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Settum

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Some of the new weapons in this game are fun. And I forgot how incredibly easy CR0 is. Like, just the "no escaping turn one" thing is so god damn huge.

Currently working on a 609% difficulty run with no unlocks. I think I missed my opening for true ending =(

I don't know when I'd ever use this one. I never run shadow teams. I should probably give it a try.

There's a bunch of other item changes too. The frost crystal neck now lets you restore mana every fight, which isn't terrible. I think I've seen a couple new lower tier bows that could be useful.
Well, 609 shouldn't be that easy, but obviously there's a reason it's called Challenge. As for true ending on first playthrough... it's... impossible. You need to be able to find a certain information with each MC.
The extra items sound good, Shadow teams are... a pain to set up correctly. You almost always need more than one in the party. It also nerfs lust/dominate acquisitions, since a few Dark units deal permanent damage. On the other hand, they have a few of the best passive terrain changing effects, thus great vs Slime.
 

tehlemon

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Well, 609 shouldn't be that easy, but obviously there's a reason it's called Challenge. As for true ending on first playthrough... it's... impossible. You need to be able to find a certain information with each MC.
I mean, I've played a bit.

Like, maybe a lot a bit.

Like, this might be my fourth unlockables file because the others were completed and I was bored and this is a great "while I eat dinner" game. Assuming you didn't make some bitch'n spicy BBQ wings that were so sticky and messy that you were afraid to touch your mouse without washing your hands twice.

I had a really good dinner tonight. Like, really good. Anyways...

Yeah, 609% true ending with no unlocks on CR0 once you know what you're doing isn't too bad. Doubly so because I set it to a long game and ended up playing Evo because I didn't think I could pull off Crea game one.

I have two problems right now. First, I don't know the time limit in a long game before your locked out of the true ending. If you're too slow, one of the characters gets snatched up by your rival and you're locked out. I'm hoping it'll be 30 days in or later, but I honestly don't remember. I'm at 25 and trying to figure out how to beat the first special board with a wildly underleveled team without saves lol
 
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So I'm absolute garbage at this game apparently. Higher level worlds like Avy's or the new Orc one I just can't handle.

Like the recent Ork one I hit the camp mission and can clear out a majority of the enemies, but the leader orc with 1400 hp just walks around one-shotting my characters.

Any tips? Some of you obviously seem to know what you're doing.
 

tehlemon

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So I'm absolute garbage at this game apparently. Higher level worlds like Avy's or the new Orc one I just can't handle.

Like the recent Ork one I hit the camp mission and can clear out a majority of the enemies, but the leader orc with 1400 hp just walks around one-shotting my characters.

Any tips? Some of you obviously seem to know what you're doing.
With an enemy like that, your options are basically either crowd control or breaking the game. You can absolutely, without cheating, get to the point where you can kill bosses like that in one turn. Killing it with a single character requires some cheese, but that's also doable. It'd take a few pages to explain in detail the best ways to do this, so I'll skip it for now. But if you're curious its been posted in the past, or I could write something up again.

The other option is crowd control. Crowd control is your friend. Even when I've broken the game, I make sure I have some form of handy crowd control for shit going wrong.

There's lots of CC that'll do the trick. Locking them up with lust, blinding them so they can't do shit, terrain manipulation to prevent them from reaching you, or my favorite, simply freezing them. I always find it nice to be able to have reliable freeze.

And now that I think about it, this update might finally be the one that convinces me to stop rocking frost spears on every single melee. The fucking echo blades, holy shit can they be strong.
 

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There's lots of CC that'll do the trick. Locking them up with lust, blinding them so they can't do shit, terrain manipulation to prevent them from reaching you, or my favorite, simply freezing them. I always find it nice to be able to have reliable freeze.
Terrain Manipulation can be absolutely brutal.

Shadow, Slime, Lava, Water, and Snow/Ice all have unpleasant or even dangerous side effects on top of limiting movement. And except for snow/ice, they're really, really easy to spread all over with the right party comp, that will also be completely immune to their downsides and maybe even buffed by them. (Letting a shadow team darken the map is a bad day for almost anything they're fighting. Or a water team flooding it.)
 

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One of the strongest CC is "entangle" and you can abuse it with a Liferoot on your team+anything that can reliably spawn grass to root the whole eney team any turn, it works pretty well with the Druid (natural synergy). Entangle sets AP to 1 and movement to 1, it's completely crippling.
Freeze is also super good, but it's limited to 1/opponent/fight.
 

ankhtar

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"After reaching Avy's world, she gets a different starting option in future runs. (skipping most pet training)"

I can't appreciate this enough. Feeding Xhana is enough of a bother as it is, feeding the pet each and every time on top of that usually just made me skip that quest altogether. Also great to see new weapons, was getting a bit tired of using spectral blades and/or frost spears on everyone.
Welp, time to start over it seems. Been a hot minute but looks like there's new stuff to see. Pity he didn't add more recruitable uniques this time though.
 
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One of the strongest CC is "entangle" and you can abuse it with a Liferoot on your team+anything that can reliably spawn grass to root the whole eney team any turn, it works pretty well with the Druid (natural synergy). Entangle sets AP to 1 and movement to 1, it's completely crippling.
Freeze is also super good, but it's limited to 1/opponent/fight.
I'm pretty bad at min/maxing the breeding part, so I haven't been able to get a liferoot above the high teens for max level.

I came in for cool art and a fap, stayed because I can't let the game win, haha.
 
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I've also started a new unlockable with 607% difficulty as Siena. I tried with Casual difficulty trait and in the first week I got a Guardian, an Assassin and an E_Unit with Energy Bomb. Sweet deal!

