He is performing a gay act. That does not make him gay but it does for lack of a better analogy for you young people who are into vidio games add gay points to his meter. It's not a super good analogy as the meter is not something you move by behavior but something that reveals your inner self. But you get the idea. Or maybe not. It's not a great analogy but it's late on a saturday night ad I've been celebrating the birth of the weekend since this morning so you'll just have to accept it.
People who like futa on male are gay?
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gay means sexually or romantically attracted to people of one's own sex so no getting finger in your ass by woman can never be gay also how is it a gay act cos again its a woman
then you are misunderstood between sex and gender, they identify as men which they identify their gender not sex
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Wrong, they themselves see that kind of gender affirmative care as sex change surgery. The point is to bring their sex in line with their gender.
I know the difference between the sex and gender pretty well, I don't need an explainer.
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There ever was a difference? Damn, wild shit...
My opinion regarding all this gender/sex bullshittery is basically:
I concur. It's all just extremely bullshit. The whole identity politics thing is basically people thinking that if choosing to claim something is real makes it real. Or rather, that if you claim something is real everyone has to act as if it is real in spite of reality.There ever was a difference? Damn, wild shit...
My opinion regarding all this gender/sex bullshittery is basically:
Just because I run around the street with my arms outstretched making engine noises does not mean I am an airplane. And it's especially annoying because you can see just how easy it gets coopted by special interest groups that have a special interest in keeping the working classes divided so that we do not unite against our common enemy.
But I do think we have gotten away from the fundamental point of this thread now. So perhaps we should conclude it here.
Mind you, just to be clear. I have no problem with men turning into women and vice versa if they want to. We have the surgical means to do it these days. And everyone who has the desire to do so is more than welcome to partake in them as far as I am concerned. But don't not do it and ask us all to pretend you did.
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No I cant provide links. But yeah.. they are available on both youtube and google. Seen both from having this exact argument before.
If you wanna learn, then learn to use google. Its not really that hard. Its how I found them.
It is generally upon the one making a claim to provide his sources and not for the one investigating the claim.
No its not. Its a claim. Not a thesis.
You wanna take part in the discussion, you counterclaim and or provide proof. And THEN ask for sources if a)he still wants to argue against your sources or b)you cannot find anything substaining his claim and is genuinely interested in the discussion.
Or you just go the lazy route and ask for sources straight out, having 0 intentions of reading them., or counter claiming. You just wanna ignore the argument if no sources gets provided.
This was an extremely fast search at wikipedia fx:
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men attracted to transgender women primarily identify as
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and sometimes as
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, but rarely as
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,"Next study:
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Its really easy to find. So to straight up ask for sources is damn retarded as its only a search away.
Next study:
"The study found that the largest audience for "shemale" - male-to-female transexual - porn was heterosexual men."
gay means sexually or romantically attracted to people of one's own sex so no getting finger in your ass by woman can never be gay also how is it a gay act cos again its a woman
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Maybe you could ask King3312 to tutor you?There ever was a difference? Damn, wild shit...
My opinion regarding all this gender/sex bullshittery is basically:
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So medical specialists across the world are just into extreme bullshit?
But I agree it's going to a different subject. That's on me for posting those photos, but I think they helped make the discussion a bit less handwavy.
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Nah, don't give a shit about it enough to learn.Maybe you could ask King3312 to tutor you?
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Hmmm....
You said....
SO my assumption is that you already know of these studies that exist. Wait, I thought you already knew about these studies. Why did you need to do a Google search? And then...of your great Googling skills, only to provide...this....
The above is not a study. It is a Wikipedia article, that is defining what Cisgender means. 1) It is not a study or anything close to one 2) There is nothing there that backs up your premise of "...dominantly straight males who enjoy depictions of futa and transgendered..." as the statement is referring to Cisgender which describes Gender identity. Are you saying Gender Identity directly corresponds to sexual preference? Gay, Straight, or otherwise?
