Pet Peeve: Too Many Handjob Scenes in Games

[whiskeyrose]

Its an act that doesn't seem so intrusive. Sex for women is an intrusive act, which is typically a much bigger deal than their male counterparts. I know women are becoming more sexually open, but to be frank a lot of sex is pretty gross.

A casual blowjob? That's putting your mouth on an organ piss comes from and sucking on it for 10-15 minutes. Sex is having that same piss organ penetrate your insides, even going so far as to risk STD or pregnancy. If a girl character does either within minutes of meeting the MC it screams to the player/reader "This is a silly porno situation" or "This is a turbo-slut with daddy issues".

A handjob is much more benign, casual, and tells the player that while the potential for more exists they're only special enough to get a little taste 'for now'. Strip teases and assjobs fall in this category too. It says "I like you boy, but try harder." I haven't a clue if that applies in the real world or not (probably doesn't, been a long time since I've dated).

Its also an innate design challenge in lewd games. In lewd games the player reward is the porn, because it sure as shit isn't the non-existent gameplay or the shitty story. By giving the player sex right away, you remove the feeling of player success and growth with the character. You leave the player thinking "I've already fucked and nutted in her hair, why should I work towards a blowjob?" Or at least thats the fear.

/blog.

 

[W65]

Hey, devs, just remember that one thread of folks complaining about sex acts they don't like doesn't a consensus make.

 

[Malkav]

If it makes you feel any better, I tend to focus on the vaginal and multiple partners a lot more in my crossover comic. I can't recall doing any handjobs so far for that (BJs/69s are included though). I think the only handjob I actually rendered, well she was straddling some guy too...

It's more of a happy ending BJ thing though. This is the closest I think I've come to setting up a handjob in my collection of renders. BTW, for those not in the know, the black creepydudes are magical, so the guy in the back has his legs disappearing into the floor (she is indeed being DPed as well).

I'm sure I'll set up a couple of HJs in Consent when I finally get around to that, but only as 'obligatory' stairway to heaven stuff, not because I want to, but most likely they will be BJs instead because I don't like pussyfooting around.

'Just' handjobs simply do not interest me personally. As I've told a couple of different ladies (and as you pointed out yourself), I can do my on HJs, and more effectively at that, I don't need them for that. I'd rather go down on them instead, I like making girls squirm when my face is buried between their thighs, that personally turns me on a lot more than a HJ will...

That and vaginal of course!

Is the comic link in your signature your only work?

 

[OhWee]

Is the comic link in your signature your only work?

I mostly do fan art around here, which is scattered across several threads. The crossover comic that I'm still plugging away at is my first 'full length' comic though. The piece I shared above is one of several Dreams of Desire fan art pieces I've done. I mostly just focus on Tracy from that game though (hence her inclusion in the crossover), 'cuz she's a babe.

I've been archiving some of my artwork

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. Among other things, it talks about a game I'll tackle in earnest eventually, but I'm focused on a bunch of other things at the moment. That thread covers my 2+ years working with Daz Studio so far, so you can see my progression as an artist from my earlier days/posts to where I'm at currently skill wise. My skill is still a bit hit and miss, but I'm getting better at it.

I also occasionally do mods for games, but all of those mods are pretty much abandoned now. Goldo incorporated some of my interface ideas into Brothel King, which hopefully has made that game a bit less of a chore to play. My other mods are now very much obsolete, as they apply to very old versions of other games. The games in question either moved on to other chapters, incorporated ideas similar to what I was trying to do in my mods, or I simply just lost interest in the evolving storyline and moved on.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Its an act that doesn't seem so intrusive. Sex for women is an intrusive act, which is typically a much bigger deal than their male counterparts. I know women are becoming more sexually open, but to be frank a lot of sex is pretty gross.

A casual blowjob? That's putting your mouth on an organ piss comes from and sucking on it for 10-15 minutes. Sex is having that same piss organ penetrate your insides, even going so far as to risk STD or pregnancy. If a girl character does either within minutes of meeting the MC it screams to the player/reader "This is a silly porno situation" or "This is a turbo-slut with daddy issues".

