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Did they actually improve the translation or is it mostly the same as the dev's mtl translation?
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It is better than the old MTL, but honestly I was hoping for a better quality overall, it's still a mess.
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Normally I don't jump on a game as quickly as I did with this one... but I was waiting for so long for at least ONE of this dev's games to have a passable English TL that I couldn't resist my curiosity. For the record though, I bought my copy from GoG and I don't know if it has any differences in terms of bugs or whatever when compared to the Steam release.
Moving on. I've heard all sorts of things about this dev's games over the years, including that they're supposedly hard, at least in terms of avoiding NTR and whatnot. I honestly don't know, I only ever tried one another way back when, saw that the TL was total hot garbage, then deleted off of my hard drive with record speed. I'd rather struggle to play the game in Japanese than risk getting an aneurysm from the word salad some of those "TLs" have.
Getting back to the point though, this game is not particularly hard, and it's not particularly long either. You can finish a playthrough in 2-3 hours relatively easily. At least on the Normal difficulty. I didn't really bother with the higher difficulties, because they're really just "numbers go bigger", which just makes the game more tedious rather than anything else. Dunno how well balanced those numbers are either, and it's debatable if it's worth exploring. It does make it notably more likely that the barbarians will win, so I suppose if you want more of that, they might be worth going for.
The game's mechanics are pretty basic though. It's more of a resource management game than anything else, since the "combat" is just you exchanging soldiers for other resources based on a specific formula. All of the game is essentially like that. You use soldiers to get Contribution and Gold, and also to prevent the loss of Women (particularly the 2 heroines) when dealing with the barbarians. You get soldiers through the use of Gold (inefficient and expensive) and from periodic Birthing Rituals which give results based on the number of women in the village and the amount of upgrades you have. So you have to balance your usage of soldiers vs the results you get from missions vs the need to defend from the periodic raids from the barbarians.
Then there's the time mechanic, where you basically get 2 actions per day. The game implies that there's 3, but the Morning slot is always filled with lectures from the Village Chief, and in the game world, the setting to skip them means you, the player, are skipping them, not that they don't happen. The Noon slot is the one that lets you do troop deployments, and you'll likely use it for that a lot of them time... but not all the time, since you may need to conserve troops at times. The night slot you'll use to interact with one of the heroines or work on the Orgy Hall if neither is available.
Why would the heroines not be available? Because they're "engaged" with a dude of their own via an arranged marriage type thing, and the Village Chief basically challenges the MC to prove himself enough that he can change that and get one or both girls engaged to himself, with the time limit being when the girls get married to the other dudes. You need to earn enough Contribution to change the contract, but also enough Favorability with one or both girls that they agree to that, and the longer it takes you, the more intimate the girls get with their respective betrothed. So aside from the hard time limit involving the marriage, there's a soft limit of sorts too if you don't want the girls to be dicked by the other guys, and that's not even counting the effects of the barbarian raids if you don't manage them well.
Oh, it's also worth noting that if the girls DO get fucked, they have a chance to get pregnant and if they do, they're the only ones that can give birth to special children that you can exchange for the 3rd type of soldier.
All in all, the concept is pretty good, though the execution of it is so-so. Because it's all a numbers game, playing the game well is a matter of understanding those numbers and how they interact more than anything else. On the Normal difficulty, it's entirely possible to get engaged to both girls before either girl loses their virginity to the "other guy" and then marry them. You can even impregnate them with the MC which will result in more Knights (the 3rd Troop Type) for you to use. That said, I'm not sure if it's possible to get them both before at least one of them ends up sucking the other guy's dick. You need 1000 Contribution for each AND 500 affection, and both of these things take a while to earn and are sort of mutually exclusive, on top of the fact that you need to spend Contribution on the Birth upgrades 1st.
One trick that helps is that for each "Season", there's a period that has a "Mercenary Sale", which discounts the gold cost of soldiers by 50%. This is pretty huge, because it causes Knights to go from 300 Gold to 150 Gold, which lets you get some way sooner than you would otherwise. Why does this matter? Well, Combat is won if 2 of your Troop Types win. Barbarians take a few seasons to deploy the 3rd Troop Type, which means you automatically win most fights for a while.
Also, each the 2nd and 3rd Troop Types seem to have some special properties to them that reduce their units loss in combat as long as they outnumber the enemy to a certain degree, with the Knights apparently not taking losses at all as long as they outnumber the enemy. I'm not sure about the exact details, because the text is cut off. Apparently, Shiravune wasn't able to fit it in properly. The point is, if you're careful, it's pretty easy to snowball into invincibility against the barbarians, and then your only concern is getting one or both girls, which is really just a matter of time.
