Thanks for spending so much time on my thing. This is a good community : )
I said it wasn't viable because throwing fireballs with your default starting staff outperformed all the summons put together, but I think your definition is more accurate. Thanks for confirming Evo summoner is viable! I'm gonna stick with Evo.
1. You mentioned Empowered and Oversized. Why not God? Is God a cheat trait from the everything unlocked save? Like you're not supposed to have it? It gives +50% to magic, mana, hp, and str. And is Oversized better than Empowered? Portals have like a large size restriction.
2. How did you hit 170 Magic?
. Level ups give +125%, Magician gives +40%, that's +165% total. 170/2.65 = 64 base magic. How are you getting 64 base magic?
God/Magic form has 8 magic.
Your starting Genes give +10 (but you said you don't go this)
You get like +10 from the skill trees (I'm assuming all the +magic stuff there only gives +1)
That's only 28 magic.
3. Right now I'm going Ascended instead of Magician because I'm
really struggling with farming skill points via breeding right now, and ascended lets me skip all that. Plus I figured all the +magic stats you get from God Form and Skill Trees would let me break even with magician. But if I can get all that without ascended then I'm gonna switch back to Magician because +40% is crazy.
I'm willing to go Ice Spirit to generate Crystals like one of the guides on the wiki says, but that's the only trick I picked up regards to breeding.
It takes like several days to produce 1 egg and then several days again to hatch it. With the game's 15/30/60 day time limit, I don't see myself maxing out any skill trees anywhere near those time limits which makes me depressed and not try at all. And according to the wiki, the breeding pair's lowest virility/fertility stat is used so maxing out my starter's virility won't do jack.
Could you maybe quickly explain how to setup a massive breeding farm A.S.A.P. solely for power farming skill points? Like right at the start of the game, I should do a, b, and c, and then d, e, and f. If it's not too much trouble.
Go 50 Starter points, grab all the negative traits on them, and then max out their max level.
Go Ice Affinity to mass produce crystals
What else?
4. What are your thoughts on Mana Extract? I'm tempted to go that instead of God/Empowered (not gonna go God if it's not really obtainable in a normal game.) Never having to worry about mana again seems like a dream but -20% magic/mana really hurts especially if you're comparing it to +50%/+20%. That's a -70%/-40% drop!
5. You mentioned Summon Slime and SlimeBulbs on the Tanid tree. How do you get Tanid points as Evo without Divine Favor? I just don't understand breeding to farm skill points in this game >.<
Helps me plzzzz
1. It's a cheat trait, but it is obtainable normally if you take the trait archive which lets you summon a creature from the gallery, and then if you use your once a run summon to grab Fliris, assuming you have unlocked them, then you can adapt her Genetic trait "God".
Either that or you play the game as Fliris, those are the two legit ways to get the genetic trait "God" to my knowledge. The cheat unlockable just makes it available from the start, also iirc it locks you out of some of the new content, so definitely switch back when you figure things out
2. I loaded up a save on Freeplay i last played 9 months ago, so beats me lol. I have base 70 mg though, it is godform, i have a total of +235% bonus MG from genetic traits and levels (125% levels, +20% from empowered, possessed, and ancient power, +25% from infused and delicate.)
the rest is coming from equipment, i honestly don't remember what i did to get to this point,also i get 15 mg from godform, it's at level 20 unlock so maybe that's why?
Oh, also the base number gets changed by the 125% from leveling. So if i take your 28, add the 7 more im getting from my godform, and then multiply it out that 78.75, also you can get 11 magic genes with the correct traits, and when i load up an evo with 11 magic(10 in the genes, and the trait choice that gives you+1 to all genes) i start with 16 mg, so i think your base numbers off a bit, you can probably get into the 80's or 90's base.
Anyways, not important lol.
3. faster mg definitely does not break even with +40%, also the +1 speed sounds minor, but it's actually crazy for kiting, and the bonus mana is awesome, especially if you use the extra 3 points for magic adept, giving you a bonus 80% mana.
Don't get me wrong, ascended is busted, but it's best at buffing allies, you're just using it for quick skill points which makes it way below magician for your build imho.
Mana crystals are good, i usually do strip shows for cash or throw my slaves in the brothel after teaching them how to make money in the farm or personally, and then i take cash with me to an overworld with a baggage train of mules or a teleport gem and spam-trade it out for crystals, anything else is just too slow for the kind of industrial fusioning i do lol. Explore the brothel options, it makes crazy money once you make a rep there and the girls make good cash if you combine the right traits and make them sex gods.