A handjob is much more benign, casual, and tells the player that while the potential for more exists they're only special enough to get a little taste 'for now'. Strip teases and assjobs fall in this category too. It says "I like you boy, but try harder." I haven't a clue if that applies in the real world or not (probably doesn't, been a long time since I've dated).

Its also an innate design challenge in lewd games. In lewd games the player reward is the porn, because it sure as shit isn't the non-existent gameplay or the shitty story. By giving the player sex right away, you remove the feeling of player success and growth with the character. You leave the player thinking "I've already fucked and nutted in her hair, why should I work towards a blowjob?" Or at least thats the fear.

/blog.

Perhaps, but in my personal experience a handjob isn't a persistent stage of intimacy. It's a transient one. Perhaps 1-3 "dates" or meetings might involve this level of foreplay, before moving on to greater levels of sexual intimacy. I'm not sure that skipping the 5-10 handjob scenes in game = "giving the player sex right away". I've got no problem with blowjob scenes, cunnilingus scenes, 69 scenes, titfuck+bj scenes, rubbing genitals together, etc. None of those are vaginal penetration or anal penetration. And of course even when you get to penetration, there are multiple different positions and locations for the sex to take place in. And that's before you get to group encounter scenarios, dirty talk, roleplay, etc. If you want more pre-play, make kissing and caressing more sensual/appealing. Make the hj accompanied by the man reciprocating. But a scene with the guy sitting or laying there and the woman either staring at the dick while stroking it, or staring at the man...it doesn't do much for the player, imo.

 

[whiskeyrose]

blowjob scenes, cunnilingus scenes, 69 scenes, titfuck+bj scenes, rubbing genitals together, etc. None of thos

I agree. To me as a person in real life a handjob would be a pretty intimate action. Actually, it's one that leads to sex rather than is some kind of conclusion.

I think it's common because it's also really easy to do. You just render a hand on a dick and zoop zoop.

 

[caLTD]

It was all about atmosphere which you crated. Tit job hand job, foot job.

Without a context job is unimportant. If you create a situation which hot enough, sitting side by side in a metro vagon can create excitement.

Also, in 3d dicks have to bit bigger than usual, otherwise (especially if female is large) you can't show enough. (due to lack of soft body pyhsics and body part control.)

 

[saintvermillion]

It was all about atmosphere which you crated. Tit job hand job, foot job.

Without a context job is unimportant. If you create a situation which hot enough, sitting side by side in a metro vagon can create excitement.

Also, in 3d dicks have to bit bigger than usual, otherwise (especially if female is large) you can't show enough. (due to lack of soft body pyhsics and body part control.)

Yeah it comes down to the context. HJ can be made hot if rendered and written well. The stairway to heaven trope though is one that seriously has been beaten to death in the daz 3d ren'py VNs. It should be changed up or at the very least anal shouldn't be considered the end game of all sex. If you're playing a porn game there is a 95% chance you can consider possibilities on the ladder way beyond doing her in the ass.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Yeah it comes down to the context. HJ can be made hot if rendered and written well. The stairway to heaven trope though is one that seriously has been beaten to death in the daz 3d ren'py VNs. It should be changed up or at the very least anal shouldn't be considered the end game of all sex. If you're playing a porn game there is a 95% chance you can consider possibilities on the ladder way beyond doing her in the ass.

Well, for one thing, group encounters would be considered a greater "payoff" than sex with one woman. Kinks or fetishes would also kick things up a notch.

 

[saintvermillion]

Well, for one thing, group encounters would be considered a greater "payoff" than sex with one woman. Kinks or fetishes would also kick things up a notch.

Absolutely though your formerly mentioned line is also the exact same line where NTR often enters the equation for the super vanilla crowd irrelevant of who is joining in which might highlight one of the reasons the stairway is forever stunted.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Absolutely though your formerly mentioned line is also the exact same line where NTR often enters the equation for the super vanilla crowd irrelevant of who is joining in which might highlight one of the reasons the stairway is forever stunted.

