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Yes, I totally agree with you. But as I said, it is in the game (I meant the game in general so might be in the future and not the current version) and "not fully implemented" yet.
But the Dev and his team confirm that there'll be Incest planned in it.
If you're looking for something that contains penetration in the game, it might be a long journey for Patronus because they are focusing on the improvement of the system before continuing into the next Act for the moment
- Mar 18, 2020
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Somebody got a save for the new version? please
This file is 1 week available, i hope this not against the forum rules?
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Try`d to max out everything just by playing.
300K from the debt earned so far.
- May 9, 2017
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Progress Update / Poll
Our next update will fix a few small / cosmetic issues (like incorrect instructions in the hints) but will mainly focus on adding at least two new training sex scenes. We have enough content in art assets to 'finish' the training progression of at least one or two girls between now and February. ("Finish" includes acts through vaginal, does not include oral or anal - the highest resistances)
So, given that the next release (soon) and the release after (Jan/Feb) are aimed primarily at training content, I'd like to know what our players are most interested in.
There are literally at least 50 new features in our development queue, but some are more interesting than others and we'd like to get your input on them. So here are a few options / questions:
Our next update will fix a few small / cosmetic issues (like incorrect instructions in the hints) but will mainly focus on adding at least two new training sex scenes. We have enough content in art assets to 'finish' the training progression of at least one or two girls between now and February. ("Finish" includes acts through vaginal, does not include oral or anal - the highest resistances)
So, given that the next release (soon) and the release after (Jan/Feb) are aimed primarily at training content, I'd like to know what our players are most interested in.
There are literally at least 50 new features in our development queue, but some are more interesting than others and we'd like to get your input on them. So here are a few options / questions:
- RenPy does not allow the loading of an old save file when the underlying data structures change. This means a new save file for every version with updated data structures. Most RenPy games don't have this problem because their data structures are very minimal. Ours is quite significant. This means a new playthrough for each new version. One thing we could do is write a completely custom save importer, but this is a shit-ton of work and it would delay the content releases of the game. How important is this to you?
- We are planning on adding a cheat menu. How important is this to you?
- Girls will not perform anal or oral until after you unlock their loyalty quests. Each girl has three levels of loyalty. How important is it to you to see anal and oral content for each girl - should it be right away or are you willing to wait?
- Parties and festivals are kinda-sorta designed and implemented. How important are orgies and socializing to you?
- Combat is ready to integrate. Do you care? Does it interest you to have night encounters to solve quests - which might expose you to a risk of combat?
- How important is it to you to explore the 'dark' path of the criminal underworld with Zenobarbus?
- How important to you is seducing Charis and cuckolding or murdering her husband?
A better guide would be great, been playing for awhile on this save now and I'm not sure if I've reached the end of the content or not. Last thing I did was complete the Fasti quest and since then just been grinding rhetoric and social for at least an hour. Not sure if it's possible to to complete any of the main quest branches. Tried to find a patron in the baths for awhile, all I get is rumors that seem useless. Also no idea if any of the items I purchased have any actual use. Another thing is Alfidia autobuy seems to be bugged, she buys way more than is needed.
Of the listed things, they all sound good. I think what is most lacking in the game right now though is clarity on how to progress. Why are clients unhappy with great service? Because of alfidia's poor management skills? I hired the tutor for her but the stat increase seems to trigger randomly and there is no way to see how far she has progressed. Is there any point at all to socializing in the baths or am I wasting my time?
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- A walkthrough would be cool, we've been hoping that someone from the player community would step up to build one.
- Alfidia autobuy is based on her management skill. She's shitty to start, either buying too little and having to make it up at a higher price during the week, or too much and it's wasted. She gets better over time.
- Client satisfaction is based on a series of things:
- Quality of the girl's service
- Quality of the food and drink served
- Quality of the bordello management
- Safety+Security in the bordello
- Quality of surroundings
- (forgot to add) Health and happiness of the girls providing service. Recent beatings reduce quality.
- Baths are borked at the moment, ignore social for a release or two
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1. That is absolutely not needed, while the game can be grindy the next point you said fixes this.
2. The cheat menu you mentioned would allow people to breeze through the parts they've already been through. Only thing that it must have is changeable values for girl's stats so you don't have to grind their stats up and a way to "jump" to story events.