Again, not sure how this would go on Hard and Very Hard. Depends a tad on how quickly the numbers inflate and on RNG. What I mean by that is that when the Barbarians raid the village successfully, they only take Women, and there's a chance that they also take one of the heroines. This is relevant because it's easier to recover the generic women as resources to keep the birth rate up, while recovering the heroines usually takes a bit of extra time, during which they're being trained and Brainwashed. This impacts you in the sense that it leaves you with less time to interact with the girls, and in the sense that you have to deal with their brainwashing to reduce its impact on your ability to raise Favorability with the girls, and that costs gold you could be using elsewhere.
Early on, you have to lose a fight aside from the tutorial fight, because you don't have the numbers to beat back the Barbarians. On Harder difficulties, you'll probably have to lose the first 2-3 fights at least, and you'll have a harder time doing missions, which means your Contribution will increase slower. Which overall primarily makes the game more tedious and it makes it more likely that one or both girls will lose their virginities to the other guys, but that's more of a consequence of the hard time limit involved there than anything to do with player skill. Dunno if I'll be assed to experiment with that stuff.
It's worth noting that the game's endings don't acknowledge whether the girls were or weren't virgins at the time of the ending... and as far as I can tell, they don't acknowledge anything at all as long as the MC marries one or both the girls. It's kind of weird that this is the case, because, if one of the girls loses her virginity to the other guy, even if she only has sex with him on one day, after that, even if you make her the MC's fiance, she will be unsatisfied with the sex she has with the MC (because of course the MC has the smallest dick in the whole geographic region) and as a consequence, she'll start cheating with the other guy as time passes.
This occurs even if you max out that girl's affection and fuck around with the MC so much that he can cum 8 or more times in a row and regularly gets the girl in question pregnant. It doesn't matter how many orgasms she has with the MC either. Naw fam. The size of the dick is the only thing that matters.
I suppose I should mention the MC having sex mechanic here. Once the MC switches the engagement of a girl to himself, he can have sex with her in any applicable time slot. The sex is basically you picking through a bunch of random animations however you want with no gauges or anything, and I haven't figured out what exactly about this allows the girls to accumulate orgasms from the MC. Seems random. What is mechanically relevant is that MC can cum a limited number of times per "day". He starts off with one due to a gauge of 100, and each time he has sex with one of the girls, the gauge increases by 15. So when it hits 200, he can cum twice and so on. The gauge is supposed to only refill by 3/4 per "day", but it seems like it gets a full refill.
The more times the MC can cum, the easier it is to impregnate one of the girls, and thus the easier it is to get special troops out of that girl. That said, that's the only clear thing, numerically. As mentioned above, I have no idea what affects the girl's "received orgasms" stat when triggering sex with the MC. Obviously, other guys can make them cum effortlessly. Because big dicks. D'oh. What did you expect?
The system is kinda lazy tbh. Like. Sure, the MC cumming more and being more likely to impregnate bitches is nice... but... it takes a while to get one or both of the girls, and after that, it doesn't take THAT long to gather the Contribution needed to end the game. Outside of you just keeping on playing, you'll basically never have a real chance to have the MC's cum gauge increase to a significant number because you'll likely end the game before it gets all that high. I dunno. I'd have liked to see more from that part of the game, but oh well I guess...
All in all, mechanically, the game is not bad. The ideas are good, it's just that the execution needed a bit more polish, and quite frankly, this is likely not much of a game for a lot of people. You just click buttons a lot. It's not a VN either, because there's essentially no real story here either. The possible permutations of smuttery are nice, but at the end of the day, you likely won't see a lot of them naturally unless you play on the higher difficulties, and possibly not even then depending on how the numbers look. Having to intentionally "lose" takes some of the fun out of things after all.
At this point it's worth noting that this game is not worth playing if your focus is story. There just isn't one. There's the minimal world building so you have context to what's happening and why. However, there isn't any plot aside from MC being the Village Chief Apprentice and needing to defend the village from the barbarians while trying to get the girl(s). There's no overarching plot or anything. There's not much in the way of character development or anything like that either. The mechanics and the sex are clearly the focus of the game.
So. What's the smut like, you may be wondering.
Well, that's a bit more and less interesting at the same time. The smut is divided into two types, essentially. One is VN type scenes with still CGs that occur under certain circumstances. There's a number of them involving the MC, but most of them involve one or both of the so called heroines either being trained by the Barbarians, interacting with the other guys, being forced to prostitute, being given to the Village Chief for contribution or being put up for group sex.
