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Patreon Is Hardening Their 'Adult Content' Guidelines. Discussion Thread

kongflcl

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So, I wonder what their stance would be on the game I am creating at the moment... The characters look under age but they aren't. They just have a genetic disorder that makes them look younger than they are. Would that be considered a banable offense? The game I'm making is called Forever Young, my patreon is rargames if you want to check out the main menu picture. Incest is an option in the game as well. I've been working tirelessly for many sleepless nights to get this game out there and now I come to find out that it might be for nothing at all!? Where the hell is the Larry Flint in this situation that builds a site like patreon for the adult minded devs? Obviously there is a trend for certain kinds of porn lately and people arevoicing there opinions by donating money to the games that feature such content. Who are they to say that its right or wrong? The owners of that site i guess but... still.
Make it, I'm begging you!!! Its exactly what I've been looking for.

Fuck censorship, and fuck Patreon. I know money is always an issue when creating, its why I gave up music. But don't let them kill your ideas. I'm sure there's other ways to crowdfund. Plumfund seems like a good alternative but I'm not sure? and you'll always have f95 for exposure.
 

DarthSeduction

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No more being banged by a doggy as you suck his master off :':)':)'(
I wouldn't be too worried about that. Most games that include Bestiality do so as a side feature anyways... its not a theme like incest. I can think of at least 2 projects that have both going on in their plans. Both are still on patreon for now.
 

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I wouldn't be too worried about that. Most games that include Bestiality do so as a side feature anyways... its not a theme like incest. I can think of at least 2 projects that have both going on in their plans. Both are still on patreon for now.
I was specifically speaking of Coceter Chronicles, which is supposedly removing bestiality. Thanks for the optimism though.

I never actively seek out bestiality or is a fetish of mine really, I just hate games that I love are being changed for the sake of censorship. And its a shame you have to worry about censorship in something as vulgar as adult gaming. Japan gets rape but with pixels, ehh, guess at least in the States we get genitalia
 

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I've started seeing some games adding a "step" in front of their incest games. I think the whole incest concept really picked up in part due to Jab Comix.
 

DarthSeduction

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They did the landlady thing because step is also technically not allowed. There's a post in here from someones contact chain with Patreon on the subject. Their goal seems to be to end the power dynamic issues related to incest as well as the incest itself. Personally though, I don't care, they aren't going to kill the genre, and maybe it will even out the Western gaming front so that we get more games like Good Girl Gone Bad or My Sweet Neighbors (I guess technically the planned threesome ending is incest, but it's not the focus.)

I'm a huge siscon, so I love the incest, but I also see the toxic affect of the industry being flooded with crap games.
 
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True, but even without the flood of incest games, there's plenty of shit and I feel like it'll always remain that way as a lot of ppl will just focus on "porn" aspects. Good Girl Gone Bad ruined me for a while because I couldn't find anything that measured to it. Its worth digging through all the trash for the gold though
 

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True, but even without the flood of incest games, there's plenty of shit and I feel like it'll always remain that way as a lot of ppl will just focus on "porn" aspects. Good Girl Gone Bad ruined me for a while because I couldn't find anything that measured to it. Its worth digging through all the trash for the gold though
Yeah, GGGB is probably one of the best out there. I'm really fond of I love Daddy too. At first it seems like a cliche daddy daughter story, but as you explore all the different branches it is actually one of the coolest games I've played. If I hadn't been sifting through the shit I never would have found it.
 

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Dark Silver ( ) has been suspended. Even tho it was a matter of time, it's still the most vocal suspension we had. That's probably it for incest on Patreon
 

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Doubtful. Big Brother wasn't that high of a quality. It might be the end for 25k a month inccest on patreon, but it won't kill it completely.

It would be nice though, if Dark Silver decided not to fight them and took his project to another platform. His exposure could be what we need to create an audience elsewhere.
 

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Doubtful. Big Brother wasn't that high of a quality. It might be the end for 25k a month inccest on patreon, but it won't kill it completely.
Ofc it won't kill it. Unless they will really want to which I doubt. But even tho BB isn't exactly good now it's still the most famous incest game on patreon. No real dev will make a game with it if he wants to have stable income so only small devs will remain. That's just my prediction but I find it very likely to happen.
 

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Ofc it won't kill it. Unless they will really want to which I doubt. But even tho BB isn't exactly good now it's still the most famous incest game on patreon. No real dev will make a game with it if he wants to have stable income so only small devs will remain. That's just my prediction but I find it very likely to happen.
What constitutes a real dev? I mean, my thoughts go straight to someone like Ptolemy, who has made one quality game already and is working on a second that I already like more. In both of them he's got incest content.
 
