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Gaming question: I reed the wiki and I'm still confuse / wondering what is the use of color werm and all ?
Do we need them orther than the cyan versions ?
Do we need them orther than the cyan versions ?
you dont need them but there are minor variations to things with the various colors. sizes of parts, behavior of npcs i think? red was aggressive and the other blue one made either your tits or ass way bigger than the cyan werms did iirc.
while that definitely can be (and very likely is ) the case for development decisions like this, the core issue still remains that even before the majority of bugs in the first 2 chapters were sorted out chapters 3-5 were put in the game is an issue. i remember there were a few times where there was way more content in the game and then an update came and fucked everything over. I haven't actually redownloaded this in like a couple years at this point because the changelog has such minor tweaks that i very much doubt the game is even as far as some early builds got even all this time later.
basically, dev needs to focus their efforts on the core systems and like a chapter at a time instead of making half baked chapters all the way through their development. chapter 5 should never have come out when chapter 2 was still missing like half of its possible interactions
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Also be nice to see the capitalization fixed so the game doesn't double up on images
Also at the start I can't see the legs of Chet and Chloe is missing.
Edit: I'm using LibreWolf (Firefox but better) on Fedora 40 (Yes Linux).
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Game seems to have stagnated for a while for new content (mainly just bug fixes that I can see). Is there any stated planned progress for the game anywhere? (i.e. planned/future content) The premise is good but just seems to be not going anywhere for a long time.
The plan is to scrap everything and start over, but this time with AI art.
I'm not joking.
It's been a while, but I think this may be the fourth or fifth time now if that's the case.
that would imo completely destroy the game for me. the art of the characters was like the one thing that actually had me interested in dealing with this half finished mess. i dont want to see the thousandth hands melding into the partner and who's dick is it art.
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Ah i still remember the horrible section that was rewiring the brain of the target you infect after you finished the shopping mall section and the little base raid and breaking the game entirely if you played from the prelude up until then. Did they fix the 5th chapter yet or still crashes and corrupts your save into constant crashing because you did XYZ in the wrong way at some earlier point?
Yeah I remember when I first played a couple of years back and loved the whole futa/impreg corruption concept it was going with, especially with the selfcest play it had going on in chapter 1, which left me with high hopes for more of that in later chapters, but as you said, chapter 2 felt way messier than the first chapter to the point were it made me wonder why there was even a 3rd chapter available to play, let alone a 4th and a 5th chapter.
Didn't realise there was a thread for this game on f95, so I was hoping that some proper progress had been made on it since then, but apparently thats not been the case
I find it very funny that they're incredibly defensive about using AI, saying that in this exact situation it's perfectly fine to use it since it's not "replacing or displacing artists". But they're feeding the original art to the program. So... they're feeding ModeSeven's art without their consent to an AI to replicate their art so they don't have to pay for an artist...?
This game needs to have a penis parasite to add an actual penis to someone and not just use a werm as a stand in. We are talking about dick and balls. I want to see if I can make a femboy.
Yeah...that's definitely a flag raiser for me too honestly. Like them replacing the art with your generic AI gen'd art 'style' that you see pretty much everywhere is one thing, but using AI to copy ModeSeven's artstyle for the sake of saving some cash is a pretty dick move honestly. Whether the artist is ok with this or not, thats the type of shit thats gonna make other artists steer clear of you if they thats what your gonna potentially doing with their PAID-FOR artwork when you part ways
Maybe theres a side to this im not seeing, but yeah, it just doesn't seem right to me in my eyes.
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The AI artwork is a step down, but lets be clear that, at least according to them, they aren't using it for money issues. Mode Seven just isn't taking long term commissions anymore so they can't pay them even if they wanted to. They've also tried at least 5 other artists over the years to replicate or at least integrate with MS's style and they've all been terrible. I remember those from watching the updates myself.Yeah...that's definitely a flag raiser for me too honestly. Like them replacing the art with your generic AI gen'd art 'style' that you see pretty much everywhere is one thing, but using AI to copy ModeSeven's artstyle for the sake of saving some cash is a pretty dick move honestly. Whether the artist is ok with this or not, thats the type of shit thats gonna make other artists steer clear of you if they thats what your gonna potentially doing with their PAID-FOR artwork when you part ways
Maybe theres a side to this im not seeing, but yeah, it just doesn't seem right to me in my eyes.
Personally I wish they'd just get an update out without art instead, but they are probably right that this kind of game is doomed if you don't get the visual crowd pleased.
They have come out and said they are switching to ai art but that's because the artist they were using went silent and they couldn't find anyone to match the price to quality ratio.
Now with that said they are training the AI on the original art but from what I've seen they've opted for the more realistic style
Now with that said they are training the AI on the original art but from what I've seen they've opted for the more realistic style
I don't care about why they're doing it. Shitting up the game with sludge extruded from the plagiarism engine is still enough to kill my interest.
They can say all they want about it, they're training the AI on the original art, which is ModeSeven's art. You can even tell with the first generations that it's being fed their art and I'm willing to bet that ModeSeven wasn't asked prior to that, which is scummy af.
You clearly do not understand how art works.
If I made a Mona Lisa and retained ownership, then no one can do anything until the rights expire. That is the artist owning the rights.
If I commissioned the Mona Lisa, then the artist has zero say in what I do with the Mona Lisa, including using it as a basis for more art. That is the person who commissioned the art, owning the rights.
He's just training a small adaptation (LORA) on top of a model that was already trained on tens of thousands of artists. So the moral issue is still there, for those who are into that.
I don't care, I just think it looks really bad. Both the generic "realism" AI slop style and the one where he's trying to ape Modeseven's art.