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DrLizardman

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it keeps saying model penalty too high for my auto publisher. I have it set to 2 days or less... how can it be too high still?
 

mbmb

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Apr 18, 2017
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This is a great game (one of the better brothel sim-like games I've played). And one of the very few where the developer actually cares about making a good game instead of just milking it and/or give up after a short while. A few miscellaneous things I want to mention as feedback:

  • Would be nice to be able to import/export MC to potentially save time when starting new game.
  • The new PoV scene is good. Limited actions for now but that's expected because it's a new feature. The thing that freaks me out though is how white the dude's skin is. Like unnaturally ghostly white.
  • Bug: This is probably known already but I'll report it just in case... In certain settings (e.g. bar), selecting random sex action will result in not seeing any of the actors/actresses. The user needs to click up and down arrows for the X and Y position to have the actors/actresses display in the selected location. Then if you hit random sex action again or cum, then the position is reset where the actors/actresses are no longer displayed on-screen again and you have to tinker with the X and Y again.
  • On the UI for outfits and girls, maybe display name of the outfit. Good QoL for players like me who might like a certain look, and want an easier way to search for it. Same when new outfit is unlocked. Would be nice to include in the message which outfit/the name of the outfit. Also, maybe different outfits can provide different bonuses (both positive and negative)?
  • I think the way Beauty Salon works right now is a bit strange. For example, if I have a girl with 50 beauty and I send her to Beauty Salon and modify her ass from 0 -> 1 (i.e. from small ass to big ass), then she gains 20 beauty so now she has 70 beauty. Then after she rehabilitates, if I send this girl back to Beauty Salon and modify her ass from 1 back to 0, then she again gains 20 beauty. So now she has 90 beauty. Which just doesn't make sense because she's the same as when she had 50 beauty. And it raises the question of what is universally considered a boost to physical attractiveness. Honestly, I think to reflect reality, going to the Beauty Salon should not give any permanent beauty bonus. Beauty should really be like Potential, which can't be raised permanently. And probably Beauty should reduce with age.
  • Speaking of Potential, I think it would make sense that each character has a different Potential per attribute rather than one Potential value that covers Charisma, Intellect, Sex Skills, and Fitness.
  • I like the addition of character Likes/Dislikes. Problem though is now the player is heavily encouraged to search for staff members with the highest Potential that also have +3 like for the job you want them to do. And there's no very easy way to do that (i.e. "give me a list of staff members I can hire that have Potential >= 90 and also have +3 like for the job") through the UI. Right now the player has to check all the boxes on the left, then click on Potential then scan from the top of the list each candidate. If the player decides to hire someone, it seems that the list re-sorts itself, so the player needs to re-sort by Potential.
  • Related to above point, would be nice to add to the Staff Member UI the ability to sort by Date Hired. The ability to sort by Date Hired would make it easy to find the newly hired staff.
  • Would be nice to have a notification whenever Job Center refreshes its staff member list so the player knows there's a new batch to check out.
  • Maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to switch/convert a porn girl into a staff role. If there isn't one, would be nice to have this option.
  • Call to Office is slightly broken. What I mean by that is there's nothing that prevents the player from talking to every girl and every staff member every day and getting free relationship points. Problem is that realistically, it should require a time investment, but currently it doesn't. And if call to office requires no time investment, might as well just automate it to save the player real-life time of clicking on each girl/staff member and going through the dialogue options. i.e. just automatically give free +5 or whatever relationship points to all girls and all staff members each day. Suggested solution here is that Call to Office should just require a time investment.
  • Question: Is there anything to do in the game after buying all properties and getting the special npcs? Is there a way to straight up win and end the game? I see that there are Rivals but I'm guessing knocking them all out would still not end the game. I'm hoping I'm wrong because endgame is usually terribly boring (not a knock on this game specifically as it's a problem for all games in this genre).
  • Speaking of Rivals, it would be nice to be able to automate sabotage actions (i.e. Automatically perform <selected sabotage option> every 14 days).
import mc - i agree. will put it on the list.
pov - how do you even get white skin? thats 100% a bug. it should be the same tone as mc skin. i cant replicate that.
random sexscene - this was fixed few days ago
outfits - not really a fan for clothes having stats. very rpg like and im pretty sure one outfit would be OP and you'll use it on every girl. at least now they can be dressed as you want and not the "best" way.
beauty salon - didnt even know it allow changing of the ass lol. should be listed under surgeries. will fix that.
you cannot get permanent beauty increase from salon. all the bonuses last a week.
you can increase beauty permanently with plastic surgeries tho. i made it that way since there was no other way to boost beauty and the girl which could be good was stuck at low beauty forever. which is how it is in real life, but you know.
also it's more of an abstraction as you figured it out. coz you can enlarge tits size 1 to tits size 6, and later back to 1 and you still get beauty bonus. you still have to pay for those surgeries and all that.
potential - more realistic but might be too complicated. another 4 vars to keep track of and with so many random rolls youd never get anything good.
staff filter - with v0.81 attributes arent even THAT important for staff. it helps so you dont need to train their skill to 100, since attributes boost the value of the skill. but you can have top worker even with attribute around 60.
like for example if you find makeup artist with beauty 70 & potential 0, it's pretty much all you need to get to her max.
i do agree it should be more exposed if character likes the job. maybe color coded names or something.
porn to staff - only possible after they retire for now. i was thinking of adding an option if you have high relationship with them.
call to office - it should spend some 1h per talk. will fix that asap.
endgame - no, after you buy everything you're pretty much done. i'm working on making rivals more resiliant so endgame will probably be dealing with them.
but like you said, there really isnt that much you could invent for endgame in these games. often you see "catastrophies" or something similar but i dislike that game design.

