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This is exactly what I am trying to do. My Cook Book only has the Vegetable Bushel. I am using version 3.62, the newest. I only downloaded it yesturday. I've been playing the game since version 2 something.
Theres a cooking station next to that one by 1 space that should let u cook the dinner iirc
 

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I mean orcs are literally just green humans.
Depends on the individual's definition of "monster girl." Also, how they're depicted in an IP.
Seems weird to insist that they're monster girls to you just because you don't find that attractive
Never said I found them unattractive, and did say I hope we get an orc girl. FTR I avoid Maghda after the first, required meeting because of her dietary flexibility, rather than her appearance. ;)
 

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.........bro have you not read or seen Lord of The Rings? .


99% of fantasy races are more influenced by dnd and other rpgs than lord of the rings, where orcs look more like more like green humans with tusks. That's the whole reason why we even have stuff like dark elves and halflings instead of hobbits. Lotr elves are immortal beings and there is only a singular race of elves divided into different cultures. Peasant quest having stuff like dark elves and swamp elves, and other fantasy settings doing the same thing is more of a dnd thing and the influence of Lotr is kind of overstated as most fantasy tropes people are familiar with didn't even come from lotr.


Even in lotr Orcs are pretty much nothing like the typical portrayal of orcs, and orc is just another term for goblins. Lotr is not relevant at all. Since peasant quest is pretty heavily inspired by dnd and other rpgs so it's really silly to insist that orcs are monster girls when again they're just green humans with tusks in those settings.



Orcs are not monster girls any more than elves or mermaids are monster girls.
 
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This is exactly what I am trying to do. My Cook Book only has the Vegetable Bushel. I am using version 3.62, the newest. I only downloaded it yesturday. I've been playing the game since version 2 something. In previos versions you didn't have to learn the recipe. Thank you for answering the question. I haven't got the quest for her key yet.
When the new crafting system (including kitchen stuff) was introduced, a number of things were changed. One of those is not being able to butcher rabbits/boars/bears for steaks until after you have Jenny do it for you. (Technically the steaks thing reverted to an earlier version where that was always required, but most players came along after it was changed to not needing to see Jenny.)

There are four situations that will unlock asking Jenny for that: Alice's key, Erevi's date, distracting Balder, and getting Frida to forgive you after the giants' hunting grounds arc. Seems to me you need to visit Jenny now. :)
 

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the rason is that Tolkien enterprise thretened to sue Gary Gaynax for copyright infringement
Exactly, but it doesn't change the fact that most tropes that people use when it comes to fantasy races are closer to the DnD portrayals than the lotr versions.


Peasant's quest is basically just an r rated dnd game. Lotr is kind of irrelevant here.
 

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Exactly, but it doesn't change the fact that most tropes that people use when it comes to fantasy races are closer to the DnD portrayals than the lotr versions.


Peasant's quest is basically just an r rated dnd game. Lotr is kind of irrelevant here.
i think you missed al the tolkien references
 

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Orcs are not monster girls any more than elves or mermaids are monster girls.
Orcs are consistently tagged as monster girls on manga, anime, and hentai sites. As are mermaids, ogres/oni, vampires, and so on even when they are depicted as essentially human. Elves are only rarely tagged as monster girls, usually when they're more like fae than "humans with pointy ears."
 
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Orcs are consistently tagged as monster girls on manga, anime, and hentai sites. As are mermaids, ogres/oni, vampires, and so on even when they are depicted as essentially human. Elves are only rarely tagged as monster girls, usually when they're more like fae than "humans with pointy ears."
I've also never ever ever seen a mermaid or elf tagged as a monster girl. Not any fairies either. Monster girls are usually more stuff like lamias and harpies.
 

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When the new crafting system (including kitchen stuff) was introduced, a number of things were changed. One of those is not being able to butcher rabbits/boars/bears for steaks until after you have Jenny do it for you. (Technically the steaks thing reverted to an earlier version where that was always required, but most players came along after it was changed to not needing to see Jenny.)

There are four situations that will unlock asking Jenny for that: Alice's key, Erevi's date, distracting Balder, and getting Frida to forgive you after the giants' hunting grounds arc. Seems to me you need to visit Jenny now. :)
Are there any other recipes like that? I made the 'special pastries' already but, they didn't show up in the cook book yet. Do you need to give one to someone first? What about the other recipes? Mead is probably the Giants. Do you get meal from this quest ( Erevi's dinner )?
 
