your favor, you get your ass handed to you.
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In the Harem Path you can also punch Derek. He tanks it though, because he's a beast.
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Is there no out and out cheating route for the MC , played it a few different ways and I seem to get everything but that which seems odd given how many branches there are in the game
There is no cheating route for the MC.

So is the NTR in this game optional or a route or is it unavoidable?
Harem Path: Guide can be found here

Anything go down with Greg the brother?
Not yet.

Dose the shop keeper make another appearance and dose James View attachment 5213085
The shop keeper no. James is a lean mean creampie eating machine.
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Just started playing. Ran into a somewhat large continuity issue early on.

First,the phone stats have me on "Netorare 1" path, Branch 1, Corruption 6, Jealousy 2, Confidence 0, Personality Neutral. Attributes is empty and so is kinks/fetishes.

I think for this particular continuity issue, the only choices that matter is the first beach party. I chose to dance with her, then ignored the nip slip. When she left by herself, I hung out with the boys at the bonfire. When she left with Derek, I texted her and then went back to the main party. After going back home, I chose to have sex in the hot tub.

Here's the continuity issue: Apparently the game thinks I watched her and Derek fuck. While we were fucking she bragged about being stretched out by him even though at this point I've told her I'd like to keep my cuckold fantasy as just that, a fantasy (no cheating). Then in the morning, MC mused about watching Derek fuck his wife, which I absolutely did not see.

I think the culprit is the second party choices. I went back to that choice to follow her or go back to the party and chose to follow them. I get the whole confrontation where she teases me about thinking she was going to do anything with him, etc. etc. Then when I get to the hot tub and morning after, there's no more mention of watching her and Derek fuck.

So basically... I imagine that if you don't follow her she fucks Derek behind your back, but the game instead flags it as you being present for their adultery, which I think only happens if you approach them at the second party and go home with him.
I looked into this. It seems I forgot to add a condition for that text, if NTR is true then it won't show up. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Okay just finished an initial play. Right now, game feels really light on content, but I imagine that's because it is very wide with a lot of different branches. That's always going to be a problem for games like this, especially if you are trying to flesh out all paths simultaneously. The changelog says 40k words, but for any given path that might be more like 10k, generously, and most people are committed to one path they prefer rather than going back and constantly trying to get all paths. This isn't a negative criticism at all, but rather just an observation for the dev to know that in the future when people inevitably say shit like, "I waited a month for 5 minutes of content, worthless", this is why. You obviously put in a lot of work on ALL paths, but any given player will likely play only one maybe two or three (and likely just minor variations within a single main path) paths and be done with an update.
NTR path is the lightest in Chapter 1 and 2 but upcoming Chapter 3 has a large NTR section, including wife pov's of encounters from Chapter 2 as well as a flashback to 3 months before Paradise.

I know that the phone is a WIP, but perhaps for now you should disable all the buttons that don't do anything, because currently they cause a soft crash when clicking on them. Luckily RenPy's native error handling gracefully handles it. I am wondering, is there plans to add tracking for the wife on the phone? I know that's particularly popular in NTR games to have the love interest's "experience" be tracked somewhere for the player to read about it.
Will do, I don't think there will be wife tracking on the phone. Maybe.


On the NTR path, so far I'm kind of confused why only one wife POV scene exists (NTR 3, in case that matters) when it's clear there's several encounters she has behind MC's back. I don't know if they are planned for later or what, but consistency in the availability of scene view for players is usually pretty important in this genre. Some strictly want the "mystery" MC-only POV at all times, while others want the "omniscient" all-POV so they can see the action happening. So far, the only people who are getting what they want are the mystery POV players since they get to choose to not see the wife POV scene (although arguably, the fact that it asks the question in the moment still somewhat spoils the mystery), while omniscient POV players have several scenes skipped for them automatically.
Because I hadn't thought of it when I wrote those Chapters. Wife POV was suggested to me and I've started doing it in Chapter 3 and it works really well. It's a much better way of writing NTR. I was at first only ever going to do stuff happening in the background while the MC conveniently has his back turned. But that really wasn't interesting. Will do more POV stuff in the future on the other paths too.

I'm going to be doing my own style of NTR, taking inspiration from the genre but forging my own path.


Anyways, so far so good. Renders are nice. There was one instance of AI art in the background that I noticed, which was interesting. It looks like it's just a basic in universe ad for the club they are in with just the club name and a girl, so why use AI art instead of just making a scene with a 3d modeled character like has been used throughout the rest of the game? Basically, the art piece in question doesn't need to exist at all IMO,
Boils down to time and I wanted it to look a specific style. It does it's job.


so all you're doing is pissing off any anti-AI art people by including it
Good! :rolleyes:

Awesome, that's neat.

This was solid. I like how branching it can be. Blue hair girl is probably my fav, hopefully various routes with her where you can ditch the wife for her.
Funnily enought that's one of the possible endings.

The netorase / humiliation path is incredible! So good
Thank you.
 