it keeps saying model penalty too high for my auto publisher. I have it set to 2 days or less... how can it be too high still?
does it get posted after penalty is over?
More tags ber scene the better or is it the opposite?
depends
if you want to more fans in certain category it's better to have less tags otherwise they'll spread across 20 different tags
Is there a way to decompile godot exes? Maybe mod the way the finances work.
probably is, but i dont know of any tools
what finances, maybe i can do something
 

Idontknowme

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probably is, but i dont know of any tools
what finances, maybe i can do something
I believe I put it up on the discord a couple of weeks back. It's just that I feel FFFM are way too buffed compared to GBs and the revenue to depravity scaling never makes it that it is feasible to have a high popularity, contract girl do a GB instead of a FFFM/FFM with her time. I was hoping to change the scaling so that depravity of a scene played a bigger part in the revenue generated. I know that is not how a lot of players feel so I was wondering if I could do it on my own. You have accomodated quite lot of suggestions (thank you!) but I felt this would be changing the game too much. That suggestion just for reference:
 

ncquolopow

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Aug 17, 2018
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Potential doesn't matter for Staff unless you plan on not keeping them as Staff and turning them into Porn Actors. It's their skill level for the job their hired for that matters and that they don't hate the job.
Potential is only used for Porn Actors.


That's what the traits are for.
Hmm didn't know that Potential only matters for actresses. Then why does it show in the UI next to each skill that it depends on certain attributes? For example, Marketing depends on Intellect and Charisma. Hopefully the dev can clarify.


I think you misunderstood about what I mean for having different Potentials. I mean that currently if a character has 80 Potential, that means they are capped at 80 Fitness, 80 Charisma, 80 Intellect, 80 Sex Skills. What I would like to see is the possibility of different caps for the attributes to reflect reality. So for example, a character might have 70 Fitness Potential, 75 Charisma Potential, 50 Sex Skills Potential, 100 Intellect Potential. And perhaps at some point, splitting sex skills itself into individual skills (e.g. anal, oral, etc.).
 

ncquolopow

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Aug 17, 2018
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import mc - i agree. will put it on the list.
random sexscene - this was fixed few days ago
porn to staff - only possible after they retire for now. i was thinking of adding an option if you have high relationship with them.
call to office - it should spend some 1h per talk. will fix that asap.
Awesome. Thank you.

pov - how do you even get white skin? thats 100% a bug. it should be the same tone as mc skin. i cant replicate that.
I had female MC with Skin = 8 (which definitely isn't ghostly white). Maybe white skin is default for the male in PoV scene if MC is female.