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There are a few sure, but in terms of the races there are a lot more dnd stuff. The way Everi described dark elves for instance is pretty much the Drow to a T.




Also irrelevant. Japanese orcs are very different from western orcs and are more like pigmen like Ganon, just like Japanse Kobolds are dog people, while western Kobolds are always lizards. Japan takes most of their fantasy races from wizardry so they tend to be different from western stuff. Like I said Japanese orcs are just giant bipedal pigs in most media. I've also outright never seen a mermaid or elf ever and I mean ever tagged as a monster girl in literally anything View attachment 4564440 View attachment 4564453
Those orcs look similar to some depictions of goblins / kobolds before tolkein. Tolkein invented orcs / orks. He originally called them goblins. Before Tolkein's descriptions and the illustrations they would inspire there was no universal or agreed upon appearance for goblins, or any kind of magical creature for that matter (faeries, pixies, fae, brownies, hobs, hobgoblins, kobolds, etc.). There was also no clear distinction between any of them and they were often used interchangeably. Often a single folk story would have multiple variations with the specific magical creature changing to suit the area or language of the people telling the story. The understanding of all of magical creatures was vague and mysterious because their nature was to go mostly unseen. They all could have a range of moral alignments and were often depicted as mischievous or playful. Often people would blame them for things that went missing or attribute to them things that were beyond explanation.
 

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Are there any other recipes like that? I made the 'special pastries' already but, they didn't show up in the cook book yet. Do you need to give one to someone first? What about the other recipes? Mead is probably the Giants. Do you get meal from this quest ( Erevi's dinner )?
You need a steak to make a meal, so making meals doesn't show until after Jenny shows you how to butcher something. That includes the special "make dinner for Erevi" spot in the Tower kitchen. (Remember, you need two steaks for that dinner rather than just one.) Yes, learning how to make mead requires following the giants quests.

If you make special pastries before knowing moon flower pollen makes people horny, you get the previous dialogue/thoughts about it. Once you know, they show in the cookbook.
 

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Even in lotr Orcs are pretty much nothing like the typical portrayal of orcs, and orc is just another term for goblins. Lotr is not relevant at all. Since peasant quest is pretty heavily inspired by dnd and other rpgs so it's really silly to insist that orcs are monster girls when again they're just green humans with tusks in those settings.



Orcs are not monster girls any more than elves or mermaids are monster girls.
Orcs were invented by Tokien for LoTRs. To say Orcs are nothing like typical portrayals & that it is not relevant at all is the dumbest thi g I have read all day. Seriously dude just look up Orcs & you'll see they were created for LoTRs by Tolkien it has everything to do with that. D&D & everything else coopted them from Tolkien, even in 1e D&D they were just pigheaded Greenskins to be killed. Hobbits & Ents were copyrighted but Orcs were not (no idea it was his IP but he just never bothered, which is why they became the true sole survivors of Tolkien's work into modern fantasy works)

Elves & Mermaids come from folkore/myth. Orcs come from LoTRs.
 
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Orcs were invented by Tokien for LoTRs. To say Orcs are nothing like typical portrayals & that it is not relevant at all is the dumbest thi g I have read all day. Seriously dude just look up Orcs & you'll see they were created for LoTRs by Tolkien it has everything to do with that. D&D & everything else coopted them from Tolkien, even in 1e D&D they were just pigheaded Greenskins to be killed.

Elves & Mermaids come from folkore/myth. Orcs come from LoTRs.


It's irrelevent because the modern version of the trope didn't come from Tokien. Like everyone here said already Orcs in Tolkien is just another name for Goblin. The traditional version of fantasy orcs comes from DnD not Tolkien, just like the sterotype Dark elf like Everi also comes from DnD and Tolkien Dark elves are something completley different. And they're both completely different from the actual folklore version of dark elves, which was just another name for Dwarves.


DnD didn't just straight up copy everything Tolkien did, they both heavily modified it and were also drew in inspiration from 3 hearts 3 lions.
 
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There are a few sure, but in terms of the races there are a lot more dnd stuff. The way Everi described dark elves for instance is pretty much the Drow to a T.




