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I disagree. Do not underestimate your fellow members.
I mean, I kind of believed the same thing when I first made my game, but still went ahead with it.
And luckily, and to my own surprise, the number of people who cared for a proper story and character development was many. Also, the ones who end up being patrons.
And looking at my fellow devs who released at the same period as I did (sex-focused game)- I think I can consider it a major success story and personally am very happy.
Well we are talking about the general trends in porn games and the expectations of their audience. So while something like Deluca Family should be included, so should Summertime Saga. Scarlet Spire, since it's not a porn game, shouldn't have any relevance on how important plot and story are to a porn game.I disagree with that too. You know, having had no sex scene or content in the first episode of Season 2 of RTP, we were expecting a few people to be impatient and say something, even while knowing that the majority of players (at least the vocal ones) were more interested in continuing the story. However, the reality was that we got not one single comment or criticism, and a lot of very positive feedback on the episode and it's character and plot development.
So, I'm with @HopesGaming in thinking you are rather misjudging people there.
To support that further, you might want to check out 'Scarlet Spire', which lets everyone know up front it is not a porn game and has zero sexual content, and while that almost certainly limits the attention it gets, it *is* still getting attention and play.
Either way, I am talking about majorities, not the outliers in smaller groups. A self selected group about a story driven game is obviously going to prioritize the story and characters. That doesn't mean the majority of the porn games audience feels the same. The fact that Summertime Saga pulls in the 17 thousand patrons a month that it does by virtue of being a "man see girl, man fuck girl" should say more about the interests of the porn games audience in general than a few hundred. That's not even accounting for the millions that don't use Patreon because the only part of these games they want to see are the porn scenes.
Outdated and archaic as it may be, it's still a very common mindset. I don't hold it, but I run up against it constantly here in the southern US. And while most men will tell you they don't see women as objects, they still subconsciously treat them as such. More than once with completely unrelated people I have had the discussion about how women that sleep around should be just as respected as men who do. The response I got each time was "Which is better, a key that can open any lock, or a lock that accepts any key?" We don't live in medieval times where men could treat women like actual property, but the baser instincts that make men want to own women haven't gone away.Wow, that is quite the projection. So, how do you manage to explain this belief in line with men who like to be dominated, and certainly don't consider themselves that way? Honestly, that seems a very outdated and archaic viewpoint of some kind of "Man hunt, Man provide" world view. Women are not property, or prizes anymore, at least in the majority of the world.
The reason I don't consider men that want to be dominated in the discussion is because they are not part of the majority of men. They aren't even a sizable portion of it. They are an exception to the norm. Whatever desires they have have no connection to what the majority of men want. Not everything needs a #notallmen disclaimer.