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Since a new dev version has been posted (with a new stable version coming up) and you seem to be more active here than on the discord, I wanted to re-post a few of my bug reports from over there:

- Mod events can trigger at the same time as built-in events, leading to overlapping dialogue windows. Kind of hard to navigate the dialogue when two event windows are present.
- Girls in background continue to be visible & clickable while mod events trigger, even if there's a scene change. This can also lead to overlapping dialogue.
- Known bug: mod events can trigger for models in a happiness timeout. Shooting a scene in that situation causes a crash.
- Previously reported: reloading a quick save/auto save lowers the training rate for PC going forward. Instead of +3, you only have +2; with the Mind Body & Soul perk, it goes from +4 to +3. Not sure if this happens in normal saves. But it's annoying when a game crash occurs while you're still grinding stats.
- Calendar display broken in April 2019. First weekend convention at the hotel is BDSM, as usual, but shows up as comic-con on the calendar.
- Discrepancy between the pricing of one-time salon visits for girls (e.g. Spa 75$) and the one for regular weekly visits (Spa 150$). I could understand this rate being different for girls living overseas since you don't own the property but otherwise this doesn't make sense.
- Fight events seem broken: it's possible to lose even with a strength score of 100 and the angry boyfriend having a much lower score.
- Possible oversight: Lily Mei Chen doesn't have the Loyal attribute, unlike all of the other recruit-able special girls.
- Possible oversight: Anastasia can be recruited as a PA, even without having a company. Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the impression that only special girls that couldn't be offered a job straight off the bat could be recruited that way (e.g. the Salvatore sisters). I've been grabbing Anastasia week 1 and converted her to an editor so I could spend game time raising my stats;she often sucks at that job but then, so does my character at that point.
- Typo: "Add revenue" (double D) in tool tip of publishing button and in publishing PA panel
- Typo: "Ammount" (double M) in bank loan dialog.

Those are all from 0.93dev4, not the newly posted dev version.

Also a few questions:

- Can girlfriends be recruited by competitors if they're not under contract ? Or do they count as having the Loyal attribute ?
- Can you clarify what is involved in training the sex skill stat for male PC ? It always lags behind the other stats. Obviously, you have to shoot normal scenes (the 4h variety) but it doesn't seem to increase as a simple +1/scene. Does it only take into account the first time you shoot a scene with a particular model ? Also, casting scenes (which only take 1h) don't seem to count; it only seems to give +1 to charisma. Picking up girls on the street doesn't seem to count either.
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-gfs can be recruited by a rival. you think should i exclude them?
-it's 3 fucks for 1 point. during shootings it can also increase. i had 2, but that was too fast. you fuck a lot in this game.

I noticed when making custom NPCs you can set their starting relationship with the MC, including family relationships. How exactly does that work? Are you blocked from sex with them? Just curious since this is on Patreon and Steam (and also the thread doesn't have the tag) so I assume there wouldn't be incest in the base game
Edit: Also, the relationship doesn't seem to persist between export/import
there is no incest in the base game and never will be.
what people do with mods, who am i to judge. with some effort you can make some pretty interesting family business.

i'll check the bug. it worked till recently.
 
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I respect this game and the work of mbmb, but I am not very clear about some fans of this game. Why is the possibility of your rival taking a male actor excluded? Even when I make male characters and put them as rivals in the mod, they don't appear there as rivals. I got to Aphrodite and no man won the title of best male performer. I would like more events regarding awards. It seems to me that this should be the goal of the game, but it doesn't make sense to me like this. Big greetings.
 

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-gfs can be recruited by a rival. you think should i exclude them?
I was just asking, to try and figure out the best strategy and whom to offer contracts to. A high relationship combined with Paula's perk can make girls loyal (at random) and contracts are very expensive when you first start a company. So I was thinking that turning high-stat or high-potential girls into GFs might be a good time investment if it ensures their loyalty.

As always it's your game so it's up to you whether or not to have that rule but IMHO, it would be frustrating to arbitrarily lose someone like that ... There's an event in the game where you have to face off against angry boyfriends of girls you've recruited. So if you're going to allow that, I think that by symmetry you should at least have the option of demanding some financial compensation from the rival who just NTR'ed you.
 

