Beth (with Mia) is at the bottom of my list, they feel boring to me, too generic. Don't ask why but I think she needs some pigtails (and Daisy Dukes), it's a small thing but I think it would make all the difference.
For most think beth has to little content to have hard judgment. for me Mia as at the bottom due her kind of story / looks isnt for me. i like them bigger/rounder
Personally I like variety, I tend to get bored if all the girls have the same body shapes. I hope Mia gets a makeover too (her entire story)... I still don't understand why we don't get to be the big bad wolf, I thought that was what the whole "Little Red Riding Hood" angle was leading too... feels like switch and bait to me, was that another story line that was attacked as "NTR"?
yea it had NTR with it with the werewolf, some are hoping for the Gilf grandmother of her. And some want a female werewolf as something to be added to the game. so still lots of options for her.
Mia and Beth are good candidates for "boob/ass potion", but I wish that the potion effect would be reversable. I like them small.
No, no, no... I wasn't talking about the Werewolf "Not NTR" scene
, I remember there was some flak with the MC turning into an Ogre with the Succubi Daughters roleplay scene (with some people claiming it was NTR), I was asking is something similar blocked the MC using his shapechanging powers to roleplay "Little Red Ridinghood and the Big Bad Wolf"... Whether you allowed the Werewolf to play with Mia or not, I feel the MC should still have been able to do it... either as full Dog or a Wereman, it would make Mia much more interesting IMO.I couldn't agree more,
personaly hope never will be added, due the fact of the flood gates and ''demands'' people want with the potion.
maybe in the future he goes back on that path or setup for someone new ?, or related story. but dont think Mia get revisit anytime soon. so far not the most populair girl mention on the discord. same for beth but that also due lack of content with her.No, no, no... I wasn't talking about the Werewolf "Not NTR" scene
I like Mia, her appearance isnt the most gorgeous or unique & her story isnt the most interesting but I like the fact shes just a random peasant girl & an early damsel for MC to rescue ya know (also I'm more an ass man so got no issue with itty bitty titties, in fact when their too big- compared to the body- I'm turned off. That's just my personal taste so dont at me).
I think those people arnt complaining that shapeshifting is NTR, there complaining about what MC is turning into. It's still stupid tbh. I think the shapeshifting adds a fun & interesting twist to sex scenes & are creative answers to some of MC's problems. If they are complaining its NTR then they are deluded...
Agreed MC should be allowed to use Werewolf form even if you "Play As Intended". However I don't think those deluded claims had any effect on MC not being to turn into a Werewolf. In the original play MC never gets the chance to become a werewolf. The "NO-CUCK" shifting scene was created/programmed in response to people complaining about the Werewolf fucking Mia.No, no, no... I wasn't talking about the Werewolf "Not NTR" scene
Gorgeous is extremely subjective, personally I actually tend to prefer girls with "flaws" whether it is a big nose, weird laugh, scars or whatever, I find it hard to trust/connect with girls who are too "perfect", my thoughts tend to jump straight to plastic/barbie/airhead
Story on the other hand is extremely important to me, it doesn't matter how attractive she is on a physical level, if she doesn't have an interesting narrative I just lose interest (almost instantly in fact)
Short hair works to (I still prefer Pigtails though, use 'em as handholds when learning her to suck a cock), I think Beth could really work the Beverly Hillbilly TomBoy image, the type who grew up wrestling her 6 brothers and can't quite work out why everybody wants to wrestle her differently now... Maybe they think her boobs will slow her down... well she'll show 'em.
Flaws arnt terrible. I like that there is a variety in this game & I enjoy the fact characters like Mia & Beth exist. Compared to Victoria, Alice, Oksana & Ziva they are more like wall flowers, still pretty but not stand out (which actually makes them stand out to me). I feel Mia was a perfect early game damsel character & the lil red angle was a nice bit of development to make her character just a little bit more fun. If Tinkerer does anything for her I think it should be let MC go Big Bad Wolf even in the regular version. Why do the babies get to have the wolf form when people like me play as intended lol.
I mean there is zero sign of having brothers (even tho that would have added some hilarity to her character arc). But I do get the tomboy, no-nonsense vibe. Feels like the kind of geilr who used to play rough-n-touble with her father until she grew tits & he stopped cos he got weird about it lol.
Like I said, My problem with isn't that they are flawed (or perfect) it's that they are bland to me. I think Mia might even be improved if Gran continued to be overprotective/interfering device (allowing Mia to be perma-horny), For example I hate the Mia interaction where she demands the MC make dinner, Gran could fill that role, demanding the MC step up as provider to her daughter & grand children, cockblocking him if her conditions aren't met (When Mia does it, my first reaction is "fuck you, I built you a house with my bare hands and you are nagging me already!!!"), A cockblocking Gran could also encourage mischief using shape changing magic to get past her (prolonging the dating phase & improving the variety of sex scenes).
I agree Gabriel could be a fantastic device to add some flavour to Beth's narrative, I would have like to have him be obsessively over protective to the point Beth has had no real experience of sex/men, that's why she finds herself drawn to Samson, she has no idea why his cock fascinates her so, it just calls to some unfulfilled desire deep inside her.
No need to be so literal, as a basic archetype "real" brothers aren't required, other stableboys/villageboys could have filled that role (until her father chased them away when he realized that their motivations for wrestling had changed). The main point of the Archetype is she is a tough no-nonsense "boy" in a womans body, being overwhelmed with weird sensations/desires that nobody ever taught her about and she has nobody to turn to for guidance.
The Ogre thing you can kinda guess that he was tasting the waters so to speak about making sharing content again and what the public opinion would be. I will say it a million times, I HATE that Tinkerer let himself be bullied to take out content from the vision of the game he was making at the time, the amount of Vanilla crybabies (no offense meant) back a few years on his discord and patreon was crazy. Who knows from what I have asked him he still hopes to add optional content but I doubt it.
Obviously most of what I wrote was more about how I would have liked for their stories to have developed rather than how it is, obviously a bunch of stuff would need to be retconned if Tinkerer were to take my thoughts wholesale, but I figure there are elements that could be enacted. for example Mia's Gran would be easy, she could come forward one day (triggered by "n" days of neglect) "I've been watching you, you lazy no good layabout, I've been silent so far but no longer! YOU WILL step up as a husband and a father OR I WILL make your life a living hell...", Mia could see this and blame herself, swearing to herself to be more proactive in your sex life. [easy peasy]
, but technically even when she wasn't pissed she tended to refuse sex unless I made dinner. I'd recon her in a heartbeat without looking back, though Pigtails & Daisy Dukes might go a long way to making her much more agreeable if a makeover was all that happened with her. As it stands, the only interactions I have with her is the stuff the game forces you to do to progress the story.Dude you should mean your offense
. Tinkerer is the captain of this ship, we are all just passengers (hell most of us aren't even passengers, we're stowaways), if he wants to take the story in a particular direction, us passengers need to either strap in for the ride or jump ship... whiners ain't welcome
When you say the Ogre thing do u mean when MC shared Ziva with Grug the Giant or are u talking about when MC turns into a Troll? If it's the former I agree. If it's the later i have no idea what that has to do with sharing cos that WAS the MC just in a different form.