3. I think those scenes should come as the game's story progresses, their utter loyalty is not needed until the high value patrons are made who they can "spy" and "infuencence".
4. If it progresses the story and helps further's the main character's influence then go for it.
5. Combat right now would either just make things more tedious or be boring, if you implement combat then there should also be story missions that require combat to complete. Maybe the main character could start a gladiatoral/soldier training school or help a Domina *wink* *wink* train her gladiators for another side way of making money since he is a veteran with experience I presume.
6. If it furthers the story, yes.
7. Most of us have been awaiting progression with Charis for a long time, I'd love to see this expanded upon but the main story is more important.
This game is amazing, everything about it is quality. The art is 10/10, I can count on my fingers the amount of games with art that is up to par with this game's. The systems are well thought out and nicely implemented.
What I think the next priority should be is finishing the current slave girl's basic training scenes and progress with Charis' seduction quest and after those are done furthering the story would be top priority in my opinion. The main character has had 0% progress with actually becoming a notable person so I think working on the main story line is much needed as we are still in the same spot since release.
As a side note, I think the current slave girls, as the story progresses, should become the main character's personal slaves and the brothel given generic randomly generated slave girls using the main slave girl's art as template (different face, hair, skin colour, etc.) which can be bought from the slave market. These unimportant slave girls should be really easy to train and are willing to do everything from the get-go.
The only thing this game needs is marketing, maybe try putting this up on Steam? Of course the questionable content such as incest should be implemented with a patch to avoid getting taken down.
I love this project and I think many others aswell, I wish the best for the dev team and your loyalty to the project is admirable with so many half-assed games being left in the dust unfinished after a few updates.
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I think the random generated girls should should play a significant part in the game's training portion rather than being throwaways. What if you like the skin color/hair combination and traits of the girl more than you do the story characters? I would suggest for them to be given their own custom unique traits which affect their selling price. For example more expensive girls have more attractive faces (sort of like in Porn Empire) and are more likely to be sold as virgins for extra cost.
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- Custom save importer: seams luxury to me, when there is so much more you could work on atm.
(like more Quests, more in game help about the in game mechanics, stuff like you mentioned about the Client sanctification.
- Cheats: kinda ruin games for me, because without struggle there is no worth in it, i have no real problem with starting all over as long the updates contain enough new content, to start all over for small patches makes not much sense to me.
-Girls new content: for me there is kinda an inflation risk. If all Girls could do the same, they lose a lot unique features,
i think each slave should work like a specialist, lets say you can only train one skill to the max, and with that earn the most currency. If every girl can do everything the same good, that`s kinda ruin the RP aspect for me.
The loyalty levels are great idea, and i did the "free the Brother Quests" even if it took quite a while, it brings the most Joy, to unlock new skills this way, because you build up a connection to the slave. This makes the game great into my Eyes.
So ofc. i can wait for this because the Role Play aspect and in game dept profits a lot from this.
This should be the real "Main Quest line" besides what the MC achieves in good old Rom.
-Parties and festivals: super cool for RP aspects and kinda unique selling points, because i never saw stuff like this in other games i see here huge potential. They could bring new side quests f.e. So really looking forward to it, i would like to see a deeper socializing structure, maybe characters could have 3 Quest and you get access to the first after basic socializing, then after an orgy you learn more about the real nature of the client what open up some nice or evil side quests, decision making...
-Combat: i like this RP wise a lot, how about you could train 1 slave to lure AI Characters you meet after socializing into the bushes to either attack them and rob them or to earn some currency.
The normal "action combat system" is not really interesting for me without any form of RP in it. Because many many games have that and most only that. It`s getting repetitive and boring quite fast into my Eyes at least without any sort of extra content.
-Dark Path: like i said RP aspects are really charming and captivating for me so i would love to have a "good" or "bad" Option, if this comes with a Zeno Sidequest line, ya that sounds great, players would have the feeling of more personal individuality.
But this sounds kinda costly time-wise.
-Charis: this could complete the circle Quest wise, you start innocent and get or get not corrupted story-wise in Rom, to do the same to your dear sister in the End. But ya i can wait for that. It should be the Endgame Content into my Eyes and only available after you complete the "Dark Path" with Zeno, what should be only available if you treat the slaves bad as well^^
So ya consequences can be the spice in game but atm, i feel like the Game needs a bit more polish on "how to get started".
