Thinks it's like 90 obedience? You know u can punish more than once a day. Just leave & enter the space shes in until she is is the "messed up" position on the floor & punish accordingly. Then repeat.How I can make Alice join the mass? Like How many obedience points she needs?
The only one I can think of that allows/encourages that is Oksana, the rest will just cut content or force you to grind relationship points for an hour just to interact with them again. In some scenes like Erevi's first anal scene give you that dominant control but otherwise the women in this game are the assertive ones.Is it possible to play this properly in a dominant/asshole way (without losing content)
Well some girls are submissive (Mia, Rosy, Oksana, Sequoia & (once fully domesticated) Bat Breeder).Is it possible to play this properly in a dominant/asshole way (without losing content), I really hate submissive MC's, it's like nails on a chalkboard everytime someone calls me toy/slave/pet/thrall etc (Though atleast they aren't calling me thrall anymore). One of the things that drew me in were all the "asshole" options at the beginning, it would be a real shame if those were nothing more than bait for bad ends (or "bad setbacks" rather, since there don't seem to be to many real bad ends in this game).
Really nice game though despite the submissive lean of the MC, really love the general flow of the story and almost all the character models; Erevi, Rosy, Adaob and the Batbreeders in particular
The thing is most don't seem don't particulary Dom, but bulk feel like they should be open to displays of strength, blackmail or power.The only one I can think of that allows/encourages that is Oksana, the rest will just cut content or force you to grind relationship points for an hour just to interact with them again. In some scenes like Erevi's first anal scene give you that dominant control but otherwise the women in this game are the assertive ones.
I have to disagree with your assesment that the MC is a switch, switches choose their role depending on context, the MC is just a pussy who immediately folds at the first sign of resistance, hell even his familuar chooses whether they are having sex or not.Well some girls are submissive (Mia, Rosy, Oksana, Sequoia & (once fully domesticated) Bat Breeder).
The dominating ones are Victoria, Erevi, Vampires, Frida) but some of the interactions switch up.
The rest are all either independent or just equal in temperament. The MC feels more like a switch (a person that can change between dominant & submissive on a whim) more so because hes a horny dude who will do ANYTHING to screw hot girls.
Sadly being a dick will mostly have bad effects or completly cut content.
I agree with most of this. I still dont think MC is "weak" as it seems hes just more interested in getting laid over pride. Hes a horny lil shit who's on the fuck path & will do what he needs for that lol.The thing is most don't seem don't particulary Dom, but bulk feel like they should be open to displays of strength, blackmail or power.
I have to disagree with your assesment that the MC is a switch, switches choose their role depending on context, the MC is just a pussy who immediately folds at the first sign of resistance, hell even his familuar chooses whether they are having sex or not.
I feel like;
IMO only four characters out of twenty are true Doms, so it really isn't a case that the female characters are written as strong, the MC is just written as weak.
- Adaob, Reanna and Zsofia, sure they have a certain amount of "Dom" status as Vamps, but they are subs to their master, just kill him and take his place, whats so hard about that?
- Alice is a bit of a rebel but she was ready to submit to Johan so there shouldn't be to many obstacles in making her submit to you, maybe wealth + some daring acts of rebellion
- Beth should be easily blackmailed into being more agreeable, it really pissed me of that there wasn't any way to even attempt this.
- Caleah was already a slave so dominating her directly from rescue should be easy, an easy task for a true asshole that is.
- Erevi is true Dom No1. (and one of the few that I agree should be difficult if not impossible to Dominate), but being the chosen one should go a long way to switching those roles + given some time, a demonstration of power to prove you are her equal if not her superior.
- Erevi's Daughter, an unknown variable, but an asset in making her mother a sub.
- Frida is more an Alpha character and as such should respect strength, a quick game of Pickyuprock combined with masterful commanding of some followers should put you on equal footing if not outright pack leader status, maybe wrestle her pack away from her to really put her into a Beta state. (Maybe making Grug suck your cock would drive that point home?)
- Gwynneth, don't think I need to say much about her, Wealth and maybe a little kindness. Become her pimp!
- Liandra the elf lush, a Born Sub!
- Maghda the ogre slut lol, never thought I'd say those words!
- Mia, little red riding sub,
- Rosy, the cockteasing Halfing, the girl who sucked my cock for some flour and promptly forgot about it by the time I leveled her affection enough to suck it by choice. A born Sub, only held back by her warped sense of ethics.
- Sequoia, the only character that is written as a true Submissive, I love Sequoia, why can't I make her queen and enslave Shakala and her daughter when they are being annoying!
- Shakala beat her in battle and she is as close to being a Sub as you need her to be.
- Shakala's Daughter, like mother like daughter should have been easy to train if the MC had the balls.
- Vixenatrix, the second true Dom, not much I can say about her here, but traditionally Dragons always get enslaved, there has to be room in this game for a dragon ring or some other magical device for enslaving/training dragons
- Victoria, classed as a Dom??, more like the classic power hungry gold digger, as the new mayor, she doesn't have much option but to attach herself to you, an easy setup for a Dom if the MC ever learns how to be one
- Venomina the third true Dom, Not much to say about her yet, Strikes me as neutral, seems like she might be the type to submit out of pragmatism. Just demonstrate that you can crush her and her offspring if you chose.
- Ziva, the fourth and final true Dom, but yet again you are the chosen one of her goddess, dominating her should be a simple matter of calm manipulation. Let the goddess enlighten her.