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there is no incest in the base game and never will be.
what people do with mods, who am i to judge. with some effort you can make some pretty interesting family business.
Right, like I said I figured that was the case. I was just wondering what the point of adding a sibling/parent/child NPC to the game would be if there's no incest. Can you still shoot scenes with them but just not have sex with them yourself?
 

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Other tips for the creator: The Girls, Boys, and Staff tabs could improve, especially when it comes to filtering options.
For example, it’d be super helpful to filter by specific skills or set a minimum value for a certain skill.
Another thing that could really improve the search is having more options for hiding stuff and not just “hide agency,” “hide unpublished,” or “hide scheduled.”
And as a last suggestion it’d be great to have an option to view all the actresses in one big list, without any divisions or subgroups.
 

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Just a stupid question. If you have a PA Producer, she/he can only schedule scenes with available freelancers and agency actresses? If an actress is at the Carwash, Beauty Salon or Stripclub, will she never be selected by the PA Producer? Am I right?
 

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i can't seem to get multiple custom characters to be in game only the first appears i, have two as starting models and one to be at the bar but the 2 and the bar one don't appear. It might be spawn randomly cause i cant seem or don't know how to change the stage
 
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Something that I've been wanting to see being done to the game is a better implementation of the 'Virgin' trait. As well as a way to make the PA's be able to look for new girls/boys with specific traits, because right now it is only characteristics.
About the Virgin trait, it would be great to add some sort of marker of they losing their virginity, I know that might be difficult to code, but if it is a possibility that would be great.
All my playthroughs are centered in virgin models, mainly as a challenge as the trait is very rare and I take it as some sort of "Only Shiny Pokemon playthrough" so I think getting even more compensation for getting virgins would be great, especially after the trait is gone and the model loses beauty. I know the game is not solely focused on that but it could bring more ways to play the game in case that more people wants to do those kind of playthroughs.
Adding information to the notes would be awesome specially for rival company model's, things like stats from the other company, like the revenue they made or things like what websites the model is mostly published, and things like that that could be unlocked through an option from a PA.
I really like this game and I hope for the best and for more improvements for the game overall.
This game is really solid for what seems like a small dev team (maybe even just one person?)

However, my biggest issue with it is the weights of traits and ratings. The easiest way to say it is that, like mentioned by you, certain traits should have a massive boost to everything.

The two I can think of most are "virgin" as a trait and beauty being an A-S+.

I find that this game doesn't treat a woman that's been in the industry for years and is rated as a "B in beauty all that different from a virgin or a woman that has an S-Ranking in beauty.

The reality is, clearly, that one woman alone could make your business huge. That's what porn is all about, right? The run-of-the-mill porn stars are exactly that and don't create all that much buzz compared to volume of work, and that's fine and good but rare talents bring rare attention. Women with basic looks that have already been in the game a while (be it porn or even stripping) don't set the industry on fire as much as those rare, beautiful women that almost seem "too good for porn".One of those women/girls can make a company.
Jenna Jameson was a bit before my time but even I know she took the industry by storm. Plenty more recent girls, too. We'd all know the type and the game seems to try to replicate this to some degree but it never feels right or true. It doesn't change all that much when finding a true gem should be an absolute cash cow even if you just made her own website (great feature, btw) and posted softcore for years. Remember those old Chloe18/TeenTopanga type sites? They tried to emulate the "we're just midwestern virgins" thing for a reason...there is a huge market for it.

Finding a REAL girl like that would make you a ton of cash. I think the game needs to treat an A in beauty as being much different than a B, and an S much different than an A. Etc. Massive differences in the money and fans it brings them and your business.
Some traits should have a TON of weight to them. As noted, "virgin" should be rare and MASSIVE. Even a virgin girl with ratings of C or B across the board should be immensely valuable...at least for her first film and then slowly drop the returns based on her ratings. People would pay a ton to see those first few videos (sex ,bj, etc).
If you found an S-rated beauty that was also a virgin? They should be unicorns but those types should do crazy numbers for a long time but especially early on on their film career. Business altering numbers, even if you have to hire them as a worker first and slowly talk her into fucking.

