Pr0GamerJohnny

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Oh come on! MC's dad is back in town and gets more action in five minutes than MC in the whole game (not really, but it very much feels that way). Ashley was by far the hottest girl I've seen in the game and then twenty seconds later I have to see that literal motherfucker getting his dirty paws on her! Why do that? Why show me a cake and then shit all over it?

This is why so many people, myself included, call stuff like that NTR: I couldn't care less about MC's in-world relationship to people, the moment you show me a hot girl that's obviously not just a random background character in a non-NTR game/path, she instantly becomes a LI for the PLAYER. The player's experience and feelings are what matters, not MC's, which is something that needs to find it's way into tags imho. Games like this cause serious emotional whiplash to people like me. And while I've learned to read the signals early on, I often can't stop myself from reading on, because I want to continue the story unless it's really bad. I really hope that one day soon we can have some tag for games with scenes like these. I agree that NTR is not technically correct and therefore another tag name needs to be found. Personally, I often just use "NTR-ish" or "NTR-related" in my notes.

I understand that there is no financial drive for such a tag, quite the opposite, but I also think that the almost constant turmoil that the missing of such a tag causes is not worth it.

/RANT
I'm surprised you get whiplash, I get where you're coming from - the dad is pretty much a trope at this point; but it's not like the mc is some 'good guy' from the beginning, he's the classic protag who molests his family in their sleep then whines about guys 'getting their dirty paws on them' (not making fun of you, I'm pretty sure that was said literally in the game's dialogue).

Like yeah, the dad is a sleazebag, as is Adrian, as is also the mc. I'm not advocating changing those options - some people may like the sleep rape stuff.... but I'm tired of with games with these recurring dichotomies; you know, the whole cheery hawaiian luau background music coupled with the mc acting like a cringy rapist coupled with fear of other guys fucking. It's inconsistent! Either play a scumbag and embrace it, and dont be surprised when everyone else is a scumbag, or focus on romantic themes.

So to reiterate, I mostly agree with you, but the dad shouldn't be the first thing that jumps out at you like "whoa, that's kinda uncool and out there".


Also to follow up on earlier Alice - I finished game and there are a bunch more sex scenes with her! So I can't see any bad outcome of not screwing her over, unless you specifically wanted that Alice solo photoshoot scene ( but even then, you get more 1-on-1 scenes with her in future.
 

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for those who don't have wt-pdf and don't remember what that is enlight us what it is?
the phone hints says I should catch him in the act but after the park where the pos was fking I haven't gotten any other scenes
 

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Follow the storyline. After the park encounters it all happens on sundays (well, with one self explanatory exception depending on your choice when he asks you for something. Hint: At that point create a savegame since both choices lead to fun story arcs).
how may park encounters should I get before the event continues? I had one park event triggered but none since
 

MrTrue

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how may park encounters should I get before the event continues? I had one park event triggered but none since
Should only be one where he sneaks off into the woods away from Rachel.
After that the story should continue.
 

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it hasn't, do I need to complete other characters to move it along?
Depends on what route you choose for Miroslav and how to get rid of him. One involves Evelyn and one involves Fiona.
The Fiona route requires you to progress with her story far enough that you are sleeping with her.
The Evelyn route I don't think requires anything prior other than if you wanna aid Miroslav in his conquest you have to be on the pornstar route.
So at this point you need to continue hanging at home on Sundays until you eventually go out to the mall with Evelyn, Miroslav, and Rachel to get to the point where you choose your approach.
 

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OH .... FUCKING .... DAMN .... GOD .....

Seems i am getting really old ....
I just had a complete new start to be 100% sure to "fix" my savegame(s), and even i played this game for such a long time now, i just NOW recognized an (intentional?) mistake in SAKURA's speech.

Every "L" is replaced by "R" to "simulate" her asian accent.
For example:
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... but actually Asian can't spell "R" as it sounds like "L" instead - so the other way around.

Shouldn't her accent be like "Oh, you will have a lot more than fingeL in mouth" ?