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Is anyone surprised BB got put under review? If DoD could be put under then it was highly likely BB would as well. I mean its already set up for a "land lord" situation if he wants to continue the project so I wouldn't be surprised if he did what Faerin did. I mean I doubt he is going to drop BB until his next project is almost ready for a demo. I would not be surprised if the reason he is under review is because someone reported him.
 

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What constitutes a real dev? I mean, my thoughts go straight to someone like Ptolemy, who has made one quality game already and is working on a second that I already like more. In both of them he's got incest content.
I used wrong words I guess. By real devs I meant professionals who can create games of higher quality and polished technical aspects. That's rare as hell but sooner or later such dev would appear - just like DS when he started. More ambitious devs just can't really use incest now if they wish to earn some decent cash. I have my fair share of respect for Ptolemy and many other devs but scale and lack of originality (in technical and plot aspects) of most games isn't on the same level as those of potential biggest devs. And I mean potential biggest devs. Among biggest devs we have now only BB and SS didn't depend on release time they had. BB was something fresh with its early gameplay and SS is original as it is.
 

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Hopefully this does lead to a better platform for developers. I have no love for BB but it still disgust me DS was suspended.

and I don't mean this as a troll or even to be confrontational, but what makes BB so fresh or gives DS so much potential as a dev? Outside of popularity.

I'm honestly confused bc its one of the worst games I've played, I've been thinking about revisiting it due to all the hype but I really don't see how it could be of such high quality.
 
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Hopefully this does lead to a better platform for developers. I have no love for BB but it still disgust me DS was suspended.

and I don't mean this as a troll or even to be confrontational, but what makes BB so fresh or gives DS so much potential as a dev? Outside of popularity.

I'm honestly confused bc its one of the worst games I've played, I've been thinking about revisiting it due to all the hype but I really don't see how it could be of such high quality.
For some of the popular games it was a matter of timing. BB and DoD started early with good renders. If BB was released now or a little bit ago it would not be racking in anywhere near the cash it does.
 

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I used wrong words I guess. By real devs I meant professionals who can create games of higher quality and polished technical aspects. That's rare as hell but sooner or later such dev would appear - just like DS when he started. More ambitious devs just can't really use incest now if they wish to earn some decent cash. I have my fair share of respect for Ptolemy and many other devs but scale and lack of originality (in technical and plot aspects) of most games isn't on the same level as those of potential biggest devs. And I mean potential biggest devs. Among biggest devs we have now only BB and SS didn't depend on release time they had. BB was something fresh with its early gameplay and SS is original as it is.
But that's just it... DS never did get all that technical. His render quality is higher than some of the smaller less skilled projects, but it's by no means a masterclass. He doesn't even have animations or quality writing. With the money his project was making he could have done something truly amazing. Instead he was making a basic gotta fuck'em'all with no substance beyond Eric, which people hated so much that he even made getting rid of him a simple task.

When you compare that to Ptolemy's Intimate Relations I don't see how DS is a higher class other than in money earned.
 
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But that's just it... DS never did get all that technical. His render quality is higher than some of the smaller less skilled projects, but it's by no means a masterclass. He doesn't even have animations or quality writing. With the money his project was making he could have done something truly amazing. Instead he was making a basic gotta fuck'em'all with no substance beyond Eric, which people hated so much that he even made getting rid of him a simple task.

When you compare that to Ptolemy's Intimate Relations I don't see how DS is a higher class other than in money earned.
I'm not saying that BB is a great game or even good game. In my opinion it's one of the worst games we have here. But it's mechanic was fresh and something new. He had insane potential in first couple of versions. Skills, open structure, different choices, time-frames, living house with real opponent. That was something new. We have a lot of games now who tried to copy his style but no one achieved that (Au Pair Innocence, School, Love, Cousins). I agree that IR is a better game now. It's just solid. But it's really simple game with same VN mechanic we have in most games. Amongst big 4 (DMD,DoD,BB and SS), DMD and DoD would struggle to reach 3K if they were released today as they're based only on a timing. BB would be popular even now because it become terrible later in game and early game is still fine and original. SS is original as hell so it would still achieve success. I don't wanna argue about superiority of BB cuz it's not superior. What I meant previous was that well done originality is a key, and ambitious developers won't risk being suspended cuz ambition requires higher funds.
 
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I think everyone can agree that the Eric story could have been better. Hell it could have been the story right there, but DS scraped it and now its just a grind and fuck game (not that that's entirely bad). Out of all the big games here that would still make it big DoD and SS are, in my opinion, the only ones. SS becauses its unique out of the big ones and DoD because the renders are well done and theres an actual story going on.