A few other traits that should have more weight are "perfect ass/tits', "tight" and such other highly sought after but relatively rare traits in actual women.
The traits that I think should be diminished a bit are the ones that there is a market for. "Shy" is one. Some guys like more demure women, some like the woman to be more extroverted and sexual..Both are great (lol) but the game kind of treats shyness as a negative across the board and extroverted, dick hungry chicks as a universal positive. I think, maybe, make those traits that have no change (like some other traits).

I'll could go on much further I'll stfu. This game is really solid and in-depth. Some of it is confusing and doesn't really work all that well but I see the intent and it's solid. It just seems to be a few steps from really, really working. I think the missing touch is a bit of the personal. Maybe the ability to direct the scene more than check a box for what's on it, even if just the order of events and more boxes to check to get specific. That and more animations during scenes. Oh, that and the ability to be a bit more of a line pusher...be it a hidden camera system of recording or the type of male performer that is like a Rocco, Woodman, etc where you really ride the line between legalities at times.
 
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Something that I've been wanting to see being done to the game is a better implementation of the 'Virgin' trait. As well as a way to make the PA's be able to look for new girls/boys with specific traits, because right now it is only characteristics.
About the Virgin trait, it would be great to add some sort of marker of they losing their virginity, I know that might be difficult to code, but if it is a possibility that would be great.
All my playthroughs are centered in virgin models, mainly as a challenge as the trait is very rare and I take it as some sort of "Only Shiny Pokemon playthrough" so I think getting even more compensation for getting virgins would be great, especially after the trait is gone and the model loses beauty. I know the game is not solely focused on that but it could bring more ways to play the game in case that more people wants to do those kind of playthroughs.
Adding information to the notes would be awesome specially for rival company model's, things like stats from the other company, like the revenue they made or things like what websites the model is mostly published, and things like that that could be unlocked through an option from a PA.
I really like this game and I hope for the best and for more improvements for the game overall.
read at the end

It used to be like that in v84 and before, didn't it?
it was at some point
I respect this game and the work of mbmb, but I am not very clear about some fans of this game. Why is the possibility of your rival taking a male actor excluded? Even when I make male characters and put them as rivals in the mod, they don't appear there as rivals. I got to Aphrodite and no man won the title of best male performer. I would like more events regarding awards. It seems to me that this should be the goal of the game, but it doesn't make sense to me like this. Big greetings.
rivals cant have males. i havent made it yet and i dont think i will.
porn males are more or less always jobbers. whole porn world revolves around these whores.

I was just asking, to try and figure out the best strategy and whom to offer contracts to. A high relationship combined with Paula's perk can make girls loyal (at random) and contracts are very expensive when you first start a company. So I was thinking that turning high-stat or high-potential girls into GFs might be a good time investment if it ensures their loyalty.

As always it's your game so it's up to you whether or not to have that rule but IMHO, it would be frustrating to arbitrarily lose someone like that ... There's an event in the game where you have to face off against angry boyfriends of girls you've recruited. So if you're going to allow that, I think that by symmetry you should at least have the option of demanding some financial compensation from the rival who just NTR'ed you.
they were excluded at some point. cant remember the reason to remove them.
it should trigger some conversation with a GF so you can say no and not get cucked out of the blue.

i can't seem to get multiple custom characters to be in game only the first appears i, have two as starting models and one to be at the bar but the 2 and the bar one don't appear. It might be spawn randomly cause i cant seem or don't know how to change the stage
if you set it to random, she'll spawn randomly.
there shouldnt be any limit on starting chars.

This game is really solid for what seems like a small dev team (maybe even just one person?)

However, my biggest issue with it is the weights of traits and ratings. The easiest way to say it is that, like mentioned by you, certain traits should have a massive boost to everything.

The two I can think of most are "virgin" as a trait and beauty being an A-S+.

I find that this game doesn't treat a woman that's been in the industry for years and is rated as a "B in beauty all that different from a virgin or a woman that has an S-Ranking in beauty.

The reality is, clearly, that one woman alone could make your business huge. That's what porn is all about, right? The run-of-the-mill porn stars are exactly that and don't create all that much buzz compared to volume of work, and that's fine and good but rare talents bring rare attention. Women with basic looks that have already been in the game a while (be it porn or even stripping) don't set the industry on fire as much as those rare, beautiful women that almost seem "too good for porn".One of those women/girls can make a company.
Jenna Jameson was a bit before my time but even I know she took the industry by storm. Plenty more recent girls, too. We'd all know the type and the game seems to try to replicate this to some degree but it never feels right or true. It doesn't change all that much when finding a true gem should be an absolute cash cow even if you just made her own website (great feature, btw) and posted softcore for years. Remember those old Chloe18/TeenTopanga type sites? They tried to emulate the "we're just midwestern virgins" thing for a reason...there is a huge market for it.