The only gripe I have is that they start with 5 maxlevel, even though their genetic level can be much higher.

I'd breed them, but the breeding penalty from the difficulty trait is prohibitive, so fusion is back on the menu.
 
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tehlemon

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Is there a guide for this anyone can provide?
There's not really a good, up to date guide

Just to keep it short and simple, go into the game expecting it to be more of a game with porn rather than porn with a game attached. And its a fairly hard one at that, both difficulty and knowledge-wise. Expect to lose a few times. You'll unlock stuff and learn along the way.

Avoid playing on endless mode or bellow 100% difficulty. You don't get unlocks from those. You can keep playing after the game time ends in endless mode if you want, but at least start with the ability to unlock stuff. Endless mode bad. Don't use it while learning.

Start by learning how to make money. That's focus #1. There's a bunch of easy and reliable money makers. Making money using brothel shows or arena fights scale up as you go. To give you an idea, one brothel show just made me 70000 gold when I ran through it spamming one button with an auto-clicker lol

Definitely play around with the dating system, and don't be like me and forget to upgrade your deck. Dating improves affection which improves just about everything. Work on recruiting the town NPCs. You'll probably fuck it up at first, specially the ones that start at zero lewd because they're harder to win over. But once you get good at it, you'll be able to recruit the town NPCs early in a game and they're a huge boon.

Kings quests are a bitch. Work on them early. You don't have to turn them in immediately though. You get a new one as soon as you turn one in, so sometimes its worth while to wait to buy yourself some time. Just don't forget about them.

If you get combat or breeding quests, don't be afraid to reroll it into an easier quest. Early game, combat and breeding quests are the hardest. It uses rep which you can build up by training his troops or completing quests. Just avoid keeping troops between days as they're expensive. Pick them up, train them, give them back.

If you hire a guard from the insect queen and level it up, you'll unlock the queens quest. The queens quest is really helpful for managing difficulty. I'd recommend you look into this at some point, but don't rush it.

Pay attention to the hostility of portals and fights. That's essentially the difficulty of the encounter. Higher means more enemies that are higher level with better skills. Practice on low hostility portals and arena fights only early on.

These are all things I'd recommend focusing on first.

And then once you've gotten the basics down, start looking into scaling up your units. Specifically, look for ways to get your characters max level to 15-20 (or higher, I won't judge (although the game very likely will crash after about 1000 levels lol))

And then once you've got that down, start looking into methods of breaking the game. Synergies and combat styles. Or making super units with fusion.



Completely unrelated, I'm still working on my first run on a fresh save slowly.

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tehlemon

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I've also started a new unlockable with 609% difficulty as Siena. I tried with Casual difficulty trait and in the first week I got a Guardian, an Assassin and an E_Unit with Energy Bomb. Sweet deal!

The only gripe I have is that they start with 5 maxlevel, even though their genetic level can be much higher.

I'd breed them, but the breeding penalty from the difficulty trait is prohibitive, so fusion is back on the menu.
Wait, wut? The casual trait allows those three races to spawn? The fuck? I assumed it was going to be only the normal rare enemies, not the restricted ones.

I should try that.
 
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Wait, wut? The casual trait allows those three races to spawn? The fuck? I assumed it was going to be only the normal rare enemies, not the restricted ones.

I should try that.
I had one spawn with genes in 10-15 range. ON DAY FOUR. So no, it's not just the special races spawning (though they're less likely to spawn than normal/hybrid races)... it is the baggage they come with, they can have any traits or they can have high genes...

Or both.
 
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Started a new 607% save because I fucked up in the final portal and wanted a fresh change anyway.

With Casual difficulty trait, naturally, because it tickles my gambling bone.

Day one: SwampSlime with ToxicPower, Strong and Scales. Low potential (genes), eh, it's a slime and as Crea I can now summon slimes!
Day two... "A Unknown with low potential and strong traits joined." Charging, HeatResistant and Strong. Aaand... it is adaptable. And I can summon more!

This is going to be a fun game!
 

tehlemon

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Honestly though, that might be more effort than it is worth... Unless you really want the bragging rights.
I mean, I kinda do.

I totally started over again. I'm now on day 15 and I'm already ahead of where I was originally. Like, remember to actually improve my date deck let me abuse the date system for items and all that. I'm way ahead in money. I've somehow got so many skill points that I unlocked support form before even reaching the story portals. And more importantly...

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Literally the only thing I don't have yet, which I had on the previous save, is Angel Potential. But it's a long game and I can cheese essence portals, I'll get it eventually.

I had one spawn with genes in 10-15 range. ON DAY FOUR. So no, it's not just the special races spawning (though they're less likely to spawn than normal/hybrid races)... it is the baggage they come with, they can have any traits or they can have high genes...

Or both.
It didn't look like the casual modifier changed fusing. Being able to get an assassin character while also being able to use fusion is like, bonkers. Like, up until now you'd need to use divine favors to pull that level of broken off. That's kind of dope. I really should have turned on that modifier. I probably will for every other game I play while grinding out CR10 on this save.

Started a new 607% save because I fucked up in the final portal and wanted a fresh change anyway.

With Casual difficulty trait, naturally, because it tickles my gambling bone.

Day one: SwampSlime with ToxicPower, Strong and Scales. Low potential (genes), eh, it's a slime and as Crea I can now summon slimes!
Day two... "A Unknown with low potential and strong traits joined." Charging, HeatResistant and Strong. Aaand... it is adaptable. And I can summon more!

This is going to be a fun game!
lmao

Yeah, I should have used that modifier.

Edit: I really don't know why the spoiler tag is fighting me lately...
Double edit: It's because I'm dumb.
 
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