Get higher fertility/verility slaves, keep in mind the fertility and verility trait go up when they level up, so carry some serfs through an arena or portal fights a couple time and then set and forget. Mine are futas that do 4 eggs a day each iirc, it's not really a fair comparison because im playing on unlimited on day like 101 in this save file, and i have my farm filled with people with average genes in the mid 40's and max level in the 70's which you cannot do without unlimited. It does mean my Futa Crystal pairs massively over cap the 4 eggs or 6 crystals a day limit though, and the limit's definitely achievable within a couple days.
I will say again though, just straight up buying crystals in the overworld scout event is much much faster, you may want an auto-clicker for it lol.
I would definitely make brothel/breeder starters if you aren't gonna use them in combat, just make them Futa's, level their virility, fertility, and give them brothel score/breeder traits like Light, Beautiful, Albino, Royal, Busty, Breeder, Stable, etc, do give them max genetic traits though so go ahead and fill the rest in with negatives if you want.
Spirits can be reformed over and over to hit level 20 max level genes so just combine them with that after to give them good genes, they really only need ferility and virility to be good guaranted as spirits get boosts to random genes on reforming.
Succubus' are especially good in the brothel btw.
Okay, so, there are lots of ways to rush breeding, here's my suggestion: Start game, drink milk at the tavern every day for free stamina, go to arena and pick strength dialogue option for quicker approval, take the teleport stone at the portal, fuck the succubus at the brothel, rest till full stamina or close enough without wasting day-time, Setup farm for now because this may take a couple days, quick save because you want to hit Devil, Beastgirl?, and the Lres stacking Succubus to stack Lres, start a shift at the brothel, get the devil pact for a free +30%mg, only suck off the beastgirl? once because it drains max morale but has a good form for Evo early and continue options till your shift ends, Do this daily for more Lres as Devil pact gives you -6 Lres, buy any duplicate gear to what you have at the store and then combine them for better early stats, equip yourself and summon spirits to fill your team roster, level spirits up in the Arena(ideally light spirits cus they level up way faster, but ice is fine if you must), when spirits hit level cap reform them boosting their genes and raising level cap, continue to boost spirits till they hit cap or good enough to satisfy you, If you run out of arena fights keep in mind you can do ranked battles and request ranked battles from Aila but you don't get to join those, so if your spirits aren't up to snuff do overworld fights, ideally event portals as they have higher hostility which means more XP faster, start doing strip shows for better rank and money progress in between fights, Spend brothel rank points twice on angel and rest on demon for maximum strip tease money, or 4+ times on the demon for maximum NPC brothel money over time, Make obscene wads of cash stripping, take the teleport stone into an overworld and run around looking for the scout who will trade 200gp for crytals, get like 10k+ crystals, teleport back home, Combine high genetic spirits with starters/tavern recruits/or seduced enemies as you please, you now have actually worthwhile units to breed, it's probably day 5-10 depending on your luck and how picky you are with spirit genes, level your newly fused breeders up a bit, begin breeding using your pick of potions while you mine stone and grab wood to upgrade hatcheries, breed more breeders to breed more breeder to-, you now have a crytsal farm/brothel slave farm, or if you change it up on the genes and aim for the right abilty evolutions and the best secret species its a god-like army farm that can wipe the whole game without breaking a sweat.
Either way your main character is leveled up, you make ungodly money per day either stripping or pimping depending on your route, and now the world is your oyster to do with as you wish.
That's how i power farm, the Wiki does have guides though and if you haven't played MC4 (tut)Oriel she also does have an expanded tutorial with her top left spirit.
4. Naaaw, also in addition to god being not a guaranteed thing, empowered is an optional event reward normally, i honestly never run out of mana, like you can get so much mana it's absurd, take the starter trait that gives bonus% mana, take magician, take devil pact, you now have +110% more mana than you do currently, if im still running out i usually have a full restore on hand or mana pots. Also in non-event portals if you just walk back to the portal it full heals you and restores all mana. Also like half the genetic traits you want will give you more mana in addition to more mg, plus you could go support form for even more mana and i believe it gets timestop letting all your summons act twice, so it might be better than godform, maybe.
5. i go to a hive and seduce tanids, then i fuse four of them with four genetic max level offspring from my spirit fused farms, then i fuse those four together selecting Tanid and Tanid and level 20 genes, i now have two genetic max level 20 pure tanid, i now breed them with all my other pure genetic max level 20 unit's i've been passively making with my farm and the tavern folk/people i seduce in the overworld.
i get 8 free breeds a day so it takes like 1.3 days to do it after my farms set up, i now have 240 tanid points.
You could also just say screw the farm and kidnapp a shitload of people too, that's always been an option, you'll probably just get like 150~ points instead of 240 and have to be more selective with your build path.
