Ren'Py Polyturnon [v0.18] [ZinkoPoly]

[NotEnoughHats]

Where can I find the Secretary's Sister? I can only find her in bed at night and randomly found her in the East Hallway once at 11am, but she never spawned ever again.

 

[Hales_the_comet]

Where can I find the Secretary's Sister? I can only find her in bed at night and randomly found her in the East Hallway once at 11am, but she never spawned ever again.

Swimming pool from 12-4 in the afternoon. Then you can find her in her room late at night around 11

 

[nova_potato]

Some of the events are pretty rare, so I opened the console and made this change:

for x in range(0,381): allevents.allevents[x].chance=90

This updates the chance of occurrence for every event to be 90%. This results in things happening a lot more often. Use at your own risk as it might break something.
To enter the text in the console, you have to change config.console to True in renpy/common/00console.rpy then hit shift+O when the game is running.

 

[hoborg]

Some of the events are pretty rare, so I opened the console and made this change:

for x in range(0,381): allevents.allevents[x].chance=90

This updates the chance of occurrence for every event to be 90%. This results in things happening a lot more often. Use at your own risk as it might break something.
To enter the text in the console, you have to change config.console to True in renpy/common/00console.rpy then hit shift+O when the game is running.

Thank you, this really cuts the grind out, i had given up on even attempting to figure out how to get things to trigger and resigned to wait for an update.
Up to this point I thinking there wasn't any content with the first 2 girls in class two.

 

[Morrister]

Ok, hello Dev. To say it's rare that I'd bother to make an account on these kinds of forums is... well. an understatement. But it's rare I note someone putting out this much content on a first release (even using a very basic and ugly engine).

Some input:

Meta:

1) Ignore any / all feedback regarding kinks / sexual tastes etc. It's subjective nonsense and won't make you money. 99% of the people complaining about NTR or lesbians or how they hate clown make-up do not pay for your product. Ignore them. If the game is good - they'll play through it anyway.
2) Read the stuff about user feedback - there's at least three people here telling you what you need to prioritise in your next build (hint: it ain't more content) and most of them are correct.

Stuff that will make you money and needs to be in v0.2:

1) Quit the cute bullshit: this is a (really quite impressive) 0.1 release. Stick to that: hint every other game uses it, and all the search engine algos react to that, not some silly 0.00000000001v build. Rename it, and the files, ASAP. You name it v0.1 because... that's what it is, that's what makes sense to everyone and that's what makes sense to search engines. Sure, you can name your next release "0.1sdfsgdgh210123BEEP"... but guess what? Search engines will ignore it. This is bad (for your pocket).

2) You need to code a visual system to show where each woman is in the game world. Flat out - you need visual representation of each room and a little floating tag (usually top left of the icon) showing if an interaction is possible at that time. Currently you have five dorms with eight people in each and no way for the player to tell if randomly clicking them leads to anything. This is a death sentence - I almost got RSI just checking out your current build design. Code that puppy before you add more renders. Hint says: "Talk to her in her room after class" .... if I have to click the same room on 1hr progressions to even attempt to trigger this nebulous content, you've annoyed me.
2a) Code a time progression system ASAP. Click the button, +1 hr. Do it.

3) For the love of god put some effort into the MC and his penis. It randomly changes size in different scenes and he's currently a plastic doll. Does this matter? Yes. Aesthetic penis model = hook for horney players, it's easier to relate to. Having a plastic mushroom oddity that randomly grows a foot is not. No, you're not using a current gen model system, but it doesn't have to be... so fucking beige.

4) The GUI on the list of women: you've the right idea (bunching them and sorting, shows good planning, here's hoping you've actually planned and mapped your Progress Chart out) but you need a GUI. I'd strongly suggest making copy/paste of icons from your locations and then creating a "spider web" off of them when you click them. e.g. Splash is each location, you click a location and up pops each woman with their face as an icon. Your engine is really not good enough for me to visually identify one of the 100 characters at a glance without references.
4a) Make your icons not squares /rectangles. It looks terrible. This goes for locations through the entire project. People want to masturbate, hard corners are bad for this (the Mind starts doing Maths).
4b) Looking at the overall design - go with a Pyramid/Diamond then fanned circle splash. Have the GUI start with a Diamond (Mansion top, College Left, Downtown Right, Park/Homes Bottom) that when you click does a little splash around them. Nesting is fine (esp. for dormitories). The idea is that if a player wants to see, for example, who is available in the dorms, they do this: CLICK MANSION ICON > CLICK (E/W) DORM ICON FROM SPLASH > NESTED ICONS POP UP AROUND THAT ICON--- so the player can see instantly if there's any interactions available. You want the maximum information displayed using icons per click.
4c) Text lists are for Accountants, not pr0n users. "One handed navigation".... is not a joke or a funny line, it's literally your design maxim (and if you end up doing an android port, you'll thank me for this later). You probably should code a nice pink circle around women who still have content and a nice blue one for those whose content is completed: Players will not care (if you keep up content) if woman #19 has no content this build as long as you make it graphically clear and easy for players who are returning to your game to immediately note which of the 68 Waifus HAVE NEW CONTENT. This is paramount: code it now, save yourself drama later. Literally, you're asking people to strap into a wild 2-4 year ride where their cash might get them some Xmas renders. At least make it easy for them: doing so will up your monetization by ~23% roughly. Seriously.