outfits - not really a fan for clothes having stats. very rpg like and im pretty sure one outfit would be OP and you'll use it on every girl. at least now they can be dressed as you want and not the "best" way.
Yeah maybe not the most realistic, but like you said it's nice having the freedom to dress how we want.

beauty salon - didnt even know it allow changing of the ass lol. should be listed under surgeries. will fix that.
you cannot get permanent beauty increase from salon. all the bonuses last a week.
you can increase beauty permanently with plastic surgeries tho. i made it that way since there was no other way to boost beauty and the girl which could be good was stuck at low beauty forever. which is how it is in real life, but you know.
also it's more of an abstraction as you figured it out. coz you can enlarge tits size 1 to tits size 6, and later back to 1 and you still get beauty bonus. you still have to pay for those surgeries and all that.
Yeah I was referring to plastic surgeries. I think the temporary boosts to Beauty is already good enough. You can get 30(?) Beauty temporary boost from getting Full Package treatment every week, which might as well be permanent as long as you can keep sending the girl for the treatment. Problem with the permanent boost to Beauty is 1. It makes girls less unique if you can boost them all to max Beauty. 2. I think it's arguable how much plastic surgery even enhances beauty in real life. Imo all the plastic surgery in the world can't make up for lack of natural beauty and I think base/natural Beauty should still factor in significantly to the max Beauty a girl should be able to reach. Maybe a good middle ground here is to allow every girl to gain a permanent bonus to her beauty for her first plastic surgery. But subsequent plastic surgeries give no further permanent bonus. So for example, a girl starts at 50 Beauty. She gets plastic surgery (doesn't matter what changes exactly as long as something changes) and she gets 10 bonus Beauty so now she has 60. You send her to get plastic surgery again and she gets no further bonus. Same if you have a girl that starts at 90 Beauty. Her first plastic surgery she gets 10 Beauty so now she has 100 Beauty and she can't earn more permanent bonus beauty if she gets plastic surgery again. This would allow girls to retain some uniqueness/not all be superstars, but also give them some room to grow so that the ones that are terrible can at least reach average levels, and average girls can reach above-average level of beauty.

I did forget to mention a bug regarding plastic surgeries. I think currently if you send a girl to get a plastic surgery, but change nothing and hit Confirm, the girl gets no Beauty bonus (which makes sense) but she still goes to Rehabilitation (which doesn't make sense because she didn't actually get surgery). Expected result should be: Girl gets no Beauty bonus and she should not go to Rehabilitation.


potential - more realistic but might be too complicated. another 4 vars to keep track of and with so many random rolls youd never get anything good.
As you can tell I'm more of a fan of realism. I like to "work with what I've got" rather than expecting to always have min-maxed characters. But like you said, it's a pain from a developer's perspective so I can understand if you don't make this change.

staff filter - with v0.81 attributes arent even THAT important for staff. it helps so you dont need to train their skill to 100, since attributes boost the value of the skill. but you can have top worker even with attribute around 60.
like for example if you find makeup artist with beauty 70 & potential 0, it's pretty much all you need to get to her max.
i do agree it should be more exposed if character likes the job. maybe color coded names or something.
Thanks for explaining. I was confused on how exactly skills depend on attributes.

endgame - no, after you buy everything you're pretty much done. i'm working on making rivals more resiliant so endgame will probably be dealing with them.
but like you said, there really isnt that much you could invent for endgame in these games. often you see "catastrophies" or something similar but i dislike that game design.
The way I would do this if I were the developer is to have the game end after defeating all rivals as well as adding a score system to encourage players to replay the game and try to beat their best score.
 

DrLizardman

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Im not sure if it gets posted when the penalty is over. but my websites are suffering and not being posted to
Edit: seems raising the bar instead of lowering it was what I needed to do to get the videos to post.
 
