Porn Game Tropes: The good, the bad, and the fugly

[Deleted member 229118]

These are topics that appear in the common discourse of every culture in Earth when men talk publicly about women. From a male perspective dating is transactional sex, just one acceptable by religion and cultures. Most men don't want true relationships, just easy access to getting regular amounts of sex. If these things weren't true then most men would reject such overly selfish masculine mindsets, not look up to them.

You forgot a live in maid, cook, nurse, caretaker, psychatrist, painter, etc.

Meaby it is just my personal experiance but in my life i noticed that woman do ten times the work of men around the household while also having a job and doing the majority of raising the kids.

The difference between prostitute and wife is value.
A prostitute is an expensive one night stand.
A wife is a life long investment that makes you happy.
Men are focused on goals.
We see woman as prize's to be won.
The better the woman the better the bragging rights.
It would however be wrong to believe men do not value woman.
Our entire life is about finding the best one we can get.
The reason we dont cheat or try for a harem is because it would be to costly.
Alimony, nagging, risk of getting caught, multiple expenseses, upkeep of housing, etc.
Then there is the peer pressure.
Do to our nature to see woman as valueable prize's to be treasured we are extreemly defendsive towards them.
Rapist are the lowest of criminal scum and even there fellow criminals hate them.
Then there is the double standerds.
Crime is somehow always worse if it happends to a woman.
A man got raped: I bet you liked it or you where weak and deserve to be raped.
A woman got raped: Where is the guy i kill him.

To us men life is a competation.
We all go for gold but most of us wont even get bronze.

Now before people jump down my throught and claim my facts are false(woudnt be the first time)
This is my observasion based on history, personal experiance, amateur psychologie.
The thing that separate humans from animals is our ability to think ahead.
Alot of the time we act the way we do because of culture, peer pressure and the risk of jail.
Remember that in our history we had:
Men dragging woman by the hair.
Political marriages to secure power for the head of the household(again men)
Men inherrit even if they have an older sister.
In modern days we have men and woman who have had six or seven relationships and it is consider compleetly normal.
Etc.

If they believe that at some set level of money spent they automatically can expect sex, then that's exactly what they are doing.

We see it more as effort vs reward.
Money is a means to an end.
A high maintenance girlfriend is going to be considered a waste of time and effort unless she offer something that makes it worth it.
Likewise a low maintenance we are far more lenient with.
It isnt that we expect sex for money.
We expect rewards for the time and effort we spend into making woman happy.
Sex is but one suchs reward.
Remember: Woman are the prize but not all prizes are equal.
The more valueable the woman the more we are willing to invest to get her to want to make us happy.

For some that's more about ego. Let's face it, lots of those types are dating women out of their league in terms of looks or wit, so they use money to bolster up their appeal. What they are getting for their money is time with a woman who wouldn't have been with them otherwise - which is pretty clearly getting close to prostitution, or at least, paid escort territory. They just don't want to admit that their most attractive quality is their wallet, and it only attracts a certain type of girl willing to sacrifice the quality of her dates for the quantity of their cash.

I agree we men have bigger ego's.
A men breaks up with a woman and the woman will ask: What is wrong with me.
A woman breaks up with a men the men will go like: What? After all i have done for that ungratefull bitch?

That is just human nature.
Men are natural more competative and competation is driven by ego.
Woman are natural more nurturing and considered of others.

There is a current shift in culture that makes men more passive and woman more aggressive but so far:
Men hunt, woman raise.

I am not argueing if it is just, right or how it shoud be.
I am merely pointing out the last 2000+ years.

Most of our actions are based on culture.
If woman where consider property we would act entirely different.
But since woman are seen as person of value that are to be treasured, protected and cared for.
To do less would make you unworthy of being a men in the eyes of our modern western culture.
After all:



On a related note:
Most porn games i seen are about men getting to "own" multiple woman or woman sleeping around.
I have yet to see a porn game where a woman "owned" multiple men.

 

[DarthSeduction]

This whole conversation feels like a foreign dead language to me... I've been out of the circle of guys who think like this for so long that I forgot it was real and not just a manosphere boogey man thing.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

"Women are X, men are Y" dialogues are generally worth the money spent on them.

 

[viewfinderlife]

i'm on pg11 of this thread and the progression from silly and funny snarky looks at games/vn many people like or hate progressing into far deeper discussion than one would expect from essentially a large group of perverts on a site for perverts and perverts who develop games and visual novels for other perverts has been an interesting read.

kudos.

