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I mean I wouldn't put it past someone to look into magical enhancements. Jenny mentions a healer in the Elven Realm who can apparently fix Barreness. But even then as shown with the Enhanced Fertility potions its 1) Not a guaranteed everytime & 2) Very difficult to procure enough of ALL ingredients on a mass reproducible scale.

I would assume other such Enhancments would be just as difficult or more so to put together on mass.
The Elven healer is supposed to use magic, while we are useing potions.
There is a fair market for the normal fertility Potions, aswell as Potions of bareness (Alice supposed to be husband made her drink one each day until the marriage) and our tailor friend can import them from some unknown alchemist.
Theresia required indepth knowlegde, a great funding and quiet some time to produce the enchanted fertility Potion... and her motivation was to outshine any former member of Qetesh.
So in short noone knows it's possible to improve the formular, there is no demand because of that and to develope the recipe without the original would be far to costly.

tl:dr there are alternatives to the potions but the enchanted formular seems to be unique... I mean not even Zivah demands to know the formular after learning the MC managed to impregnate everyone in the temple with that potion.
 
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The Elven healer is supposed to use magic, while we are useing potions.
There is a fair market for the normal fertility Potions, aswell as Potions of bareness (Alice supposed to be husband made her drink one each day until the marriage) and our tailor friend can import them from some unknown alchemist.
Theresia required indepth knowlegde, a great funding and quiet some time to produce the enchanted fertility Potion... and her motivation was to outshine any former member of Qetesh.
So in short noone knows it's possible to improve the formular, there is no demand because of that and to develope the recipe without the original would be far to costly.

tl:dr there are alternatives to the potions but the enchanted formular seems to be unique... I mean not even Zivah demands to know the formular after learning the MC managed to impregnate everyone in the temple with that potion.
It never states she uses magic. Just that shes a healer. Potions are essentially magic let's be honest. Also the Fertility Potions & Barreness Potions were creations of the Qeteshians used/distributed by their priestesses. Most likley Edgar gets his supply from an old priestess or someone that learnt the recipe from one at least. Also why would Ziva demand to know the formula, she has read it herself that's how she cought MC in the first place. She would already know it.

Also wasent Alice's husband it was her dad that made her take the potions cos he knew he couldn't keep an eye on her 24/7.
 

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It never states she uses magic. Just that shes a healer. Potions are essentially magic let's be honest. Also the Fertility Potions & Barreness Potions were creations of the Qeteshians used/distributed by their priestesses. Most likley Edgar gets his supply from an old priestess or someone that learnt the recipe from one at least. Also why would Ziva demand to know the formula, she has read it herself that's how she cought MC in the first place. She would already know it.

Also wasent Alice's husband it was her dad that made her take the potions cos he knew he couldn't keep an eye on her 24/7.
She read the information found in Theresias diary, which only states that the formular excists, that note made us search for the recipe in the still scoldering remains of that caravan in the first place.
But it doesn't contain any details about the required ingredients and their concentration, that's all in the recipe, which is unknown to her.
We don't know where Edgar gets his Potions from exactly, but we know that Qeteshians priestess affected by the curse were widely considered witches... Zivah said so right after she turned... about how she had to move and liive in hiding because of that.
Magic is bad is the common human agenda... I don't recall hearing about a human mage before in the game.
There is a chance that humans found the formulars for the normal fertility and bareness Potions... heck even the horecock potion in one of the abondened qeteshen temples and considering it's value for different parts of society alchemists started to craft them
 

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She read the information found in Theresias diary, which only states that the formular excists, that note made us search for the recipe in the still scoldering remains of that caravan in the first place.
But it doesn't contain any details about the required ingredients and their concentration, that's all in the recipe, which is unknown to her.
We don't know where Edgar gets his Potions from exactly, but we know that Qeteshians priestess affected by the curse were widely considered witches... Zivah said so right after she turned... about how she had to move and liive in hiding because of that.
Magic is bad is the common human agenda... I don't recall hearing about a human mage before in the game.
There is a chance that humans found the formulars for the normal fertility and bareness Potions... heck even the horecock potion in one of the abondened qeteshen temples and considering it's value for different parts of society alchemists started to craft them
Yeah but as Priestesses they were probably treated with more respect. They were sexual servants of a fertility goddess. They help people & dosent hurt they are all gorgeous women willing to fu... I mean enact services in their Goddesses name.

But human nature is a hypercritical one. After the priestesses became hideous old Hags that no one wanted to fuck? Well shes making potions shes a witch! Sadly this is an actual factor of life. The old & ugly are usually demonized even if they are goo people with pure intentions. While attractive people get away with more BECAUSE they are attractive.