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rle68

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Not really a big deal, I just need to match the main game export settings in Godot. Because the main game is available for different devices, I just need to know which one you use to download the game. When you download the game, do you download version Win x64 or Win x32?
Not really a big deal, I just need to match the main game export settings in Godot. Because the main game is available for different devices, I just need to know which one you use to download the game. When you download the game, do you download version Win x64 or Win x32?
both doesnt work either
 

69enthusiast

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Here's a few things I'd like to suggest:
1. Actual foreplay such as kissing, fondling, fingering etc which add a feeling of realism and actual porn, not a whole lot of animations but even 2 or 3 would do this idea justice
2. There should be cuckold scenes where the dude is sitting on the side and the dirty talk could be the girl's interactions with him
3. Some more DP and Gangbang animations
 

mbmb

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Apr 18, 2017
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I believe I put it up on the discord a couple of weeks back. It's just that I feel FFFM are way too buffed compared to GBs and the revenue to depravity scaling never makes it that it is feasible to have a high popularity, contract girl do a GB instead of a FFFM/FFM with her time. I was hoping to change the scaling so that depravity of a scene played a bigger part in the revenue generated. I know that is not how a lot of players feel so I was wondering if I could do it on my own. You have accomodated quite lot of suggestions (thank you!) but I felt this would be changing the game too much. That suggestion just for reference:
i've changed so the bonus for fffm and gb are almost equal. FFFM has to be worth a bit more coz wages for 3 females are going to be way bigger than 3 males. should be better now.
it shouldnt have that much weight anyway. way easier is to break the game with demand system.

Yeah I was referring to plastic surgeries. I think the temporary boosts to Beauty is already good enough. You can get 30(?) Beauty temporary boost from getting Full Package treatment every week, which might as well be permanent as long as you can keep sending the girl for the treatment. Problem with the permanent boost to Beauty is 1. It makes girls less unique if you can boost them all to max Beauty. 2. I think it's arguable how much plastic surgery even enhances beauty in real life. Imo all the plastic surgery in the world can't make up for lack of natural beauty and I think base/natural Beauty should still factor in significantly to the max Beauty a girl should be able to reach. Maybe a good middle ground here is to allow every girl to gain a permanent bonus to her beauty for her first plastic surgery. But subsequent plastic surgeries give no further permanent bonus. So for example, a girl starts at 50 Beauty. She gets plastic surgery (doesn't matter what changes exactly as long as something changes) and she gets 10 bonus Beauty so now she has 60. You send her to get plastic surgery again and she gets no further bonus. Same if you have a girl that starts at 90 Beauty. Her first plastic surgery she gets 10 Beauty so now she has 100 Beauty and she can't earn more permanent bonus beauty if she gets plastic surgery again. This would allow girls to retain some uniqueness/not all be superstars, but also give them some room to grow so that the ones that are terrible can at least reach average levels, and average girls can reach above-average level of beauty.

I did forget to mention a bug regarding plastic surgeries. I think currently if you send a girl to get a plastic surgery, but change nothing and hit Confirm, the girl gets no Beauty bonus (which makes sense) but she still goes to Rehabilitation (which doesn't make sense because she didn't actually get surgery). Expected result should be: Girl gets no Beauty bonus and she should not go to Rehabilitation.


The way I would do this if I were the developer is to have the game end after defeating all rivals as well as adding a score system to encourage players to replay the game and try to beat their best score.
oh yeah, bug is with fem mc pov. fixed now. also the one where they go on rehab even of there were no changes made.

i do agree with no permanent beauty bonuses. it was like that but i was sorta peer pressured into making them. i was already thinking of making 1 perm beauty bonus. i might do this since i dont like whats now honestly.


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Here's a few things I'd like to suggest:
1. Actual foreplay such as kissing, fondling, fingering etc which add a feeling of realism and actual porn, not a whole lot of animations but even 2 or 3 would do this idea justice
2. There should be cuckold scenes where the dude is sitting on the side and the dirty talk could be the girl's interactions with him
3. Some more DP and Gangbang animations
1. i can do some yeah. i'll add to the list.
2. you mean for shooting porn or random events?
3. in time

vladimiredg you cant, it isnt implemented yet.
 
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Maria Salvatore <Italian>(Salon) Mon/Wed/Friday
Lucia Salvatore <Italian>(Salon) Tues/Thurs/Sat
Lena van Houten <White>(Bar)
Kimberly Payton <White>(Hospital)
Maya Chase <White>(University)
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