The other type of smut is animations and shadows appearing around town depending on what's going. As an example, if one of the girls reaches the stage where she's giving blowjobs to the other guy, at night, she may appear in the window of her home as a shadow doing exactly that. If the town is invaded, the girls may appear around town getting fucked by the barbarians. Same if they cheat on the MC because they're addicted to the other guy's dick... so on and so forth. Sadly, the animations are the same regardless of who's fucking the girl in question, and the sex ones are the same regardless of which girl is getting fucked... so there's not that much variety there.
It can still be pretty hot depending on what you like, but it's not as impressive as you'd expect given that there's two girls involved.
Mileage will obviously vary depending on how you like the art style too. Personally, I like it quite a bit, which is likely why I'm more lenient than other people might be in the same circumstances.
Oh, it's worth noting that there's some mini-animation things in the Heroine status screen when they're captured by the barbarians and away from the village. These are worth noting because they do not appear in the gallery, so if you want to see them, you need to get the girl(s) captured. They're not that big of a deal, but still. As far as I'm aware, that doesn't happen with anything else, but I haven't checked extensively either.
ANYway...
All in all, the game is decent, but nothing amazing. I'd say it's worth playing if you like rape and NTR themes and you like the art-style of course... but whether it's worth throwing money at it depends on more than that. If you like the management style gameplay and the way the smut is blended with the in-world stuff and whatnot, then it likely wouldn't hurt to support the dev and help this game get more sales to hopefully ensure that they throw more of their projects to Shiravune for better TLs. Personally, I consider it an ok investment of my limited smut funds. I've spent money on worse. XD
Moving on. I've heard all sorts of things about this dev's games over the years, including that they're supposedly hard, at least in terms of avoiding NTR and whatnot. I honestly don't know, I only ever tried one another way back when, saw that the TL was total hot garbage, then deleted off of my hard drive with record speed. I'd rather struggle to play the game in Japanese than risk getting an aneurysm from the word salad some of those "TLs" have.
Getting back to the point though, this game is not particularly hard, and it's not particularly long either. You can finish a playthrough in 2-3 hours relatively easily. At least on the Normal difficulty. I didn't really bother with the higher difficulties, because they're really just "numbers go bigger", which just makes the game more tedious rather than anything else. Dunno how well balanced those numbers are either, and it's debatable if it's worth exploring. It does make it notably more likely that the barbarians will win, so I suppose if you want more of that, they might be worth going for.
The game's mechanics are pretty basic though. It's more of a resource management game than anything else, since the "combat" is just you exchanging soldiers for other resources based on a specific formula. All of the game is essentially like that. You use soldiers to get Contribution and Gold, and also to prevent the loss of Women (particularly the 2 heroines) when dealing with the barbarians. You get soldiers through the use of Gold (inefficient and expensive) and from periodic Birthing Rituals which give results based on the number of women in the village and the amount of upgrades you have. So you have to balance your usage of soldiers vs the results you get from missions vs the need to defend from the periodic raids from the barbarians.
Then there's the time mechanic, where you basically get 2 actions per day. The game implies that there's 3, but the Morning slot is always filled with lectures from the Village Chief, and in the game world, the setting to skip them means you, the player, are skipping them, not that they don't happen. The Noon slot is the one that lets you do troop deployments, and you'll likely use it for that a lot of them time... but not all the time, since you may need to conserve troops at times. The night slot you'll use to interact with one of the heroines or work on the Orgy Hall if neither is available.
Why would the heroines not be available? Because they're "engaged" with a dude of their own via an arranged marriage type thing, and the Village Chief basically challenges the MC to prove himself enough that he can change that and get one or both girls engaged to himself, with the time limit being when the girls get married to the other dudes. You need to earn enough Contribution to change the contract, but also enough Favorability with one or both girls that they agree to that, and the longer it takes you, the more intimate the girls get with their respective betrothed. So aside from the hard time limit involving the marriage, there's a soft limit of sorts too if you don't want the girls to be dicked by the other guys, and that's not even counting the effects of the barbarian raids if you don't manage them well.
Oh, it's also worth noting that if the girls DO get fucked, they have a chance to get pregnant and if they do, they're the only ones that can give birth to special children that you can exchange for the 3rd type of soldier.