This is not even a study....it is an article from 2016, that..backs up some of what you are saying, but barely. First off the statement off the back is based on stats from an single paid adult site, Adult empire. Are you saying that we should generalize that statement across all areas based on a single paid site? Are those numbers still the same now almost 10 years later? What is the breakdown between Gay Men vs Hetero Men? Is it 60/40, 70/30. 80/20? Redtube said the majority of trans searchs where done by men in 2013. Ok....that's a long time ago, but should we be generalizing based on a single site? Do we know if those men were gay or straight?
The thing is simple....you basically provided an Wiki article and a news article (that has been removed from the site and is no longer available) top prove your point. Studies? Come on now...you can find anything on the internet to prove your point. Let's not act like there is academic research and scholarly articles on this topic which conducted unbias studies.
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I should have responded to this first...
Yes it is a claim. A claim that you are throwing out there as a perceivable fact. And like in any debate, the person that throws out the claim usually backs it up with evidence....something I like to call "receipts," that allows that claim to be debated on its own merits. How can one counterclaim something in which you have not provided evidence of its existence?
The problem is the fallacy of insufficient evidence as you are making generalizations without really having or showing proper evidence to make a claim. It is what for those familiar with debate like to call "Hasty Generalizations"
It is why even in the US legal system the burden of proof is on the individual stating the claim.
A counter claim would work like this "no its not, its...."
And NO... when you postulate a claim, you do NOT HAVE to prove it. Its an absolutely mess of a shitshow troll way to think.
A claim is NOT a fact.
Regardless of that breach of standard debate to ask for sources as the first thing. Its always and every single time, if its the first that is asked, never read. Its a way to ignore any and all arguments (like the trolling it is) to ask for source on a claim, without taking part in any debate. Its literally cutting out the fucking debate, because if there is decent sourcing the entire debate is a non-issue.
So yes... its never a must to substain a claim with information. Its a fecking claim.
Fuck how US legal system works, this is a debate not a court.
Its impolite as fuck to ask for source in a debate without parttaking in the debate.
Now read carefully my FIRST sentence in that post.Hmmm....
You said....
SO my assumption is that you already know of these studies that exist. Wait, I thought you already knew about these studies. Why did you need to do a Google search? And then...of your great Googling skills, only to provide...this....
The above is not a study. It is a Wikipedia article, that is defining what Cisgender means. 1) It is not a study or anything close to one 2) There is nothing there that backs up your premise of "...dominantly straight males who enjoy depictions of futa and transgendered..." as the statement is referring to Cisgender which describes Gender identity. Are you saying Gender Identity directly corresponds to sexual preference? Gay, Straight, or otherwise?
This is not even a study....it is an article from 2016, that..backs up some of what you are saying, but barely. First off the statement off the back is based on stats from an single paid adult site, Adult empire. Are you saying that we should generalize that statement across all areas based on a single paid site? Are those numbers still the same now almost 10 years later? What is the breakdown between Gay Men vs Hetero Men? Is it 60/40, 70/30. 80/20? Redtube said the majority of trans searchs where done by men in 2013. Ok....that's a long time ago, but should we be generalizing based on a single site? Do we know if those men were gay or straight?
The thing is simple....you basically provided an Wiki article and a news article (that has been removed from the site and is no longer available) top prove your point. Studies? Come on now...you can find anything on the internet to prove your point. Let's not act like there is academic research and scholarly articles on this topic which conducted unbias studies.
"Studies"
This is just a random search done in seconds.
All of them are based on studies.
Wikipedia links for those are found at bottom of the page.
The article is substained from studies as well. Statistical research.
Second line is just a copy from an actual research, because I cannot be arsed to find any more relevant information.
In my post prior I explained the studies I read are from a former debate about this topic, on this very forum.... But it wasnt fucking yesterday. So I DO NOT HAVE a link to the exact ones I read. Why I did NOT want to provide links.
Your deconstruction without yourself providing any shred of evidence, source or anything at all... is why asking for sources as a first getgo always derails a debate. You do not have any intend to debate the topic, you just wanna demolish your opponent regardless of any evidence he finds.
Youre a troll.
Breakdown of gay vs straight men... is much much nearer 10% of the population mate. Its roughly 7.1%.