Stil996

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you also need to fuck Maghda for Edgar to begin selling clothes and you need pregnancy clothes for Erevi to unlock restore the temple
yeah, but that first fuck isn't really optional, you are essentially raped as part of Edgars opening quest. Any idea what triggers his potion sales? for me it always seems to follow the temple being opened, though I think that might be the first time I tend to visit him after the initial quest is for the priestess robes.
 
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yeah, but that first fuck isn't really optional, you are essentially raped as part of Edgars opening quest. Any idea what triggers his potion sales? for me it always seems to follow the temple being opened, though I think that might be the first time I tend to visit him after the initial quest is for the priestess robes.
I found out Edgar sells potions during "stolen tools"
 

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I found out Edgar sells potions during "stolen tools"
Straight away??? I mean sure you "recover" one Phallas G from his shipment during stolen tools, but it takes a while after that for a fresh shipment to arrive doesn't it?? After Ziva has taught it to you at least... right??
 

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Straight away??? I mean sure you "recover" one Phallas G from his shipment during stolen tools
I think you mean "The Peddler's Fate," where you recover that heavy-ass trunk. "Stolen Tools" happens during Waystones II.
but it takes a while after that for a fresh shipment to arrive doesn't it?? After Ziva has taught it to you at least... right??
Apparently not. Once you make your own potion(s) Edgar sells them the next time you click on his counter instead of going straight to the outfits, even if it's the same day. I've had it as early as Day 15 or so, can almost certainly be sooner if you skip some of the other Side stuff.
 
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I think you mean "The Peddler's Fate," where you recover that heavy-ass trunk. "Stolen Tools" happens during Waystones II.
Probably, I never paid a lot of attention to quest names, I rarely ever look at that screen unless I'm really stuck for ideas on how to progress.

Apparently not. Once you make your own potion(s) Edgar sells them the next time you click on his counter instead of going straight to the outfits, even if it's the same day. I've had it as early as Day 15 or so, can almost certainly be sooner if you skip some of the other Side stuff.
What potions do you know that don't require Ziva?? thats the point I was making, this line of thought spawned from me commenting to a poster that there were 3 girls who acted like gatekeepers to the rest #42,530, so these where the 3 I always unlock first and any time there was a lull those were generally the ones I focus on progressing to find new content.
And it got me thinking about what changes might have happened that might have rendered that opinion untrue or inaccurate
 

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What potions do you know that don't require Ziva??
Just Spirit potions from Makith, which requires knocking up Shakala. Caleah shows you Ward vs Infection and Adaobi for Blood potions, but you need Ziva first for them. And perfumes need an alchemy station but again Ziva happens before those. Technically special pastries could be a "potion", they're inventoried with them, but they're not liquid...
 
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Just Spirit potions from Makith, which requires knocking up Shakala. Caleah shows you Ward vs Infection and Adaobi for Blood potions, but you need Ziva first for them. And perfumes need an alchemy station but again Ziva happens before those. Technically special pastries could be a "potion", they're inventoried with them, but they're not liquid...
yup, though I think you missed the point I was trying to make, that you need Ziva first before Edgar sells his potions...
you couldn't ignore the Witch quest and just buy Phallus G from Edgar to fuck Frida first, or get Barreness for Victoria etc.
 

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yup, though I think you missed the point I was trying to make, that you need Ziva first before Edgar sells his potions...
I did, because you were literally replying to my post saying the MC needed to use the Chalice before Edgar sells them. Not sure why you wanted to make that point all over again to me...
 

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I did, because you were literally replying to my post saying the MC needed to use the Chalice before Edgar sells them. Not sure why you wanted to make that point all over again to me...
it's cyclical, you say I was replying to your post, I'd say you were replying in previously established conversation where I was trying to ascertain specific information. I was just trying to making sure the point was still on topic :p... it felt like it was wandering a bit but I wasn't sure.
 

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it's cyclical, you say I was replying to your post, I'd say you were replying in previously established conversation where I was trying to ascertain specific information. I was just trying to making sure the point was still on topic :p... it felt like it was wandering a bit but I wasn't sure.
Fair. :)
 

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  1. Jumping into a conversation to complain about a post without taking into context the previous posts in that conversation is dumb enough, but to continue the same idiotic argument even when it's been pointed out boggles my mind. I clearly stated my reasoning and demonstrated it with three lists. there isn't much more I can do.
  2. Do you know what "IMO" means?? You clearly quoted it"" (FYI IMO = In My Opinion ) In your opinion she and her fellow goblins aren't worthwhile in MINE she is. What's next? Do you want to argue that your favourite colour is better than mine?? She is a gatekeeper whether you like the goblin content or not. She IS required to get certain content AND She doesn't require a previous girl to be progressed before she can be unlocked in this function...Deal with it.
  3. I clearly placed a "?" on Frida, I knew her giving birth was locked behind waystone but couldn't remember if any other blocks were in place, regardless since the content of those who follow her are blocked behind her giving birth, then she isn't a root gatekeeper like Erevi, Ziva and SHAKALA. I'll let you look up "?" in your own time, I've wasted enough time on this.

