VN Ren'Py Playing the Girlfriend [v0.1] [NoctaEterni]

[Filipis]

So, are you guys saying that both choices lead to an NTR path, one where the husband is fully aware and one where he isn't? I would assume the one where he's aware is an NTS path. Unless you really want him to suffer, lol.

No, because the dev confirms that by telling the husband the FMC can stay faithful to him - presumably by not crossing some lines in pretending to be Tyrone’s girlfriend.

 

[Xill]

No, because the dev confirms that by telling the husband the FMC can stay faithful to him - presumably by not crossing some lines in pretending to be Tyrone’s girlfriend.

These seem like two different things though. By what the dev has said, you can choose to cross lines or not, regardless of what you tell the husband. Basically, even if you don't tell the husband, you can still stay loyal.

 

[Filipis]

These seem like two different things though. By what the dev has said, you can choose to cross lines or not, regardless of what you tell the husband. Basically, even if you don't tell the husband, you can still stay loyal.

I’m going to assume telling your husband is a prerequisite for staying loyal, otherwise what’s the point in lying to the husband if nothing is going on?

 

[Xill]

I’m going to assume telling your husband is a prerequisite for staying loyal, otherwise what’s the point in lying to the husband if nothing is going on?

Many reasons. She doesn't want him to think that something might happen. Not wanting to go into details, especially if she believes nothing will happen. Whether or not she stays loyal doesn't matter. She can still stay loyal but not divulge the exact details.

 

[NoctaEterni]

I'm only going off of what the dev has said about the paths, literally 2 posts above yours.

He says the wife will be able to stay faithful (except maybe occasionally kissing Tyrone) if you so choose.

Frankly, I'd rather we have a weak "Loyal" path + a proper NTR romance path, then a half-assed NTS path when it doesn't make sense here.

A faithful path does exist, but over time players who choose it will miss out on more and more game content as the relationship between Amber and Tyrone develops in the main story path… Because of course the main route is Amber’s growing relationship with Tyrone, and depending on the choices you make, the husband will either be aware of everything, or Amber will be hiding the truth from him.

 

[NoctaEterni]

The way I see it based on what we've been told. There's going to be two main paths and two sub-paths. We can already make a choice for the main ones in the first version right now. That's whether or not to tell the husband what the plan involves.

That's a choice the FMC makes when it comes to her husband.

From what the dev is saying, it looks like the FMC will be making choices with Tyrone as well. Accept or reject his advances.

So now you have a few paths where:
- You tell the husband, and accept Tyrone's advances.
- You tell the husband, and reject Tyrone's advances.
- You hide the full plan from the husband, and accept Tyrone's advances.
- You hide the full plan from the husband, and reject Tyrone's advances.

Although the dev also mentioned that we'll get a choice to help Brenda or not. But I'm not sure if that's supposed to be the same thing as accepting or rejecting Tyrone's advances. Not sure how it would work anyway if we don't help Brenda considering the entire story seems to be focused on that.

Exacly. That’s the plan: two main routes, depending on whether the truth about the form of help given to Brenda’s son is revealed, with sub-routes branching from the choice to cross boundaries, which in turn leads to the development of a relationship with Tyrone. However, if the faithful wife route is chosen, then as that relationship with Tyrone progresses, players will gradually lose access to more and more game content, since the focus of the game will shift onto that dynamic.

 

[Filipis]

Exacly. That’s the plan: two main routes, depending on whether the truth about the form of help given to Brenda’s son is revealed, with sub-routes branching from the choice to cross boundaries, which in turn leads to the development of a relationship with Tyrone. However, if the faithful wife route is chosen, then as that relationship with Tyrone progresses, players will gradually lose access to more and more game content, since the focus of the game will shift onto that dynamic.

In essence, what you're saying is: telling the husband the truth is the "faithful" route (and if you keep telling the truth, you stay on it), while lying to him about Tyrone is the NTR route - with the confirmation that this game will primarily focus on the NTR path for the wife and staying faithful means having less and less content (as it should be).

But it won't be a singular choice between paths, yes? You will have to keep lying or keep being honest with your husband, depending on the type of path you want - but after a certain point, you won't have options to cross boundaries anymore (depending on your path), correct?

 

[wolfling11]

A faithful path does exist, but over time players who choose it will miss out on more and more game content as the relationship between Amber and Tyrone develops in the main story path… Because of course the main route is Amber’s growing relationship with Tyrone, and depending on the choices you make, the husband will either be aware of everything, or Amber will be hiding the truth from him.

Wow nice a True NTR story which is grounded(i think)

 

[Xill]

In essence, what you're saying is: telling the husband the truth is the "faithful" route (and if you keep telling the truth, you stay on it),

You will be able to tell the truth to the husband while still doing stuff with Tyrone. That doesn't seem very faithful to me tho.

 

[Filipis]

You will be able to tell the truth to the husband while still doing stuff with Tyrone. That doesn't seem very faithful to me tho.

That's the weird part about dev's explanations so far.

I once again presume that if the FMC keeps telling the husband everything that happens with Tyrone, she won't be able to cross certain boundaries - but if the FMC keeps her relationship with Tyrone a secret, then she will be able to.

That's how I understood it, at least.

 

[TonyMurray]

That's the weird part about dev's explanations so far.

I once again presume that if the FMC keeps telling the husband everything that happens with Tyrone, she won't be able to cross certain boundaries - but if the FMC keeps her relationship with Tyrone a secret, then she will be able to.

That's how I understood it, at least.

There's no reason that she wouldn't be able to cross those boundaries if she's telling the husband everything, that's pretty standard pathing for these games. Nothing the dev has said (that I've seen) has suggested that it won't be possible for her to do that.