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Need some help here. In the club there is a section where you get to see her POV. She is blowing 5 guys in the bathroom. I responded different it offers me her POV but no scene happens. Later you go to the bathroom to look for her and the guys pass and she is seen running to the womens room. Is that an error, did she blow them but it didn't show it but why give the option to see or just a DEV trick to make you guess.
 

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Need some help here. In the club there is a section where you get to see her POV. She is blowing 5 guys in the bathroom. I responded different it offers me her POV but no scene happens. Later you go to the bathroom to look for her and the guys pass and she is seen running to the womens room. Is that an error, did she blow them but it didn't show it but why give the option to see or just a DEV trick to make you guess.
What do you mean you responded different?
 

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What do you mean you responded different?
When i was at the couch my responses were different. 1 set of choices were more agreeable to exploration also knowledge of the island. the other more what about the island and more disagreeable to exploration.
 

TwistedArchitect

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When i was at the couch my responses were different. 1 set of choices were more agreeable to exploration also knowledge of the island. the other more what about the island and more disagreeable to exploration.
I have no idea how the scene didn't show.

If you choose to "No" (Not skip the scene), the scene happens.

If you choose "Yes" you want to skip the scene it skips it.

*Edit*
I think I understand now. She blows them whether you watch the scene or not.
 

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TwistedArchitect Like, this is interesting, but clearly it is easy to miss certain scenes and not readily clear which choice leads where really... I don't mind it not being too transparent, but a game like this really NEEDS a replay gallery to later look up what paths werent taken, otherwise people that wanna see everything will have to randomly guess themselves trough the game several times...
 

TwistedArchitect

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I don't know about replay gallery, I would have to look into it. I am working on guides, but it was a problem figuring out how to format it. The choices are not simple binary things; pick a and you get this content A, pick b and you get content B. There's a lot of information and I needed to find a way to organize it in an easy to understand way.

Luckily I think I've found it.


This is a test, the idea being that you would click on the Scene name and it would take you to a page with additional information on the scene. Perhaps even screenshots.
 

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I don't know about replay gallery, I would have to look into it. I am working on guides, but it was a problem figuring out how to format it. The choices are not simple binary things; pick a and you get this content A, pick b and you get content B. There's a lot of information and I needed to find a way to organize it in an easy to understand way.

Luckily I think I've found it.


This is a test, the idea being that you would click on the Scene name and it would take you to a page with additional information on the scene. Perhaps even screenshots.
WE NEED EXACTLY THIS! Thx!!
 

erokinng

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I don't know about replay gallery, I would have to look into it. I am working on guides, but it was a problem figuring out how to format it. The choices are not simple binary things; pick a and you get this content A, pick b and you get content B. There's a lot of information and I needed to find a way to organize it in an easy to understand way.

Luckily I think I've found it.


This is a test, the idea being that you would click on the Scene name and it would take you to a page with additional information on the scene. Perhaps even screenshots.
Yeah I think this is pretty good! Will there also be a scene glossary of some sort so I know which scene exactly is "scene 3" for example? Will help when going for all scenes.

I have seen other Ren'Py games with scene galleries. Not sure how easy they are to implement though. So it's definitely feasible but I understand if you don't want to focus on something like that.
 

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I don't know about replay gallery, I would have to look into it. I am working on guides, but it was a problem figuring out how to format it. The choices are not simple binary things; pick a and you get this content A, pick b and you get content B. There's a lot of information and I needed to find a way to organize it in an easy to understand way.

Luckily I think I've found it.


This is a test, the idea being that you would click on the Scene name and it would take you to a page with additional information on the scene. Perhaps even screenshots.
Hi!

Great, this is helpful! I really love the many paths, esp. the swinging, sharing paths (a special thumbs up that you can have sharing and swinging with a confident MC in charge, who can kick ass if needed, but still can also allow creampies or so early on, rare find among AVNs) and for some "different" stuff harem and romantic love, which have their own charm.
Still, some paths are quite difficult to find, it took me many tries to get to meet Erika in the club, since some choices to get her I would not do otherwise. So at least some hints would be good, do not need a complete guide.

I like your game very much!
 

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Hi TwistedArchitect !

Found a dominant sharing/swinging path with a beach gangbang, great work, even if it is not that easy to get. Great branching!
I think I found a bug too. If you are with in the club backroom with Derek, Amanda and your wife asks you if they can do it without condom, the text makes it clear the game assumes (and on many paths runs with) that up to now sex was with condoms, even if you allowed sex without condoms before.
Also there is a pic missing during a talk at the beach on day 2 after you slept in the beach chair.

Relly like the game!
 
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I loved this game.. Everything that I love is in this game.. (Italian translation, Hard humaliation, real NTR, real NTS, corruption speed is not so fast and not so slow) There was only one thing that is not good for me.. The paths are so much.. Every choice that I pick lead me different scenes.. I mean EVERY Choices.. I want to see every scenes but this game makes it so rough. I mean, Is there any walkthrough guide for all choice paths or for all scenes? (Instead of this little detail, this game is so so good <3 )
 
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