 

[list101]

i'm on pg11 of this thread and the progression from silly and funny snarky looks at games/vn many people like or hate progressing into far deeper discussion than one would expect from essentially a large group of perverts on a site for perverts and perverts who develop games and visual novels for other perverts has been an interesting read.

kudos.

you are saying "pervert" like it is a bad thing ...

 

[viewfinderlife]

you are saying "pervert" like it is a bad thing ...

nope, maybe you're reading too much into it.

besides, i said kudos. if i instead said toodaloo motherfuckers... then yeah i might have meant it the way you're thinking.

 

[list101]

I love this discussion, but I love tropes a bit more. Put a couple more together that I'm unsure if have been covered.

Stockholm Syndrome
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What benevolence looks like

So in lewd games slavery is still a thing. The intro will include a short explanation as to why the imposed slavery system is still a thing and that you should kinda-sorta feel bad about it. Your character may even comment on how awkward it feels to have a slave or how it might be morally upsetting, but it won't stop him from fucking the ever loving shit out of all of her orifices. Often times the slaves in your possession will start the game out as innocent naive virgins, despite the fact that the intro described slaves being used almost exclusively for light housework and fucking. During the slave's plot path, she will come to the conclusion that being MC's slave is a pretty good deal, and will suffer an emotional breakdown if offered freedom. When coming into contact with other slaves or free'd slaves, she will describe how MC is 'different' and attempt to convince them to offer themselves as his property. This path to unconditional love is paved with lavish gifts like Dildos, Bondage Gear, and constant pressure to perform increasingly uncomfortable sexual acts. The time-frame of a timid slave to devoted life-long lover only takes about a week to go from kind conversation to lending her out to strangers on the street.

Everybody Loves MC
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I love him for his deep personality

Almost every female in the world will irrationally pursue a relationship with MC. Despite having no personality, job, or almost any redeeming qualities whatsoever. anything with a pussy is willing to put all her chips in the MC pot. She will describe MC as 'different' and a soul-mate despite his only trait being a crippling sex addiction. The path to a woman's heart is a few kind words upon meeting her, and then its pantry stealing and setting up hidden cameras. Occasionally a woman will not immediately soak herself at the sight of MC; These characters only need to be coerced into a threesome with a close friend and they will quickly fall in line.​

"... lavish gifts like Dildos..." that's just legendary. Hats off! roflmao

 

[list101]

nope, maybe you're reading too much into it.

besides, i said kudos. if i instead said toodaloo motherfuckers... then yeah i might have meant it the way you're thinking.

one person perversion is another person Monday - maybe I'm reading too much into it, cause "pervert" is used mostly as an insult

 

[DarthSeduction]

one person perversion is another person Monday - maybe I'm reading too much into it, cause "pervert" is used mostly as an insult

As someone who uses slut as a compliment, I would argue that while words like Pervert have, in the past, been a part of a sexually repressed culture attempting to shame those who deviated from their norm of missionary sex with the lights off for the purposes of procreation, they don't have to be insults if your perception of them is that they are inherently good things to be.

 

[Deleted member 229118]

As someone who uses slut as a compliment, I would argue that while words like Pervert have, in the past, been a part of a sexually repressed culture attempting to shame those who deviated from their norm of missionary sex with the lights off for the purposes of procreation, they don't have to be insults if your perception of them is that they are inherently good things to be.

Damm beat me too it.
I see pervert as a compliment.
As in my mind they are calling me sexual active.
Funny how prude these days is more of an insult then pervert.

 

[list101]

all out perverts create the best art

 

[weaselman]

Using a bulldozer to build a sandcastle

someone somewhere had a marvelous idea for a game, the story is good, the humor is clever, the gameplay is unique and well thought out and then they use that to make... a porn game, ultimatly tainting it's reputation and limiting the audience to a fraction of what it could be
there are games where you want the porn despite the gameplay, there are games where the gameplay and the porn compliment each other but these are the games where the porn almost get's in the way of the gameplay
personal examples: time loop hunters and defiler wings (it's the game that closest evokes the feeling of king of dragon pass to me) , special story mention: our fate

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Using a bulldozer to build a sandcastle

someone somewhere had a marvelous idea for a game, the story is good, the humor is clever, the gameplay is unique and well thought out and then they use that to make... a porn game, ultimatly tainting it's reputation and limiting the audience to a fraction of what it could be
there are games where you want the porn despite the gameplay, there are games where the gameplay and the porn compliment each other but these are the games where the porn almost get's in the way of the gameplay
personal examples: time loop hunters and defiler wings , special story mention: our fate

Well, a random sex scene every 5 minutes of gameplay can be a little bit off-putting after a while. I don't know if there's a perfect porn-to-story ratio, but somewhere in the ballpark of major sex scene every 20 minutes to an hour of gameplay sounds about right. What's a "major sex scene"? Well, if there are a few major love/sex interests in the game, then an animated sex scene with one of them would be a major scene. It is a balancing act between plot and "payoff", admittedly, but these are "fap" games, so at some point fappable content has to be delivered.

