Unity Abandoned Pizza Hot! [v0.12 Beta3] [Abelius]

[Zellgoddess]

Yes you can, omg so if the code exists to do so it takes 10 mins. Given the architecture allows it due to having opt ins in it that allow user input for scripters. 90% most do but it's only on premium versions of the architecture.

So let me explain somthing else, go read the eula agreement with any programming suite.(the program that let's you write programes using there architecture). In that you will find that by using any variation of there program limited licensing that you agree to there terms which state that you will not profit off any altered, hacked, or subjugated versions of there program and any attempt to do so you solemnly agree to the penal actions that apply. Meaning that version you downloaded and are using is not what a dev can use if they like there freedom or the house they currently live in. A lot of devs loose there lively hood over this very exact thing. Failure to read the eula agreement, dose not exempt you from its legally binding agreement.

So if you make any money whatsoever, and yes crowdfunding is a bit of a legal hogwash due to it's almost nature of non-profit, par say, however that's provided you can prove you havent spent a single dime of it on personal expenses that dont fall in the realm of work obligations.

O and btw patreon literally states this exact thing, and regularly checks its users are ligit on this. They will terminate there agreement with you if they find you negligent of it.

Why, I'm having a hard time with what you guys are saying. I know the companies that make the programming architecture programes all to well there not going to give away a feature like that for free. Any opt ins are in the paid suites of the programming architecture programes. Using any code otherwise is a infringement on the eula agreement of those programs and will set you life to dumpster fire mode, if your that stupid and use them to profit.

So I'll ask are you currently a game dev doing just that.


Now after all that's said, its pretty clear the dev takes way to long on updates. My reasoning is he is using the basic and not the premium, so he has to take a long bloody time coding stuff that would take you or a premium 10 mins.

 

[boobmanlord]

Reminder the dev has another game called Pizza Cold where it was a "parody" of this game where the sex happens on a faster pace. It has the abandoned flair. It boggles my mind a dev would split his resources up like that. Why not add those sluttier scenes as paths the player can take? Then you can go back and route the "realism" route while players have things to jerk to.

Thank those that are recommending similar games in here. Life is the longest thing there is but it's still too short to wait for your porn. There's a ton of great games that do have content. I love the idea of Pizza Hot and I was firmly in the Pizza Hot camp when Pizza Cold came out. Slow burn is my jam but if your erection lasts this long, consult another game.

 

[DreamingAway]

If it goes on for several updates that you are incapable of making your own decisions for how the character should react, then I would be inclined to agree.

The game is 3+ years in development.

 

[FutureSuperhero]

PC version, for some reason it will not load after I unzip the files

 

[Bzshr]

My point is, this game takes a long time to update, and the time it takes comes from Abelius being a lone programmer with insanely high standards. When you want to implement a feature, you start to see things that depend on that feature, and things that you had already made that need to be changed. Somewhere along the process you have to draw the line on how much you are willing to change, and how much time you are willing to spend changing every part of the process. This is also a problem with software engineering. If you have the whole thing planned out before you start, the process tends to go more smoothly, but even then, unexpected things just happen.

Abelius doesn't seem to have a trello set up anymore or some kind of software to keep track of what has to be done, even if in private. In my opinion, delivered from experience, thats is a big problem, not having all the steps planned out, not having a grasp on what every step of the process might be, or what these steps might require. He does seem to understand that this is important, and takes steps to program the game in a way that helps him account for future updates, yet he still finds himself having to fix and remake a lot, every update. That might be because he is the only one working in the code and cant really see things from another angle.

The game doesn't only seem to be a way for him to make a living, he also wants to keep the standards very high, maybe he lacks experience leading projects or organizing projects, which is very common even if you have worked in the industry before. But its undeniable that he has a vision for the project and is doing his best to accomplish it, while trying to make a living off of it in the process. However, the frequency in which even his best, not so well organized, process can generate new content and updates does not equal the promises he usually makes. On the start of the project, creating new content was easy, it could be done fast, he even made another game almost to prove this point to himself. But it didn't really work like that. And now, he can deliver 12 scenes in a 2 month long update.

There seems to be some problems with his own expectations and planning on what he is realistically able to do, and what is realistic for the project in general.