The way I see it, there are two main routes (as the dev confirmed earlier), and then sub-routes that come along with the choice to cross the line or not, so:

Route 1: She tells her husband the whole story
- Sub route 1: She starts doing stuff with Tyrone at some point
- Sub route 2: She doesn't start doing stuff with Tyrone
Route 2: She keeps her husband in the dark about the plan
- Sub route 3: She starts doing stuff with Tyrone at some point
- Sub route 4: She doesn't start doing stuff with Tyrone

 

[Xill]

That's the weird part about dev's explanations so far.

I once again presume that if the FMC keeps telling the husband everything that happens with Tyrone, she won't be able to cross certain boundaries - but if the FMC keeps her relationship with Tyrone a secret, then she will be able to.

That's how I understood it, at least.

Right. You're assuming that choices you make with Tyrone are dependent on the choices you make with the husband. That's not the case. They are two different sets of choices. Whatever you do with Tyrone, you can decide that you can talk or not talk about with the husband.

Like what the post above me says, and what I wrote in the previous page.

 

[Saerwen]

I wish the dev focused purely on NTR genre we need more pure genre focused games than games trying to please large crowds which ends up pleasing nobody

Every day/week there is at least one NTR game, especially AI phone. NTR genre is oversaturated enough.

 

[Filipis]

There's no reason that she wouldn't be able to cross those boundaries if she's telling the husband everything, that's pretty standard pathing for these games. Nothing the dev has said (that I've seen) has suggested that it won't be possible for her to do that.

The way I see it, there are two main routes (as the dev confirmed earlier), and then sub-routes that come along with the choice to cross the line or not, so:

Route 1: She tells her husband the whole story
- Sub route 1: She starts doing stuff with Tyrone at some point
- Sub route 2: She doesn't start doing stuff with Tyrone
Route 2: She keeps her husband in the dark about the plan
- Sub route 3: She starts doing stuff with Tyrone at some point
- Sub route 4: She doesn't start doing stuff with Tyrone

Right. You're assuming that choices you make with Tyrone are dependent on the choices you make with the husband. That's not the case. They are two different sets of choices. Whatever you do with Tyrone, you can decide that you can talk or not talk about with the husband.

Like what the post above me says, and what I wrote in the previous page.

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The problem with this theory is that the dev clearly said he is not interested in telling an NTS story; how does telling the husband about having sex with Tyrone classify as NTR??

 

[Xill]

The problem with this theory is that the dev clearly said he is not interested in telling an NTS story; how does telling the husband about having sex with Tyrone classify as NTR??

It's not really a theory of the dev confirmed it though.

As is quoted:

A faithful path does exist, but over time players who choose it will miss out on more and more game content as the relationship between Amber and Tyrone develops in the main story path… Because of course the main route is Amber’s growing relationship with Tyrone, and depending on the choices you make, the husband will either be aware of everything, or Amber will be hiding the truth from him.

Look at the bolded part.

BTW, the husband knowing doesn't mean its NTS at all. He might not like it, or agree with it. That classifies it as NTR. Choosing not to tell him makes it "hidden NTR".

For NTS he'd have to be ok with it and like it.

 

[Filipis]

It's not really a theory of the dev confirmed it though.

As is quoted:



Look at the bolded part.

BTW, the husband knowing doesn't mean its NTS at all. He might not like it, or agree with it. That classifies it as NTR. Choosing not to tell him makes it "hidden NTR".

For NTS he'd have to be ok with it and like it.

Yeah, but that’s cuckolding - which is NTS. There is no NTR if the husband is being constantly told by his wife that she is fucking another man just because he doesn’t like it.

NoctaEterni Will this game have NTS after all or not??

 

[Joshy92]

How's it even NTR when we aren't the one getting cheated on? We play as the woman who does the cheating.

 

[Saerwen]

There's no NTR in this game, it's just cheating. Like another user said: "Where the protagonist is the perpetrator, it's technically cheating rather than netorare. If it involved someone elses love interest, then it could be netori, but that doesn't apply in this instance. Netorare is cheating, but it's from the perspective of the victim, which would mean husband would have to be the protagonist. Because netorare is essentially the feelings of jealousy, humiliation and angst aroused by the cheating or perceived cheating of a love interest of the protagonist, that then (sometimes) arouses sexual pleasure in them. In this instance that doesn't happen, so it can't be netorare. The player has to view it all through husband's eyes, but instead we see it through FMCs eyes. Therefore it's simply cheating and not netorare".

 

[Saerwen]

How's it even NTR when we aren't the one getting cheated on? We play as the woman who does the cheating.

Mommy's Boy is the only game that have true NTR from FMCs perspective where her son who is love interest is stolen.

 

[Filipis]

There's no NTR in this game, it's just cheating. Like another user said: "Where the protagonist is the perpetrator, it's technically cheating rather than netorare. If it involved someone elses love interest, then it could be netori, but that doesn't apply in this instance. Netorare is cheating, but it's from the perspective of the victim, which would mean husband would have to be the protagonist. Because netorare is essentially the feelings of jealousy, humiliation and angst aroused by the cheating or perceived cheating of a love interest of the protagonist, that then (sometimes) arouses sexual pleasure in them. In this instance that doesn't happen, so it can't be netorare. The player has to view it all through husband's eyes, but instead we see it through FMCs eyes. Therefore it's simply cheating and not netorare".

That’s true, but it doesn’t change the argument that it’s not really cheating if the husband knows about it (from the wife herself), doesn’t like it, but also doesn’t do anything about it.

Well, technically it’s still cheating - but it’s not compelling in the slightest.