5) Fix your cum graphics: currently it's bright white 0,0,0 RGB and looks like a rendering error or nuclear flash. Cum is hard, especially on older engines (seriously): but making it radioactive white is a bad choice.

6) Ignore players voting for content: it just slows you down. Make the content you're feeling enthused about. Literally, the death of this type of game is Patreon / Milking and users doing content votes in lieu of actually getting the game they paid for. I mean, sure: do it, but know the mechanics of it and how utterly you're taking the piss out of these Patreon fools.

Stuff you need to work over in v0.3:

1) Story. Yes, yes: your MC is a super-rich play-boy who is apparently so sexy the furniture wants to fuck him. But get some kind of story / progression / thread going. Ideally have at least three major event sequences mapped out and build around adding more. e.g. perhaps there's a fire at the college (meaning protagonist has to rescue / do events to help) or there's an upcoming opening town fair for the new island which the player has to contribute to. At the moment there's little real game friction to drive player engagement (because, literally, he has to put zero effort into anything to get everyone to sleep with him). Add a bit of work (not grind, please not grind, there's a difference) and positive player feedback will increase. Also remember: if you're adding fetch quests (i.e. get McGuffin from X, via Y to give to Z) you really need a responsive hint system, your players are usually not very smart.

2) Ignore any / all feedback or votes or content pushes via player feedback: this kills projects. Churn it out, do what you want to do and they'll still wank to it. If required add a skip button for those wall-flowers who really can't handle NTR but apart from that: go wild and ignore the feedback.

3) Buy a copy of the karma sutra; do some research; spend a good month learning how to model non-vanilla positions. Trust me on this. You're using an old gen engine (which is fine, uncanny valley is a thing), but missionary #230 with waifu #53 will merge into missionary #1923 with waifu #68 if you're not careful. You've got the right basic idea with tropes so far (e.g. goth girlfriend etc), try to make each waifu distinct otherwise they serve no purpose in your game for player engagement, just using your time / GPU cycles.

4) Draw up a design doc and plan out routines for at least 40 of your menagerie. Currently there's some questionable choices for location density and event spread, mainly due to the College being so heavy on characters e.g. Why is the nightclub closed / not active during the weekends? Friday night should be stretched to Sat / Sun night. Likewise, since college is a major focal point, do two things: add a cafeteria / sports area (etc etc) to allow non-class interactions and flesh out the Park / Homes a bit more - add a scenic mountain trail, a woods etc. At the moment the weighting for events is a bit janky: ideally, you'll want 2-4 possible events in each section / three hour segment, enough to give the player a real feeling of "open world" but not too much that every time they move they're hit with another event (event fatigue, especially if 90% of them are sexual, will actually damage the player's experience: refractory periods / actually playing the game is part of why people aren't just watching Pr0nTube or whatever).

5) Since you have a stat system (which is largely unrequired at this point, tbh), give good visual feedback on the character cards of potential unlocks. e.g. If event X happens at Hate 40, put a marker on the stat field. Players need this to a) know what to aim for and b) focus their attention / desire on the characters they prefer. Doing this = player satisfaction = more money for you (we hope).



Anyhow. Post #1. Why? Because Dev actually seems to have put some effort in and while not original, actually has some talent under her belt. While using an old gen engine, so is probably poor as a mouse as well. Good luck dev: and remember - ignore any fool stating lesbians are bad in a pr0n game. Utter Muppet.

Edited with a bit more detail - wall of text ends.

I wanted to clap react, but there's no such react here. This is quite the contribution, I completely agree that these ideas should be adopted.

This game has great potential

 

[Morrister]

first of all ZinkoPoly thank you for doing this game and sharing it here, it's quite amazing what you're presenting us, and in the very first release!
I just maximized every relationship, only trying to get this scene now

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I guess it's at the gym public bath, probably on the evening? (considering not the renders but the schedules of these girls) Haven't had much luck, trying it in every hour of the day multiple times (entering and leaving gym repeatedly).
I could look at the code to try to figure it out, but I don't want to or I'll be tempted to change the probability of events and I don't want to risk doing that.

 

[Morrister]

Oh and also, the 10am reunion with headmaid and secretary keeps on being the same plain one
remains unchanged even after:
- headmaid hinted that it would be somehow different at the shyer girls shower time.
- getting Sylvie (the red-haired school assistant) interested in joining the meeting

 

[Diky7]

I need help to complete all girls question can you help me guys? come chat me discord

 

[ZinkoPoly]

first of all ZinkoPoly thank you for doing this game and sharing it here, it's quite amazing what you're presenting us, and in the very first release!
I just maximized every relationship, only trying to get this scene now

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I guess it's at the gym public bath, probably on the evening? (considering not the renders but the schedules of these girls) Haven't had much luck, trying it in every hour of the day multiple times (entering and leaving gym repeatedly).
I could look at the code to try to figure it out, but I don't want to or I'll be tempted to change the probability of events and I don't want to risk doing that.