The only one I'm not certain of is whether Liandra is locked behind one of the others or not.
"Do you know what "IMO" means??"

You do know that people can disagree with your opinion? This is a public Forum. You said that these were the most important things you can do early in the game. I'm saying I don't really agree beause she doesn't gate keep you like Ziva does. I explained this too you like 3 different times and you feel the need to go a rant just because you're in love with the goblin npcs.


I don't care whether or not yu like the goblin npcs. I only even brought up that I didn't like them because you just shitted on Frida. You called my point idotic but can't seem to realize that the entire reason I replied was because I was saying I disagree with you and that your comment felt like you were suggesting they rush to do the content you like best when there's other stuff they can do instead of they prefer. That was my whole point.


Comments like this is why I wish we still had the face palm. The only reason why this is even an argument at all is because you took offense to me saying it wasn't important
 
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"Do you know what "IMO" means??"

You do know that people can disagree with your opinion? This is a public Forum. You said that these were the most important things you can do early in the game. I'm saying I don't really agree beause she doesn't gate keep you like Ziva does. I explained this too you like 3 different times and you feel the need to go a rant just because you're in love with the goblin npcs.


I don't care whether or not yu like the goblin npcs. I only even brought up that I didn't like them because you just shitted on Frida.
Tell it to someone else, I've already explained my position as clearly as I could (multiple times), I'm done with trying to talk to you. Nothing is stopping you from offering a contrary opinion to the person I was advising. bye now.
 

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Tell it to someone else, I've already explained my position as clearly as I could (multiple times), I'm done with trying to talk to you. Nothing is stopping you from offering a contrary opinion to the person I was advising. bye now.
That's literally what I was doing and you got offended. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you don't post on public forums
 

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That's literally what I was doing and you got offended. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you don't post on public forums
then you need to learn a few more things
  1. What "literally" means
  2. Learn how to quote people, hitting reply to my post sends me a notification that you are responding to me, it does NOT send the OP a notification if you care about him seeing your post at least tag him in... who wants to bet he hasn't seen anything you've written.
  3. Trying to argue with people that your preference is better than their preference isn't a discussion.
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For the benefit of anyone who came late to this, it started here, #42,522, here #42,524 and continued here #42,530 where Storm apparently got affronted by my inclusion of Shakala as a gatekeeper... read it at your own peril :p
 

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then you need to learn a few more things
  1. What "literally" means
  2. Learn how to quote people, hitting reply to my post sends me a notification that you are responding to me, it does NOT send the OP a notification if you care about him seeing your post at least tag him in... who wants to bet he hasn't seen anything you've written.
  3. Trying to argue with people that your preference is better than their preference isn't a discussion.
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For the benefit of anyone who came late to this, it started here, #42,522, here #42,524 and continued here #42,530 where Storm apparently got affronted by my inclusion of Shakala as a gatekeeper... read it at your own peril :p

Again this is a public forum, and people are reading the pages, as my comment is directly under yours and linked to yours people seeing your comment will also see my comment and understand the context by the quote.


Nobody is trying to argue which preference is better. I explained to you want my intentions were several times now and you're still trying to argue about it despite being "done" with the conversation. Like I said before I don't care what your opinion was. I was tacking on to your suggestion with the idea that they shouldn't feel rushed to do that content as there are other stuff to do early game as well. Since your comment was suggesting that this was essential content

Most of the content in the game happens as a result of progressing these three women, (Erevi and Ziva mostly) almost all the other women require something one of those two will teach you.


I don't understand what your problem is. "You don't have to if you don't want to or want to put it off" is literally all I was saying. You seem to have taken offense just because she's one of your favorites and no other reason.
 

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Again this is a public forum, and people are reading the pages, as my comment is directly under yours and linked to yours people seeing your comment will also see my comment and understand the context by the quote.


Nobody is trying to argue which preference is better. I explained to you want my intentions were several times now and you're still trying to argue about it despite being "done" with the conversation. Like I said before I don't care what your opinion was. I was tacking on to your suggestion with the idea that they shouldn't feel rushed to do that content as there are other stuff to do early game as well. Since your comment was suggesting that this was essential content





I don't understand what your problem is. "You don't have to if you don't want to or want to put it off" is literally all I was saying. You seem to have taken offense just because she's one of your favorites and no other reason.
FYI Shakala isn't a particular favourite.

I don't get pissed when people disagree with me and definitely not over a character in a porn game, I get pissed when I feel like people don't read what they are arguing against and aren't basing their posts on reason. Frankly I'm feeling trolled

BUT... I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume we have had an innocent case of crossed wires.

Time to drop the subject, to take a step back, chill out and move on. Please respect this and drop it too.
 
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