Well, my preference would be for FFM or FFFM but whatever floats the boat, I guess.

 

[saintvermillion]

Well, my preference would be for FFM or FFFM but whatever floats the boat, I guess.

FFM or FFFM is cuck behaviour in the extreme anti-NTR crowd XD

 

[BawdyBaron]

where the every woman has drooping tits are larger than their heads because thats what it looks like when a child looks at their mom

This relates to one of my pet peeves: why does it seem like so few artists will draw famous fictional characters with the body proportions she has in her original media? For example, if I'm looking for porn of Jasmine, or Kim Possible, or Marge Simpson, or Gwen Stacy, I don't want a version of that character that looks like she's smuggling watermelons in her shirt and hams in her pants. She's sexy as she is, don't change it!

 

[baneini]

This relates to one of my pet peeves: why does it seem like so few artists will draw famous fictional characters with the body proportions she has in her original media? he's sexy as she is, don't change it!

Not to mention aged up characters. Why even bother.
Then theres doujins where everyones personalities are changed which begs the question what do artists think people are looking for when they want a porn of a character.

 

[Nottravis]

Yeah it comes down to the context. HJ can be made hot if rendered and written well. The stairway to heaven trope though is one that seriously has been beaten to death in the daz 3d ren'py VNs. It should be changed up or at the very least anal shouldn't be considered the end game of all sex. If you're playing a porn game there is a 95% chance you can consider possibilities on the ladder way beyond doing her in the ass.

Agreed. The stairway to heaven should be nuked from orbit.

It's not reflective of real life, it's dull, and Shergar has more life in it than that dead horse of a trope.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Agreed. The stairway to heaven should be nuked from orbit.

It's not reflective of real life, it's dull, and Shergar has more life in it than that dead horse of a trope.

spread the
verb of Notty
break the stupid tropes

 

[megaplayboy10k]

spread the
verb of Notty
break the stupid tropes

I'd prefer something along the lines of:
1. Rebuffed overture--"What are you doing?"
2. Confused arousal--"Er, uhm, stop, we shouldn't be doing this"
3. Act in haste, repent at leisure--"We shouldn't have done that"
4. Weakening resistance--"We can't keep doing this"
5. Breakthrough--"I want to keep doing this with you"
6. Expansion--"I want to try new things with you"
7. Collaboration--"I want to help you seduce others"

You get foreplay at step 2, and sex at step 3. At step 5 you can have sex whenever you want. At step 6, you can start getting freaky. At step 7, they are actively helping you seduce others and will participate in group sex with you.

 

[Goülberch]

it's still better than a footjob

 

[mickydoo]

I'm an old fart, while never having that many different partners (I've been with mine now for 20 years or so), I have never had a handjob, nor ever wanted one, if I girl touches my dick it's a lead up to sex.

 

[alt_advancement]

Unpopular opinion and sorry for the necro bump but this thread speaks to me. If you're talking about being jerked off without any form of teasing stimulation I would agree with you (a very little). But from my perspective, a handjob can be the most erotic thing a significant other can do to you. Maybe I'm more visual and cerebral but there's so much that can be done to stimulate you that it blows my mind. A female (I'm straight so I'm going with female) that gives you a handjob can tease you by jerking it close to her breasts to simulate a cumshot on her tits or do the ultimate (in my opinion) and jerk it close to her open mouth and tongue out, simulating you cumming in her mouth/on her tongue. There is nothing in this world more erotic and stimulating to me than a female jerking me off with my dick mere centimeters away from her open mouth with her tongue out looking up at me with her eyes beckoning me to release my pent up load all over her tongue and in her mouth!

I honestly don't understand the allure of penetration sex (in game and real life). You're just putting your penis in her vagina, no visual or cerebral stimulation. I mean you can go cowgirl/reverse cowgirl, doggy, anal, etc... for visual stimulation (somewhat) but maybe it's something deep down primal in me that seeing my load go into my partners mouth (willingly) blows my mind!