All in all, the concept is pretty good, though the execution of it is so-so. Because it's all a numbers game, playing the game well is a matter of understanding those numbers and how they interact more than anything else. On the Normal difficulty, it's entirely possible to get engaged to both girls before either girl loses their virginity to the "other guy" and then marry them. You can even impregnate them with the MC which will result in more Knights (the 3rd Troop Type) for you to use. That said, I'm not sure if it's possible to get them both before at least one of them ends up sucking the other guy's dick. You need 1000 Contribution for each AND 500 affection, and both of these things take a while to earn and are sort of mutually exclusive, on top of the fact that you need to spend Contribution on the Birth upgrades 1st.
One trick that helps is that for each "Season", there's a period that has a "Mercenary Sale", which discounts the gold cost of soldiers by 50%. This is pretty huge, because it causes Knights to go from 300 Gold to 150 Gold, which lets you get some way sooner than you would otherwise. Why does this matter? Well, Combat is won if 2 of your Troop Types win. Barbarians take a few seasons to deploy the 3rd Troop Type, which means you automatically win most fights for a while.
Also, each the 2nd and 3rd Troop Types seem to have some special properties to them that reduce their units loss in combat as long as they outnumber the enemy to a certain degree, with the Knights apparently not taking losses at all as long as they outnumber the enemy. I'm not sure about the exact details, because the text is cut off. Apparently, Shiravune wasn't able to fit it in properly. The point is, if you're careful, it's pretty easy to snowball into invincibility against the barbarians, and then your only concern is getting one or both girls, which is really just a matter of time.
Again, not sure how this would go on Hard and Very Hard. Depends a tad on how quickly the numbers inflate and on RNG. What I mean by that is that when the Barbarians raid the village successfully, they only take Women, and there's a chance that they also take one of the heroines. This is relevant because it's easier to recover the generic women as resources to keep the birth rate up, while recovering the heroines usually takes a bit of extra time, during which they're being trained and Brainwashed. This impacts you in the sense that it leaves you with less time to interact with the girls, and in the sense that you have to deal with their brainwashing to reduce its impact on your ability to raise Favorability with the girls, and that costs gold you could be using elsewhere.
Early on, you have to lose a fight aside from the tutorial fight, because you don't have the numbers to beat back the Barbarians. On Harder difficulties, you'll probably have to lose the first 2-3 fights at least, and you'll have a harder time doing missions, which means your Contribution will increase slower. Which overall primarily makes the game more tedious and it makes it more likely that one or both girls will lose their virginities to the other guys, but that's more of a consequence of the hard time limit involved there than anything to do with player skill. Dunno if I'll be assed to experiment with that stuff.
It's worth noting that the game's endings don't acknowledge whether the girls were or weren't virgins at the time of the ending... and as far as I can tell, they don't acknowledge anything at all as long as the MC marries one or both the girls. It's kind of weird that this is the case, because, if one of the girls loses her virginity to the other guy, even if she only has sex with him on one day, after that, even if you make her the MC's fiance, she will be unsatisfied with the sex she has with the MC (because of course the MC has the smallest dick in the whole geographic region) and as a consequence, she'll start cheating with the other guy as time passes.
This occurs even if you max out that girl's affection and fuck around with the MC so much that he can cum 8 or more times in a row and regularly gets the girl in question pregnant. It doesn't matter how many orgasms she has with the MC either. Naw fam. The size of the dick is the only thing that matters.
I suppose I should mention the MC having sex mechanic here. Once the MC switches the engagement of a girl to himself, he can have sex with her in any applicable time slot. The sex is basically you picking through a bunch of random animations however you want with no gauges or anything, and I haven't figured out what exactly about this allows the girls to accumulate orgasms from the MC. Seems random. What is mechanically relevant is that MC can cum a limited number of times per "day". He starts off with one due to a gauge of 100, and each time he has sex with one of the girls, the gauge increases by 15. So when it hits 200, he can cum twice and so on. The gauge is supposed to only refill by 3/4 per "day", but it seems like it gets a full refill.
The more times the MC can cum, the easier it is to impregnate one of the girls, and thus the easier it is to get special troops out of that girl. That said, that's the only clear thing, numerically. As mentioned above, I have no idea what affects the girl's "received orgasms" stat when triggering sex with the MC. Obviously, other guys can make them cum effortlessly. Because big dicks. D'oh. What did you expect?
The system is kinda lazy tbh. Like. Sure, the MC cumming more and being more likely to impregnate bitches is nice... but... it takes a while to get one or both of the girls, and after that, it doesn't take THAT long to gather the Contribution needed to end the game. Outside of you just keeping on playing, you'll basically never have a real chance to have the MC's cum gauge increase to a significant number because you'll likely end the game before it gets all that high. I dunno. I'd have liked to see more from that part of the game, but oh well I guess...