I completely agree on this take. Dev seems like a perfectionist, though I also think he prefers adding new technical content on his game, and appealing to the story progression later. I could feel it when he explained why 0.11 took so long, he took his time explaining the features he have added, but at the end of the day, it's only a framework that does not add any story to the game. It looked like he started on the idea, hits a roadblock, completely develops a new system for that roadblock, and what do you know, months have passed without him doing anything about the story.

From a programmer's perspective, what he did was awesome. He now has a framework that he can keep using on multiple scenes, on multiple areas, and it wouldn't take too long for him to create these scenes anymore, while keeping the animation quality high. But that's about it, on his perspective he poured a ton of work on his game, it was sadly a self service. From the outside perspective, he wasted several months and only provided a tiny amount of content for the game. And thus, a lot of negativity about the game had been thrown, I believe he deleted his F95 account after the release of 0.11 too, probably trying to escape the negativity.

And now, the dev's reputation is now of providing little content months at a time. It felt like he's not respecting everyone's time and money, and his community is now doing the same - by leaking the 0.12 beta version immediately. They no longer respect his time too, which obviously makes it really upsetting for the dev.

I believe the dev needs more accountability, and probably a project manager as well. Sometimes, adding new features to the unfinished game can be counter-productive. Case in point, dev wants height variety on all the characters in the game. Sounds awesome, but it adds an extra layer of complexity now that animations won't align. But the dev dived into it anyway. Would it look good? Definitely. Is it a ton of work? Yes, most likely. He needs to modify his animation framework to automatically adjust parameters when there are height differences. Is it worth it? Long run, yes. But now when people are expecting updates from you after you've been gone for months without? Probably not..

All in all, it's sad to hear the dev being frustrated by the leak. However, he needs to respect the time and money that people are pouring onto his project. I hope he understands that, and plan out his game more, perhaps restart communicating again here instead of just being in discord, explain his progress for the month, etc. I do think he is capable of making monthly releases once he has enough groundwork done, but for how long, now that's the question to ask.

 

[johnyakuza1]

0.12 Save File attached below:

- All Humper scenes unlocked
- All Skip Work options unlocked
- Max stats and all clothes unlocked

Notes:

Overall, I liked the update, it was way more fun than 0.11.

There is no gallery this time around, so use individual saves to watch any of the 12 scenes that you wish. Interact with the bed to start the scene and choose not to pay rent.

 

[Baydeah]

idk if i completed all, i saw the green text on landlord one and bus, but the masseur i didnt see any green text but i have no more options available after the bikini bottom so im like dont know if missing something, the same happen with boss, when i go to punishment mode and accept the offer i only can do light spank idk if its the limit, with the girl friend i cant progress in shower only head massage and nothing more, as maid i got landlord fap moment when i clean and in the night i got that she can masturb MC, am i missing any content or i ended all?

 

[Nice_Guy69]

So to get the 12 scenes, so that's' 12 weeks of not paying rent, that's skipping a day 4*12 times, with auto saves on each cycle... right?
I was happy to fund the game when he was developing the cafe and bus content, but I pulled funding when I heard there was a whole update of the fat & ugly landlord, no one wants that content.

Wrong. The thing with the old ugly man is exactly what i am looking for the most. Absolutely hot.

 

[hieuluc5]

We are still here because we care about this game. But he is not respect everyone time, with boring grinding. (Even a fan of slow corruption like me can't endure). After 2 years, no real improvement in Pizza waitress mini games, no more scene in that. He even makes an *anti-cheat* implemented to cap exhibition number. After many months, the change log still long as F, but just 10% of this is something news. To this point I think there is no future, even with 12 scenes recently, because it's just boring *skip day to monday* > *No pay* > *Scene happened*. Why not somewhere else, different situation, with literality that number of contents, it should be so so so much better. No variation, you feel like a mice look at a cheese and never get it.
About good corruption game: I recommend Corruption Town, Village Slut Transformation, Fashion Business, KimberlysLife, Photohunt, Being a DIK, VIRTUES, Nymphomania Paradox, Every NLT Games, RJ01141999, AnnaExcitingAffection, MilfyCity, Jessica O'Neil, Timestamps, Lisa and of course - Insexity.