Glad you like the game!

This scene occurs between 5pm and 6pm at the Public Baths. The girls all need to be progressed, which it sounds like you have. The day needs to be at least the 11th day in game. Also, Yurie (the green haired girl from S'Mart) and Serafina (the blue hair surfer lingo girl from Class Four) both need to have been fucked at least twice.

 

[ZinkoPoly]

Oh and also, the 10am reunion with headmaid and secretary keeps on being the same plain one
remains unchanged even after:
- headmaid hinted that it would be somehow different at the shyer girls shower time.
- getting Sylvie (the red-haired school assistant) interested in joining the meeting

There will be more content in the future for both items. Currently these are both dead end leads.

Also, I goofed on the MC's progress. After the shyer girls shower time, the MC was supposed to go up one progress. This has been remedied in v0.002 and saves will be fixed on load.

 

[Hales_the_comet]

Hello! I have managed to progress and max out every relationship except for Faithe. Currently looking for tips to progress with her (haven't progressed beyond her room scene)

 

[ZinkoPoly]

Hello! I have managed to progress and max out every relationship except for Faithe. Currently looking for tips to progress with her (haven't progressed beyond her room scene)

Faithe (hipster student, Class Three) can be progressed by the following steps after the room scene:
1) See her in the Showers at least once (6am)
2) Have 10+ Love, 10- Anger, and 10+ Slutty
3) Find her on the Public Beach between 8pm and 11pm

Hope that helps!

 

[Morrister]

Glad you like the game!

This scene occurs between 5pm and 6pm at the Public Baths. The girls all need to be progressed, which it sounds like you have. The day needs to be at least the 11th day in game. Also, Yurie (the green haired girl from S'Mart) and Serafina (the blue hair surfer lingo girl from Class Four) both need to have been fucked at least twice.

Thank you for replying!
hmmm i tried it out a few times but didn't make it. maybe i missed something, but well, in the end I perused through game folders and I'm quite happy with how I got most of the scenes, only missed 2 or 3.
Looking forward to the next versions
Kudos for the great work!

 

[Hales_the_comet]

Faithe (hipster student, Class Three) can be progressed by the following steps after the room scene:
1) See her in the Showers at least once (6am)
2) Have 10+ Love, 10- Anger, and 10+ Slutty
3) Find her on the Public Beach between 8pm and 11pm

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the help! Unfortunately, her anger is 10+ for me at the moment and I have no idea how to decrease her anger

 

[ZinkoPoly]

Thanks for the help! Unfortunately, her anger is 10+ for me at the moment and I have no idea how to decrease her anger

I haven't added a way to decrease her anger yet, so you're not missing something. My bad! I'll make sure there's an event to decrease her anger in the upcoming v0.002 release in the beginning of February.

 

[nanonano]

Zinkopoly, any ETA on the update? Not that there's any pressure (definitely a colossal amount of content for a first version), just wondering if it's worth to wait for those sweet QoL changes before continuing

PS: Just to compensate for the whinefest I've seen in many of the comments: The game is awesome, keep it up! There's plenty of different games to cater to everyone's kinks in this game, and I love the direction as is, So I'd say keep doing what you enjoy so you don't burn out and actually have fun doing. Specially the preggo stuff, if you're not into it don't do it (I'm not a fan, but if it's in I can just click trhough it), and the "please allow me to skip a/b/c", they probably represent a vast minority which will likely complain about anything that isn't perfect for them, so make *your* game, it's fantastic as it's going!

 

[ZinkoPoly]

Zinkopoly, any ETA on the update? Not that there's any pressure (definitely a colossal amount of content for a first version), just wondering if it's worth to wait for those sweet QoL changes before continuing

v0.002 will be releasing between February 1st and February 4th.

Many QoL changes have been done already. A couple days ago I finished the new and improved hint system and added a rudimentary calendar. Many comments here in this thread have been instrumental in getting me to look at my game in a different light and make important improvements, so thank you everyone for your excellent feedback.

I have done 10 additional events so far (including duplicates, without duplicates it'd be 7-8 depending on what is considered 'duplicate') and would like to spend the next week and a half adding more content so that the update is not purely a facelift update. In the next week and a half I'd like to triple that number to make the update 'worth it' for everyone.

Hope that's helpful info! Thanks!

 

[Cshackleford]

Hpw do you progress kately i can find her on the beach and in the shower already

 

[ZinkoPoly]

To reach the next step in progress for Kately (pink hair, Class One) after the beach/shower is to have had sex with her 3 times (one way is the repeatable beach scene weekday afternoons on the public beach between 1pm and 5pm), have 25 love, and less than 20 anger, and then there's a scene to be had in her dorm room in the afternoon between 1pm and 6pm.

There are a lot of events for her, but those are those related to her progress. Hope that helps!

 

[Jan23489]

also a time skip mechanic

Actually, you can just sleep in the master bedroom