Also irrelevant. Japanese orcs are very different from western orcs and are more like pigmen like Ganon, just like Japanse Kobolds are dog people, while western Kobolds are always lizards. Japan takes most of their fantasy races from wizardry so they tend to be different from western stuff. Like I said Japanese orcs are just giant bipedal pigs in most media. I've also outright never seen a mermaid or elf ever and I mean ever tagged as a monster girl in literally anything View attachment 4564440 View attachment 4564453
That's because Japanese people were introduced to Orcs by D&D 1e which had them as Pigmen before then LoTRs was not a book u could really find in Japan (I'm sure theres translations now tho but I cant be sure). Same thing happened with Kobolds (OG: German Goblins. D&D 1e: yapping dogfolk, before later transforming into tapping dragonfolk. The Dogfolk were Japanse first look at Kobolds & so it stuck).

Orcs have evolved in the social consensus of fantasy due to people having freedom to use & explore them. But they are definetly monster girls. They are often seen as the same family as Goblins, Ogres & Trolls in modern fantasy settings.
 

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That's because Japanese people were introduced to Orcs by D&D 1e which had them as Pigmen before then LoTRs was not a book u could really find in Japan (I'm sure theres translations now tho but I cant be sure). Same thing happened with Kobolds (OG: German Goblins. D&D 1e: yapping dogfolk, before later transforming into tapping dragonfolk. The Dogfolk were Japanse first look at Kobolds & so it stuck).

Orcs have evolved in the social consensus of fantasy due to people having freedom to use & explore them. But they are definetly monster girls. They are often seen as the same family as Goblins, Ogres & Trolls in modern fantasy settings.
They are definitely not monster girls any more than elves and mermaids are monster girls for the reasons I've already mentioned. "Evolving in social consensus" doesn't matter because things are based around the most common usage, just like tolkien orcs don't matter because they are so different from the common typical usage. This is a game that realizes a lot already on fantasy tropes and the races that are here are pretty much based on the common versions of the trope.

It doesn't mean Tolkien orcs aren't matter at all but in the context of modern fantasy it kind of does because Tolkiens orcs don't really fit in modern fantasy, or even 80s fantasy really.
 

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It's irrelevent because the modern version of the trope didn't come from Tokien. Like everyone here said already Orcs in Tolkien is just another name for Goblin. The traditional version of fantasy orcs comes from DnD not Tolkien, just like the sterotype Dark elf like Everi also comes from DnD and Tolkien Dark elves are something completley different. And they're both completely different from the actual folklore version of dark elves, which was just another name for Dwarves.


DnD didn't just straight up copy everything Tolkien did, they both heavily modified it and were also drew in inspiration from 3 hearts 3 lions.
Orcs were invented by Tolkien as a type of souped-up goblin so all trace back to that. Which makes them monsters. Most settings, PQ including, call Goblins AND Orcs "Greenskins" because they are closely related cousins.

Dark Elves come from Norse folklore. The Ljos'alfar (Light Elves) & Dökk/Svart'alfar (Dark Elves). I'm not disagreeing that D&D helped solidify the modern conception for most fantastical creatures but they took inspiration form 100s of different media forms to help create their game.

Anyway I'm not gonna debate this further because I'm reading back & we look kinda ridiculous arguing over Orcs being monster or not...
 

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Orcs were invented by Tolkien as a type of souped-up goblin so all trace back to that. Which makes them monsters.

Dark Elves come from Norse folklore. The Ljos'alfar (Light Elves) & Dökk/Svart'alfar (Dark Elves). I'm not disagreeing that D&D helped solidify the modern conception for most fantastical creatures but they took inspiration form 100s of different media forms to help create their game.
Give it up, dude's picked the hillock he's willing to die on. Not worth the effort.
 

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Orcs were invented by Tolkien as a type of souped-up goblin so all trace back to that. Which makes them monsters.

Dark Elves come from Norse folklore. The Ljos'alfar (Light Elves) & Dökk/Svart'alfar (Dark Elves). I'm not disagreeing that D&D helped solidify the modern conception for most fantastical creatures but they took inspiration form 100s of different media forms to help create their game.

But my point is were not basing things off there original origin, were are basing them off the typical fantasy tropes. If you said that Everi was a dwarf just because dark elves are dwarves in mythology you wouldn't really be right. Since basically the 80s Orcs haven't been monsters but just another humanoid race same as elves and dwarves, they just happen to be a race that leans more towards the evil alignment. In modern fantasy orc are literally just muscular green humans
 
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