Patreon alternative site.

[Catwashere]

Now the left aka Democrats are attacking Subscribestar and saying they are shutting down all sites that allow free speech so only Patreon is allowed. Goodbye porn games by the year 2020 all are gonna be shutdown by the left just like they shutdown Milo, Sargon, Jordan Peterson and incest game creators. I'm on twitter seeing some tweets about it and even Paul Joseph Watson tweeted about it along with Jordan Peterson saying that the left is not gonna allow new platforms and are calling banks to stop payments from these sites.

 

[gamersglory]

Alt-right and Alt-left are different then Porn. Their talk has actually lead to physical harm to people and violence. If anything porn should have a calming effect. I will ban all political fundraising of any kind on my platform. Then again our platform is only going to be doing adult content anyway. I never like politics mixing with my porn. At least

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is talking about banning political fundraising

 

[Catwashere]

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More stuff going on

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Damn the left is destroying Patreon even Minecraft creator is done with the site.
Looks like Jordan Peteron and others are making a new site and maybe a new paypal also. Minecraft creator and Peterson are pretty rich and can afford to do it. Let's hope Notch does help out with his 500 million dollars.

 

[Sam]

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Damn the left is destroying Patreon even Minecraft creator is done with the site.
Looks like Jordan Peteron and others are making a new site and maybe a new paypal also. Minecraft creator and Peterson are pretty rich and can afford to do it. Let's hope Notch does help out with his 500 million dollars.

1 crackpot who aligns themselves on the "left", doesn't mean it's the "left" who is responsible. Just like 1 right wing crackpot doesn't speak for all of the "right".

Please don't bring politics into this. Some people are just retarded, regardless of their political ideology.

 

[smnb]

Please don't bring politics into this.

It's like discussion about swimming where you can't mention water.

 

[j4yj4m]

It's like discussion about swimming where you can't mention water.

Those are still two different discussions. The whole "removing some political figures" thing is one thing and certainly political to a degree, the whole adult game discussion is more nuanced. In that case it's about corporate policies of paypal and other payment providers. Those companies may tolerate porn but there have always been occasional problems with the adult industry and adult vendors and when it comes to content that goes above "normal" porn, they seem to draw a line to avoid (legal) trouble. So the whole discussion really isn't new and patreon basically got caught up in it now - as will potential alternatives who want to work with those same payment providers.
That's why it doesn't really make sense to conflate those issues. Could one set up an alternative platform that supports some of those banned figures? Possibly, yes. But setting up a platform which at the same time solves the adult problems here is harder, so "their" alternative likely won't be "our" alternative.

 

[smnb]

..., they seem to draw a line to avoid (legal) trouble.

Legal trouble or bad publicity created by wannabe activists and self-proclaimed saviours of mankind, basically a form of bullying? I'd say this is common for both political figures and porn. The difference doesn't matter from business perspective, you don't want either. But it's really sad if it's the latter.

 

[j4yj4m]

Legal trouble or bad publicity created by wannabe activists and self-proclaimed saviours of mankind, basically a form of bullying?

In the adult industry it's indeed about legal troubles, hence they likely want this very clear line. Once we are talking about beastiality, underaged content, incest (which in reality is often related to abuse), etc. there's a significantly higher change that something is wrong somewhere and that some crime is involved. They rather lose a tiny fraction of their business but therefore avoid all those problems that could arise. And sure, that doesn't apply to fictional games at all but that's the reason for those policies and I'm afraid they won't change them anytime soon.

 

[HiEv]

Now the left aka Democrats are attacking Subscribestar

The Democrats are attacking SubscribeStar? What are you smoking?

FYI - The co-founder and CEO of Stripe,

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, is an Irish citizen. As such, he's neither a Democrat nor a Republican. The same goes for MasterCard's CEO,

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, who is Indian.

Visa's CEO (and former president of MasterCard), Alfred F. Kelly, Jr., on the other hand,

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. American Express' current CEO,

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, apparently leans Democrat, but also

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.

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PayPal's current CEO (and former president at American Express),

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.

So, out of those 5 people, 2 lean Democrat, 1 is Republican, and 2 are neither.

I really think you might want to check your facts in this little conspiracy theory of yours.

and saying they are shutting down all sites that allow free speech so only Patreon is allowed.

Source? Or is this just something you pulled out of your rather biased rectum?

Really, this problem comes from both sides. Some due to conservative religious reasons, others due to trying to protect people from potentially being exploited or denigrated.

I'm sorry, but no matter what political side you're on, you can find reasons both for and against censorship.

As such, you need to stop looking at this through the simplistic lens of politics, and realize that the real world is somewhat more nuanced than that.

Have a nice day!

 

[Catwashere]

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Another video on the topic of Patreon, I'll keep politics out of this forum and just let people watch these videos and decide what they think.

 

[Catwashere]

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Even more info.

 

[dexterul]

That's a very vague way of saying that porn, adult content, and etc could be a straight up no. Have you seen any adult content provider using the service yet? Between their payment partners and that line, I have to wonder if we'd even be welcome.

Animo with horse stuff is up and running ->>

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[DarthSeduction]

Animo with horse stuff is up and running ->>

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Subscribestar just lost their funding partners. No one is going there for a long time unless they can show us stability.

 

[dexterul]

Subscribestar just lost their funding partners. No one is going there for a long time unless they can show us stability.

I think Subscribestar will get the $$$, Peter J. wants to make his own Patreon

 

[Catwashere]

It keeps getting worse or better depending how you look it at, now people are targeting some top Patreon accounts and some of the top accounts closing and leaving.

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[freedom.call]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's getting worse.

 

[Catwashere]

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Her is a lawyer saying they may have broken trust laws.
Even PewDiePie is covering it

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.

 

[Catwashere]

Damn even more info is coming out and it looks bad for Patreon!

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[W65]

It's like discussion about swimming where you can't mention water.

It's like a discussion about swimming technique where a few folks keep bringing up the guys that they're sure are peeing in their local pool. The guys may or may not actually be peeing in the pool, and if they are it may or may not make it harder to swim correctly in said pool, but is it really germane to the discussion at large?

Disclaimer: I only skimmed the last page of the thread, so I might just be peeing in a pool here.

 

[Catwashere]

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The truth just keeps coming out and i think Paypal and Patreon are gonna get screwed.