This goes for all her lines - like:
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"Do you aglee, masuta?"

or:
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"fol you afterl all"

But as it's consitent during all her lines, it makes it again like a "feature" though - lol
 

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Depends on what route you choose for Miroslav and how to get rid of him. One involves Evelyn and one involves Fiona.
The Fiona route requires you to progress with her story far enough that you are sleeping with her.
The Evelyn route I don't think requires anything prior other than if you wanna aid Miroslav in his conquest you have to be on the pornstar route.
So at this point you need to continue hanging at home on Sundays until you eventually go out to the mall with Evelyn, Miroslav, and Rachel to get to the point where you choose your approach.
I think it's on the fiona route but I wanted the evelyn route. I don't even remember picking fiona
 

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I think it's on the fiona route but I wanted the evelyn route. I don't even remember picking fiona
If you are on the Fion route go talk to Bobby and Adrian in the bathroom and see if you have the option to get Miroslav+Fionas sex tape.
The Evelyn choice is passive and has you doing nothing really. Miroslav will sabotage himself on that one.
 

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OH .... FUCKING .... DAMN .... GOD .....

Seems i am getting really old ....
I just had a complete new start to be 100% sure to "fix" my savegame(s), and even i played this game for such a long time now, i just NOW recognized an (intentional?) mistake in SAKURA's speech.

Every "L" is replaced by "R" to "simulate" her asian accent.
For example:
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... but actually Asian can't spell "R" as it sounds like "L" instead - so the other way around.

Shouldn't her accent be like "Oh, you will have a lot more than fingeL in mouth" ?

This goes for all her lines - like:
View attachment 2633856

"Do you aglee, masuta?"

But as it's consitent during all her lines, it makes it again like a "feature" though - lol
Not every L is hardswapped for R when that breaks through though.
Also it is explained quite early on that Sakura struggles to keep the speech up for longer amount of times and breaks it quite often. Specially when she gets angry or agitated.
 

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Not every L is hardswapped for R when that breaks through though.
Also it is explained quite early on that Sakura struggles to keep the speech up for longer amount of times and breaks it quite often. Specially when she gets angry or agitated.
sure - just the other way around would make her sound more asian imho. No offence though - as i said: i kinda like that as some form of "stylish feature".
I was more refering to the fact, that i recognized that "swap" just now after playing this game for so long.
 

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sure - just the other way around would make her sound more asian imho. No offence though - as i said: i kinda like that as some form of "stylish feature".
I was more refering to the fact, that i recognized that "swap" just now after playing this game for so long.
It's phonetic. So the way it's written and the way it would be spelled are two different things.
Would be weird for us to have it spelled correct in the reversed order while she would pronounce it with the broken asian accent.
 
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Not every L is hardswapped for R when that breaks through though.
Also it is explained quite early on that Sakura struggles to keep the speech up for longer amount of times and breaks it quite often. Specially when she gets angry or agitated.
when she gets angry (like when finding out that mc and rach have slipped away) or is distracted (rm show) she forgets to maintain speech.
 
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Its phonetic. So the way its written and the way it would be spelled are two different things.
Would be weird for us to have it spelled correct in the reversed order while she would pronounce it with the broken asian accent.
i know man - i am not dumb.

But again: asian struggle to get the "R" phonetic, as there is no such sound in their language. They tend to spell "r" as "L" and not the other way around as it's shown here.

So they phonetic sound like:
"ploblem" instead of "probrem" (just for example)

It's rather funny that the dev used the only characer ("R") asians can't spell at all in "phonetic written" text :ROFLMAO:
 

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i know man - i am not dumb.

But again: asian struggle to get the "R" phonetic, as there is no such sound in their language. They tend to spell "r" as "L" and not the other way around as it's shown here.

So they phonetic sound like:
"ploblem" instead of "probrem" (just for example)

It's rather funny that the dev used the only characer ("R") asians can't spell at all in "phonetic written" text :ROFLMAO:
Probably because "Sakura" whose real name is Rachel isn't asian but an American orphan?
Would make more sense for her to mock the accent and mess it up than actually speak with the broken L.
Just my opinion on it.
 

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Also from my understanding the R to L is not one way either. They struggle with both due to rules in their language when spoken.
It goes both ways so it's interchanged as they found it easier to pronounce words that have another letter with a specific rule in conjunction.
So talking like Mr.Miyagi here is probably correct if you wanna go that deep about a fake accent really.
They wouldn't write R as L is the thing.
I really like you - would still be written like that but said as "I rearry rike you" and not as "I leally like you"
 
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I really like you - would still be written like that but said as "I rearry rike you" and not as "I leally like you"
that's why i used "" to show the phonetics and NOT the syntax.

Anyways - i wasn't my intention to start a huge discussion about that, as it's off-topic though
 
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