 

[R1k0]

We are still here because we care about this game. But he is not respect everyone time, with boring grinding. (Even a fan of slow corruption like me can't endure). After 2 years, no real improvement in Pizza waitress mini games, no more scene in that. He even makes an *anti-cheat* implemented to cap exhibition number. After many months, the change log still long as F, but just 10% of this is something news. To this point I think there is no future, even with 12 scenes recently, because it's just boring *skip day to monday* > *No pay* > *Scene happened*. Why not somewhere else, different situation, with literality that number of contents, it should be so so so much better. No variation, you feel like a mice look at a cheese and never get it.
About good corruption game: I recommend Corruption Town, Village Slut Transformation, Fashion Business, KimberlysLife, Photohunt, Being a DIK, VIRTUES, Nymphomania Paradox, Every NLT Games, RJ01141999, AnnaExcitingAffection, MilfyCity, Jessica O'Neil, Timestamps, Lisa and of course - Insexity.

There is a special recommendation section on this site. It doesn't work like that, what is good for one may not be good for another, please don't spam games that you like, this is the "Pizza hot" game page.

 

[JustaDudeMan]

Played the new content and enjoyed it. I've always said the game is good but the content is slow.

 

[pidarblyat609]

I like Abelius' games, but they take way too long for development no matter the reason.

I'm getting LOK Rebirth flashbacks

 

[RobAlson244]

There is a special recommendation section on this site. It doesn't work like that, what is good for one may not be good for another, please don't spam games that you like, this is the "Pizza hot" game page.

My apologies, I didn't know we had a recommendation section. I'll go there from now on when I have requests. Though I do thank joeschmoe12345 for the links. I've played some of those before but there are a few that are new to me and I'm enjoying them.

 

[Liero]

The game is 3+ years in development.

And your point is?
The amount of updates are still the same. Abelius is slow, big whoop. Are you paying every month for his patreon or subscribestar?
In that case, don't.

The point of my comment was to say that I do not think Abelius is a liar due to the lack of options you have as a character at the moment, as he hasn't taken the time to implement those yet. He is taking a "quicker" route towards what perhaps most people wanna see, the character getting into some NSFW stuff. However, how he does that is up for discussion wherever or not it's good practice to do or not. But it's a pattern of development I have seen from several other games on this forum, where they will sacrifice certain routes in order to focus on the "main" one.
I think Abelius is heavily misguided in how to set proper priority's when making this game, but do I think that makes him a liar? No.
Being a liar and being bad at figuring out the best way to do something is not the same thing.

I would also recommend that if you want to support someone through Patreon or Subscribestar, only invest what you can afford and stop supporting them the months you don't see any significant progress. In the end, no one is holding your wallet hostage.

 

[DreamingAway]

And your point is?

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Me: "Character Agency is not a priority behind the design of this game"

I wouldn't say it's a lie "yet". If it goes on for several updates that you are incapable of making your own decisions for how the character should react, then I would be inclined to agree.

Me: "Well the game has had about 17 major updates over the course of 3 years, player agency is still not a feature.. When do you start agreeing then?"

 

[thisistheme]

Question: What are those consequences mentioned for people beeing unhappy?

 

[Liero]

--

Me: "Character Agency is not a priority behind the design of this game"

Corruption first, agency later. As I attempted to explain in perhaps a poor manner.

Me: "Well the game has had about 17 major updates over the course of 3 years, player agency is still not a feature.. When do you start agreeing then?"

I would agree after the arbitrary number of 20 updates. Gotta be MAJOR ONES as you said. Minor ones for bug fixes don't count. If he adds no way outside of the current tutorial ways of teaching you the "game mechanics", I'll agree.

 

[oopsalot]

idk if i completed all, i saw the green text on landlord one and bus, but the masseur i didnt see any green text but i have no more options available after the bikini bottom so im like dont know if missing something, the same happen with boss, when i go to punishment mode and accept the offer i only can do light spank idk if its the limit, with the girl friend i cant progress in shower only head massage and nothing more, as maid i got landlord fap moment when i clean and in the night i got that she can masturb MC, am i missing any content or i ended all?

That's everything until the next update.

 

[Dix Dark]

I forgot this exists, I thought it was abandoned 2 years ago or something...

 

[GentlyUsedCondom]

I forgot this exists, I thought it was abandoned 2 years ago or something...

It probably was, just the "final" update was chopped in pieces and slowly released to have some semblance of it still being developed for cash.