Should i earn money with court cases, should i level my trading skills? or just pimp my girls at the brothel? what about the farms? all this could be connected more or less with the "dark" or "bright" path of the Game, but atm, most of those features don`t work. So what i am trying to say is, atm you do all those things because you think it`s for the money, so one looks the same like the other...but there should be more to it. For that you would need more clarity in the game i think.
That`s all for now.
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1. Save system: I don't mind save system that much. Actually i do care but fixing will consume too much time for you, so i did choose more content
2. Cheat: Normally i don't like using cheat on menagement games, but we have save problem so i think it's necessary.
3. Anal and Oral: I don't say; i want now or later but these actions need their own quest line, thats for sure.
4. Orgies and festivals: If you can bring these contents with good story, i'm absolutly down. But if its gonna be fuckfest without any good plots and dialogues; no i don't want that at all.
5. I love combat systems. But it needs to effect other quests. I dont wanna grind my combat stats just for street sleep.
For example:
--Quest: Kidnnaped Charis
----They want ranson pay that i can never pay. They left me one choice.
For rescue Charis we need to have good amount of Martial skills, armour, men, weapons.
To implement this you have to have some workable combat mechanic. I have some good combat ideas if you like this advice.
6. "Dark" path: I have no opinion right now
7. Charis: You know my stand on this. I WANT CHARIS
2. Cheat: Normally i don't like using cheat on menagement games, but we have save problem so i think it's necessary.
3. Anal and Oral: I don't say; i want now or later but these actions need their own quest line, thats for sure.
4. Orgies and festivals: If you can bring these contents with good story, i'm absolutly down. But if its gonna be fuckfest without any good plots and dialogues; no i don't want that at all.
5. I love combat systems. But it needs to effect other quests. I dont wanna grind my combat stats just for street sleep.
For example:
--Quest: Kidnnaped Charis
----They want ranson pay that i can never pay. They left me one choice.
For rescue Charis we need to have good amount of Martial skills, armour, men, weapons.
To implement this you have to have some workable combat mechanic. I have some good combat ideas if you like this advice.
6. "Dark" path: I have no opinion right now
7. Charis: You know my stand on this. I WANT CHARIS
I want Marcus to have a say in where Ionus stays - First because he is "just" a slave, second because I have no interest in him hanging out as a useless +1 at the bordello.
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And a function to reset/raise supplies other then by clicking a thousand times on + or -
Let the player enter numbers.
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The problem with a new save for each version.
Well, that's a big one with such a grind heavy game - you will annoy a lot of people, if you can't at least transfer most of the old stats that are still in the new version. Check out how Holiday Island does it. I'm pretty sure that game has a complex data structure as well and still old saves get converted once loaded with a newer version...
Money, skills, virtues, etc are just numbers, so I don't really see an argument for why they can't get converted.
Quests that stay the same > quest status gets copied, Quests that got changed, but still exist > If finished by the player: keep the fruits of labor, if they got only partially completed: reset them. Shouldn't be to complicated *shrug*.
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And a function to reset/raise supplies other then by clicking a thousand times on + or -
Let the player enter numbers.
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The problem with a new save for each version.
Well, that's a big one with such a grind heavy game - you will annoy a lot of people, if you can't at least transfer most of the old stats that are still in the new version. Check out how Holiday Island does it. I'm pretty sure that game has a complex data structure as well and still old saves get converted once loaded with a newer version...
Money, skills, virtues, etc are just numbers, so I don't really see an argument for why they can't get converted.
Quests that stay the same > quest status gets copied, Quests that got changed, but still exist > If finished by the player: keep the fruits of labor, if they got only partially completed: reset them. Shouldn't be to complicated *shrug*.
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Does anyone have a full list of quests? Not sure if I'm grinding stats towards anything anymore, or if I've already completed all available content.
Well, even when you start a new game with the latest version - you will run into exceptional error bugs: in court when you reach a high enough rhetoric skill (~70 for me), similar error with the slave training once Fasti started to like nudity (high affinity).
I see this a nice demo if you can stand the grind. We will see what the future holds...
I see this a nice demo if you can stand the grind. We will see what the future holds...
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