Finding a REAL girl like that would make you a ton of cash. I think the game needs to treat an A in beauty as being much different than a B, and an S much different than an A. Etc. Massive differences in the money and fans it brings them and your business.
Some traits should have a TON of weight to them. As noted, "virgin" should be rare and MASSIVE. Even a virgin girl with ratings of C or B across the board should be immensely valuable...at least for her first film and then slowly drop the returns based on her ratings. People would pay a ton to see those first few videos (sex ,bj, etc).
If you found an S-rated beauty that was also a virgin? They should be unicorns but those types should do crazy numbers for a long time but especially early on on their film career. Business altering numbers, even if you have to hire them as a worker first and slowly talk her into fucking.

A few other traits that should have more weight are "perfect ass/tits', "tight" and such other highly sought after but relatively rare traits in actual women.
The traits that I think should be diminished a bit are the ones that there is a market for. "Shy" is one. Some guys like more demure women, some like the woman to be more extroverted and sexual..Both are great (lol) but the game kind of treats shyness as a negative across the board and extroverted, dick hungry chicks as a universal positive. I think, maybe, make those traits that have no change (like some other traits).

I'll could go on much further I'll stfu. This game is really solid and in-depth. Some of it is confusing and doesn't really work all that well but I see the intent and it's solid. It just seems to be a few steps from really, really working. I think the missing touch is a bit of the personal. Maybe the ability to direct the scene more than check a box for what's on it, even if just the order of events and more boxes to check to get specific. That and more animations during scenes. Oh, that and the ability to be a bit more of a line pusher...be it a hidden camera system of recording or the type of male performer that is like a Rocco, Woodman, etc where you really ride the line between legalities at times.
i did buffed some traits in the latest dev, especially those that need some micromanagement like cumdodger and similar.
but you(and the guy you're replying) are right. virgin should get even more boost. if your whole playthrough revolves around these legendary creatures, you should at least get max money when deflowering her on camera at 100 fame.

what is in the works currently is trait combos. so combo of 3 different traits that gives you some extra shit.
for example [Shy, Timid, Virgin] some massive profit when the scene actual hit.
or [Perfect Ass, Perfect Tits] for some nice scene bonuses
or [Depressed, Bi-Polar, Crazy] for some wild outcomes, like tons of fans, tons of money or 0 money or negative fans.
you get the point.

maybe even a starting perk that would amplify that kind of playstyle. less is more.

> I think the missing touch is a bit of the personal.
scene direction is very very micro. i never made it coz the game sorta evolved into more quantity over quality. a lot of work for mechanics that would be rarely used. but all can change.
> line pusher
yeah, like what
 

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Why can't I select traits and perks from the character creation screen on the new build? Also, any new special characters get added?
 

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rivals cant have males. i havent made it yet and i dont think i will.
porn males are more or less always jobbers. whole porn world revolves around these whore
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It's true that the world revolves around those whores. However, in that world there is also Sins and Rocco. I'm just making a suggestion for future releases of this game. I think it would be even more interesting if we had more tangible rivalry. For example, more convention events, awards, conflicts with the owners of rival companies... That would spice things up. Especially since you've already implemented game levels in the game. Among other things, I'm interested in whether an actor from our company can impregnate an actress and under what conditions? Otherwise, overall, I really like the game. Warm regards, mbmb.
 

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Why are my directors and other studio staff quitting so fast?
You're probably overworking them by shooting too many scenes/week: their happiness drops each time you shoot and then recovers a certain amount/day based on salary. I think that mbmb previously stated that with an "indifferent" salary level, you can shoot about 3 scenes/week.

Other factors count in the daily happiness change:having disruptive staff, reputation level, office level, etc... One game, I saw an "other goals" penalty on really high-level staff; not 100% sure what that one is about since they were in a "liked" (+1) job already.
 
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