 

[RogueKnightUK]

It is a balancing act between plot and "payoff", admittedly, but these are "fap" games, so at some point fappable content has to be delivered.

Ah, we've literally just been having another discussion elsewhere in this same section of the forum that showed a lot of people don't ever fap to games, and thus 'fap games' would be a terrible misnomer, or a tiny proportion of the audience (and games). I have spoken with more than a few game devs and writers who approach some of their sexual scenes as 'fan service' - something added to keep the fappers engaged (and quiet). I'd suggest that almost every peeping scene, shower scene, and similar, are effectively mere 'fan service' additions.

Those are almost certainly thought of in much the way they are delivered: "Oh quick, we'd better throw in something to keep the wankers happy"

 

[yihman1]

This thread should never die.

Malfunctioning Senses

Taste / Smell: Has your always erect unwashed cock been in 3 vaginas and 2 assholes today the last of which was less than twenty minutes ago? Fear not! the girl going down on you now won't taste or smell anything suspicious at all. In fact she will hungrily devour your grotesque smelling member like a fat kid eating cake.

Hearing: Would you like to fuck your little sister on the couch, in the shower, or in the kitchen while mom is just in the other room? Fear not! A sound shield has been placed around you and your little sister so that you can fuck her all you want without mom hearing a thing.

Sight: Is your mistress sucking your cock under the dinner table? Fear not! The wife sitting directly across from you will not notice a thing.

Touch: You have the ability to make a woman orgasm simply by pinching her nipple for two seconds... This same girl when sleeping will not wake up if you slam your cock balls deep in her unlubed asshole.

 

[trash_can_not]

Rubber lips

Mostly present in Japanese games, it occurs during blowjob scenes. While heroine is giving head, her lips stretch up to the entire length of the penis. Resulting duckface gives the impression that the man is being sycked by a Plants vs Zombies peashooter.

 

[Proto Persona]

Rubber lips

Mostly present in Japanese games, it occurs during blowjob scenes. While heroine is giving head, her lips stretch up to the entire length of the penis. Resulting duckface gives the impression that the man is being sycked by a Plants vs Zombies peashooter.

Could expand this to just every girl turns into Missus Fantastic, able to stretch any orifice of her body to to accomodate any kind of penetration the author wants to put her through. 10 inch dick just poking straight up through a girls stomach and bulging out the front? There will be absolutely no discomfort or bruising whatsoever. Plus it'll feel like the best sex she's ever had to boot, hitting erogenous zones she never knew she had, like her cervix. /s

 

[trash_can_not]

Could expand this to just every girl turns into Missus Fantastic, able to stretch any orifice of her body to to accomodate any kind of penetration the author wants to put her through. 10 inch dick just poking straight up through a girls stomach and bulging out the front? There will be absolutely no discomfort or bruising whatsoever. Plus it'll feel like the best sex she's ever had to boot, hitting erogenous zones she never knew she had, like her cervix. /s

Also reminds me of Wallachian sex. Penis enters anus, exits from mouth or vice versa. Used to be a torture mixed with execution in XV century, but women in fictionland tend to not only survive it intact, but also enjoy the process.

 

[yihman1]

According to the rules of adult games, with very rare exception:

Fat men are almost always evil, powerful, and perverted.

There are no "decent fat men".

Not only that... These much older repulsive lard asses tend to make the initially repulsed and reluctant attractive female characters orgasm like a waterfall.

 

[obibobi]

According to the rules of adult games, with very rare exception:

Fat men are almost always evil, powerful, and perverted.

There are no "decent fat men".

Not only that... These much older repulsive lard asses tend to make the initially repulsed and reluctant attractive female characters orgasm like a waterfall.

This is a normal trope.

Beautiful = good

Ugly = bad

It even gets applied to real life which is why companies and political parties often get celebrities to endorse them even though any sensible person shouldn't be taking advice from these people who are only asked to speak about a cause because of how they look, not because they are well researched.