BABPEEG
Member
- Aug 1, 2019
- 336
- 576
- 281
- Thread starter 7767
- Start date
fun fact thats not necessarily true for commissioned art. artists can limit what you're allowed to do with commissioned art as its still their ip
True. But in this case the artist new it was being used for a game which the dev was making money through discord so if he did put limitations then they'd most likely be very specific
I do get the legal ambiguity of using AI art and personally do feel it is a significant down grade but to be honest they were kind of fucked either way as soon as the artist dipped on them. Higher a new artist and they'd get shit for either the art not being good enough or it be a rip off well using AI results in this discussion.
At least in this case they're using the existing art to train the AI instead of just generating images until they more or less fit.
Personally I just play the game for free and I'm just happy to see it continue
Any such clause would be known by the game developer, which means there is no such clause.
You are making a lot of noise for a true non-issue. I dub thee, ARTROLL
its not a non-issue. also i think you're forgetting when this game first started. ai art was practically if not entirely non-existent at the time so there wouldn't be a clause against it because it wouldn't have been a consideration. fuck off with your artroll nonsense. Ai art is a huge issue right now that is very poorly legally defined. right now people are getting away with a lot of shit just because laws are way behind and people are lobbying to prevent them being written in the first place.
I purchased an art work online for a book. The rights were full for that piece of art. The problem is it is a full real likeness of a person. So there is some issues if I used an AI to generate more of it, due to personal likeness.
If an artist does not specify rights they do not suddenly gain rights, the only reasonable protection is against the likeness of a person or existing art. I can do a replication of the Mona Lisa but not of Mickey Mouse for example, due to the copyright on Mickey, even if I bought a Mickey Mouse image (like a comic book or such).
I also had an artwork commissioned for a book, no other art is similar, no other person or protected piece is included, and relations with the original artist have soured due to politics (and his failure to produce an art after taking money). I can create similar art or hire others to create similar art with no issues whatsoever.
You are clearly unversed in this and wish to try to create issues from nothing Artroll.
creating similar art and hiring people to create similar art is not at all the same as using the artists art to train a computer to replicate their art. and you're wrong on the artist specifying rights part. the purchaser of commissioned art does NOT own the ip or copyright and is not allowed to reproduce the art unless otherwise specified in the contract. in the U.S. at least unless explicitly stated in the contract the commissioner owns no rights to the art and can do nothing with it outside of the original terms. The original artist can do whatever they want with the art unless otherwise specified in the contract. If the creator published or sold the chet/chloe and other character arts as their own pieces theres nothing the dev can do about it if they didn't specify exclusive ownership in the contract. As for the dev team, they own no rights to the ip or the copyright and can only use the art as specified in the commission.
As i said before AI legislation is severely lacking at present so the devs might not be doing anything technically illegal at present by using the commissioned art to train an algorithm to reproduce it but that doesnt mean they have the rights to.
Also you said you purchased the FULL rights to the art for the book. unless the artist or the dev reveals the details of the contract for the commissioned art we can only go by how the rights would play out in a general contract.
There is a big difference in people using commissioned art for inspiration, and feeding it to a computer to reproduce that artists work and style without their input. Unfortunately when it comes to ai art neither of us is correct or incorrect at this time as the legal framework surrounding ai art pales in comparison to that surrounding human made art. It is my opinion that training on commissioned art is equivalent to forgery if done without the artists permission. you may believe otherwise but at present there is not a definitive answer.
In any case, i've wasted enough time arguing with strangers on the internet. if you've got something to say that doesn't rely on calling me an artroll to dismiss what i said ill hear you out. Otherwise im done with this, have a nice day/night whatever
Intereting game (with fetishism I was not aware of) ... a suggestion if I may (it might have been done prior, I'm new to this game) could multipliers be add at parasite creation pages .., kind of long to do thjem one at the time when it come to canal / starfish / choker creation ...
Beta The Slave
Member
- Dec 2, 2022
- 261
- 171
- 168
You can swap into a male body in later chapters btw.God, I wish this game would let you stay male
Tatsubuki
Active Member
- Jan 18, 2019
- 578
- 848
- 204
Add to the fact that the art is pretty much souless.
Very disappointing. Dude has a super niche game lots of people would be willing to pay for a full complete version and he doesn't put the effort.
Honestly, I'm pretty against AI art for profit but like I've mentioned before with how this is a bit different. The dev said they would like to keep use the artist that's been make art for this game but they stop even responding to messages and any that can copy the style to a reasonable degree is outsode of the budget the dev has for the art. Like yeah, this a pretty niche situation but is understandable. And hey, if the AI art is actual dog shit then you can bet a lot more people will shit on it
Modeseven? Huh, wonder why they stopped responding, they still seems to be active
So apparently the dev is going to tear everything down and remake it for a uh....how many times is it now? I stopped counting after the like 5th one. Though this time with a bunch of ai "art" that is going to be a soulless attempt at replicating the games original art?
Honestly the ai art so far doesn't look that bad and they did mention they looked for a new artist but no one could match the quality and price they needed