I think I can understand why Tinkerer has made this creative choice, weak MC's are good for setting the pace, and writting two conflicting story arcs would be a massive amount of extra work, I just wish some of the more obvious "strong" options were available even if they became bad ends.
To be clear, I fully believe that you can't please everyone all the time, and I definitely fit among the "everyone" in that statement.
I'm not attacking anyone here, even if he doesn't fulfill my wishes, I really like this game, Tinkerer has done a fantastic job creating it. I hope he continues to meet the standard he has set.
What about Luthien?The thing is most don't seem don't particulary Dom, but bulk feel like they should be open to displays of strength, blackmail or power.
I have to disagree with your assesment that the MC is a switch, switches choose their role depending on context, the MC is just a pussy who immediately folds at the first sign of resistance, hell even his familuar chooses whether they are having sex or not.
I feel like;
IMO only four characters out of twenty are true Doms, so it really isn't a case that the female characters are written as strong, the MC is just written as weak.
- Adaob, Reanna and Zsofia, sure they have a certain amount of "Dom" status as Vamps, but they are subs to their master, just kill him and take his place, whats so hard about that?
- Alice is a bit of a rebel but she was ready to submit to Johan so there shouldn't be to many obstacles in making her submit to you, maybe wealth + some daring acts of rebellion
- Beth should be easily blackmailed into being more agreeable, it really pissed me of that there wasn't any way to even attempt this.
- Caleah was already a slave so dominating her directly from rescue should be easy, an easy task for a true asshole that is.
- Erevi is true Dom No1. (and one of the few that I agree should be difficult if not impossible to Dominate), but being the chosen one should go a long way to switching those roles + given some time, a demonstration of power to prove you are her equal if not her superior.
- Erevi's Daughter, an unknown variable, but an asset in making her mother a sub.
- Frida is more an Alpha character and as such should respect strength, a quick game of Pickyuprock combined with masterful commanding of some followers should put you on equal footing if not outright pack leader status, maybe wrestle her pack away from her to really put her into a Beta state. (Maybe making Grug suck your cock would drive that point home?)
- Gwynneth, don't think I need to say much about her, Wealth and maybe a little kindness. Become her pimp!
- Liandra the elf lush, a Born Sub!
- Maghda the ogre slut lol, never thought I'd say those words!
- Mia, little red riding sub,
- Rosy, the cockteasing Halfing, the girl who sucked my cock for some flour and promptly forgot about it by the time I leveled her affection enough to suck it by choice. A born Sub, only held back by her warped sense of ethics.
- Sequoia, the only character that is written as a true Submissive, I love Sequoia, why can't I make her queen and enslave Shakala and her daughter when they are being annoying!
- Shakala beat her in battle and she is as close to being a Sub as you need her to be.
- Shakala's Daughter, like mother like daughter should have been easy to train if the MC had the balls.
- Vixenatrix, the second true Dom, not much I can say about her here, but traditionally Dragons always get enslaved, there has to be room in this game for a dragon ring or some other magical device for enslaving/training dragons
- Victoria, classed as a Dom??, more like the classic power hungry gold digger, as the new mayor, she doesn't have much option but to attach herself to you, an easy setup for a Dom if the MC ever learns how to be one
- Venomina the third true Dom, Not much to say about her yet, Strikes me as neutral, seems like she might be the type to submit out of pragmatism. Just demonstrate that you can crush her and her offspring if you chose.
- Ziva, the fourth and final true Dom, but yet again you are the chosen one of her goddess, dominating her should be a simple matter of calm manipulation. Let the goddess enlighten her.
I think I can understand why Tinkerer has made this creative choice, weak MC's are good for setting the pace, and writting two conflicting story arcs would be a massive amount of extra work, I just wish some of the more obvious "strong" options were available even if they became bad ends.
To be clear, I fully believe that you can't please everyone all the time, and I definitely fit among the "everyone" in that statement.
I'm not attacking anyone here, even if he doesn't fulfill my wishes, I really like this game, Tinkerer has done a fantastic job creating it. I hope he continues to meet the standard he has set.
Horny + no pride or willpower = weak... I still dont think MC is "weak" as it seems hes just more interested in getting laid over pride. Hes a horny lil shit who's on the fuck path & will do what he needs for that lol.
What about her?What about Luthien?
I assume by rescue you mean:Is the game coded in a way where you have to rescue Ziva before you can start knocking people up? I sorta beelined to the tower, because you get a decent bed that you don't have to pay for. Anyway, I've been pumping Everi every day and I got this dialogue when I asked if she was pregnant. View attachment 1588256
So, do you have to do the Ziva quests before anyone can get preggers?
of course.You can knockup her and her daughter LiandraCan I knockup Gwenyth in the game?
Gwenyth is that whore of weirdwood Not the elfof course.You can knockup her and her daughter Liandra
You can. But only when you have sex in her house and with enhance potion.Can I knockup Gwenyth in the game?
Just focus on Ziva. Save at start of day. Fuck her both times during mass with Enhanced Fertility. Then sleep for 5 days & check to see if she is preg. If not, reload & do again.I can't get Ziva, Caleah and Alice to get pregnant. therefore Quest: Cover Your Tracks does not activate. I fucked them 10 consecutive days during mass using Potion of Enhanced Fertility, but nothing happens. any help?
Yes but only AFTER The Election & only by having sex in her home with Enhanced Fertility. She is using Barreness so u might want to save just before hand & sleep 5 days if she isnt preg, reload.Can I knockup Gwenyth in the game?