All in all, mechanically, the game is not bad. The ideas are good, it's just that the execution needed a bit more polish, and quite frankly, this is likely not much of a game for a lot of people. You just click buttons a lot. It's not a VN either, because there's essentially no real story here either. The possible permutations of smuttery are nice, but at the end of the day, you likely won't see a lot of them naturally unless you play on the higher difficulties, and possibly not even then depending on how the numbers look. Having to intentionally "lose" takes some of the fun out of things after all.
At this point it's worth noting that this game is not worth playing if your focus is story. There just isn't one. There's the minimal world building so you have context to what's happening and why. However, there isn't any plot aside from MC being the Village Chief Apprentice and needing to defend the village from the barbarians while trying to get the girl(s). There's no overarching plot or anything. There's not much in the way of character development or anything like that either. The mechanics and the sex are clearly the focus of the game.
So. What's the smut like, you may be wondering.
Well, that's a bit more and less interesting at the same time. The smut is divided into two types, essentially. One is VN type scenes with still CGs that occur under certain circumstances. There's a number of them involving the MC, but most of them involve one or both of the so called heroines either being trained by the Barbarians, interacting with the other guys, being forced to prostitute, being given to the Village Chief for contribution or being put up for group sex.
The other type of smut is animations and shadows appearing around town depending on what's going. As an example, if one of the girls reaches the stage where she's giving blowjobs to the other guy, at night, she may appear in the window of her home as a shadow doing exactly that. If the town is invaded, the girls may appear around town getting fucked by the barbarians. Same if they cheat on the MC because they're addicted to the other guy's dick... so on and so forth. Sadly, the animations are the same regardless of who's fucking the girl in question, and the sex ones are the same regardless of which girl is getting fucked... so there's not that much variety there.
It can still be pretty hot depending on what you like, but it's not as impressive as you'd expect given that there's two girls involved.
Mileage will obviously vary depending on how you like the art style too. Personally, I like it quite a bit, which is likely why I'm more lenient than other people might be in the same circumstances.
Oh, it's worth noting that there's some mini-animation things in the Heroine status screen when they're captured by the barbarians and away from the village. These are worth noting because they do not appear in the gallery, so if you want to see them, you need to get the girl(s) captured. They're not that big of a deal, but still. As far as I'm aware, that doesn't happen with anything else, but I haven't checked extensively either.
ANYway...
All in all, the game is decent, but nothing amazing. I'd say it's worth playing if you like rape and NTR themes and you like the art-style of course... but whether it's worth throwing money at it depends on more than that. If you like the management style gameplay and the way the smut is blended with the in-world stuff and whatnot, then it likely wouldn't hurt to support the dev and help this game get more sales to hopefully ensure that they throw more of their projects to Shiravune for better TLs. Personally, I consider it an ok investment of my limited smut funds. I've spent money on worse. XD
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For me it is the only game that I can support from the developer, so I did. I really like some of the other games and this is not one of the best games from kegani. I am eagerly waiting for the new game (on ci-en are some preview pics).
And yes, I only ever play these games on highest difficulty and even then, after understanding the games mechanics, its not that hard to stop the ntr. I mostly play on a knives edge in keeping the relationship to the other guys as high as possible while still keeping the girls in virgin status. But that playstyle only ever works in the other games like Time Loop and Not a Leader. In Pillaged Village it is to linear and to dependend on the time variable.
But good explanation overall and I can agree with most of your points.
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Huh, interesting. I tend to only play H-games on their standard/intended difficulty and not bother with others. The only times I did bother was with Venus Blood games, but those games actually have difficulty in the real sense and not just "numbers go BIG".
You're right about the linearity of it all though. Since a lot of stuff is based on the calendar stuff, that kind of puts a crimp on options, particularly when it comes to progress with the girls...
A number of this dev's games look interesting to me, and the one he's working on over on ci-en definitely looks interesting... so I definitely hope more will get proper TLs. I wonder why he picked this one to start with of all games though. Just looking at stuff on dlsite, it definitely feels like he has better games to get TLs for.
Hmm.... maybe it'd be worth dropping a comment on ci-en or something about the English release to encourage him to do more? Food for thought.
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One trick with the calendar is having one of them kidnapped when their fiancée event is supposed to happen, it pushed that specific event back 2 months.
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. Downloading issues? Look here.Can you avoid ntr in this game? I know this is asked before but it was when game in demo version.
If you manage the time/resources well enough you can maybe both of them on normal difficulty before they get fucked by anyone else.
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