You see it in real life with serial killers & murderes if the person in attractive enough they get sympathy from people watching, they get lighter sentences or even found not guilty. Heck their are those teen fanclubs who stand outside protesting the death penalty of serial rapist killers because hes handsome.



Essentially there not witches becaus they make potions. There witches cos there old & ugly...
 

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Going back to goblin girls, according to Tinkerer, the only thing stopping other goblins from raping them asap, are their mothers that protect them in their younger years.
 

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A few people have brought up how theres "too many women who want us to sleep at theres. I cant keep up"

I feel its gonna get worse before it gets better...

My theories for the girls:
Gwynneth I think wont care as long as MC is paying alimony shes happy.
Beth will want MC around.
Hilde is a 50/50 I think. Most likley her competitive nature will have her want MC around more because she wants to be better than Frida...
Maghda might want MC to be around. If Dolf remains in the picture then it wont be a problem but if we get rid of him she might want someone who WONT neglect her needs.
Vixenatrix is a Dragon so I reckon she wont be clingy like others.

•The New Goblin for this next update will probs be like Sequoia, the bigger the population the happier she is.
Cowgirl will (hopfully) be more like the BatBreeder so her affection will need to be raised & possible payments will need to be made, but pretty easy to keep happy.
 
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Going back to goblin girls, according to Tinkerer, the only thing stopping other goblins from raping them asap, are their mothers that protect them in their younger years.
This actually makes sense. The mothers probably got trained by their mothers & then in later years had to fend for themselves. This creating a strong mind & skill set from a young start. Especially if said female is already a Chiefs 1st mate, dont wanna piss off the boss...


Also mothers in real life are scary. Ever see one lift a car off her baby? I have its fucking terrifying. Dont mess with mamma Goblins!
 

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Zivah said so right after she turned... about how she had to move and liive in hiding because of that.
she couldn't just say she was a priestess of Quetesh, people would think she's trying to scam them and do acoordingly, she also had to hide from possible remnants of the nergalites. also having to re-awaken Quetesh by establishing the temple demanded her survival so she couldn't take chances except when necessary.
 

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Cowgirl will (hopfully) be more like the BatBreeder so her affection will need to be raised & possible payments will need to be made, but pretty easy to keep happy.
I feer she might be the most clingy having lost both parents and being very young..
Vixenatrix is a Dragon so I reckon she wont be clingy like others.
maybe she won't, but the dragonling might want to spend time with MC and if the peasant doesn't vist, the kid would fly and wreck havock (like burning a field)
 
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I feer she might be the most clingy having lost both parents and being very young..

maybe she won't, but the dragonling might want to spend time with MC and if the peasant doesn't vist, the kid would fly and wreck havock (like burning a field)
that is if the little fire spitter isn't looking human as most dragonkin/Half dragons do.
considering Dragons mature alot longer than other races there is also a good chance that the child will remain a baby for the rest of the MCs live (would certainly reduce the workload for Tinkerer aswell)
 
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that is if the little fire spitter isn't looking human as most dragonkin/Half dragons do.
considering Dragons mature alot longer than other races there is also a good chance that the child will remain a baby for the rest of the MCs live (would certainly reduce the workload for Tinkerer aswell)
Well this is all basing our assumptions that
1) Dragons dont play by the rule of Goblins & are born with superior genetics. Essentially being pure dragons. In which case their humanoid form would be the same magicaly induced shapeshift as their mother.
2) That a daughter is 100% in the cards. Tinkerer has made it very clear that SpecialDaughters will only exist if they have an actual story based reason for being born. The Succubus has to give birth to a special being while he needed more Goblin production so a daughter just made sense. Unless their is a GAME or STORY based reason for it their is a very low chance he will add one (as he is already having to hide content for 3 girl behind a seperate patch & would rather avoid Patreon's ire)
3) If he decides to do infinite births like Goblins, Familiar or Vampires then they may mature at a quick rate. In which case they may leave the nest & "disapear" from the map to find their own lairs. Gotta remeber dragons aren't very "warm" or "affectionate". Mating is an act of survival for the species they usually prefer to be alone & the young will be kept alive until they have to find their own place to live. So he may go that route instead.


We will only really know when we get an update for Vix.
 

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I feer she might be the most clingy having lost both parents and being very young...
True but she may not need MC to SLEEP in the barn with her. Just visit often & see hows shes doing. Like with BatBreeder & Venomina.

-BatBreeder just needs u to pay for better accomidations & food. Fuck her good & give her freedom to move around.
-Venomina just needs to be fed often.

So the Cowgirl could just need some attention from MC every few days. Not necessarily have him sleep with her tho.
 

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1) Dragons dont play by the rule of Goblins & are born with superior genetics. Essentially being pure dragons. In which case their humanoid form would be the same magicaly induced shapeshift as their mother.
I think the shapeshifting requires observing humans to have a more accurate shape. so if the dragonling were to spend lots of time with the peasant, the transformed form might be more humane.
 

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Never thought I'd say this but the game is getting too big. Try starting a fresh game to understand what context I'm speaking in. Sadly people are asking for more characters (myself included which I'll stop for now but I will debate future ones to add). Characters like Gwen, Beth, and Mia are getting firmly left behind plus some of storylines (to me) have been left dangling for awhile eg
Caleah - rebuild the swamp village after all her kids can't come or human, right?
Bat cave - Become Alpha,
Cemetery - King of the Dead
Sequoia - Rebuild her village (same all her kids can't be big goblins)
Plus a few more things like upgrading paths of the town as Mayor (he knows what surrounds the town)
Maghda
I think we all can see there is alot of room for expansion but there is a lot unfinished points going forward while the game expands also. This is definitely the biggest game world of all the games being developed for me.
 

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Well this is all basing our assumptions that
1) Dragons dont play by the rule of Goblins & are born with superior genetics. Essentially being pure dragons. In which case their humanoid form would be the same magicaly induced shapeshift as their mother.
2) That a daughter is 100% in the cards. Tinkerer has made it very clear that SpecialDaughters will only exist if they have an actual story based reason for being born. The Succubus has to give birth to a special being while he needed more Goblin production so a daughter just made sense. Unless their is a GAME or STORY based reason for it their is a very low chance he will add one (as he is already having to hide content for 3 girl behind a seperate patch & would rather avoid Patreon's ire)
3) If he decides to do infinite births like Goblins, Familiar or Vampires then they may mature at a quick rate. In which case they may leave the nest & "disapear" from the map to find their own lairs. Gotta remeber dragons aren't very "warm" or "affectionate". Mating is an act of survival for the species they usually prefer to be alone & the young will be kept alive until they have to find their own place to live. So he may go that route instead.


We will only really know when we get an update for Vix.
I suspect Tinkerer will add some mini dragons flying around the cave at most.
I can't consider a story where you'd need an army of dragons... one fully grown one can easily take out most of the hostile armies at this point... or do you think those "legendary" knights could have stand a chance against Vixxenatrix?
I think the shapeshifting requires observing humans to have a more accurate shape. so if the dragonling were to spend lots of time with the peasant, the transformed form might be more humane.
rather unlikely... as Vixxenatrix did confirm Dragons have a genetical memory... which means they are born with their mothers experiences.
Caleah - rebuild the swamp village after all her kids can't come or human, right?
Not sure why none human kids couldn't stay at the temple... but this sounds like a fun idea atleast.
Sequoia - Rebuild her village (same all her kids can't be big goblins)
This could be dangerous as she sometimes still detest the MC... haveing another midget rebellion to crush sounds like a hassle :devilish:
Cemetery - King of the Dead
Of the mindless zombies that attack you again as soon as the 3 sisters left the vicinity?
 
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I have completed the dragon lair mission ages ago and don't remember if I got the key or not. Rosie told me about her boyfriend too. Am I fucked? It's really annoying to have missable quests in a porn game if that's the case.
return to the lair and ask Vixenatrx to lift you up
 
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There will have to be a change in the game mechanism eventually to keep all the woman happy.
1) A central place where he could invite them to stay so he can move room to room rather than map to map to attend to all of them in a reasonable time frame.
2)Nannies to watch the kids while their mothers are gone, maybe the older kids can do that.
3)Another is free roam for the mothers meaning they can start leaving their locations and unexpectedly show up wherever he is. That can lead to a) a partner in the current quest b) fun time maybe an Orgy.
4) This is impossible to me a new map with a metropolis where entire populations are mixed
 

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It never states she uses magic. Just that shes a healer. Potions are essentially magic let's be honest. Also the Fertility Potions & Barreness Potions were creations of the Qeteshians used/distributed by their priestesses. Most likley Edgar gets his supply from an old priestess or someone that learnt the recipe from one at least. Also why would Ziva demand to know the formula, she has read it herself that's how she cought MC in the first place. She would already know it.

Also wasent Alice's husband it was her dad that made her take the potions cos he knew he couldn't keep an eye on her 24/7.
No potions are not magic. You have to have magical ability to cast a spell but potions are a science that allow non magical beings to get the same results without using magic.
 

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No potions are not magic. You have to have magical ability to cast a spell but potions are a science that allow non magical beings to get the same results without using magic.
alchemy was seen as magic, and the potions require ingredients magical in nature.
 
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