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Jinpaku

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I think everyone agrees the game basically doesn't really have a tutorial. It's got that "quick tutorial" thing, and it's got Tutoriel but the real problem is that the game doesn't break down the systems well enough and doesn't actually list or show examples of this.
Never actually had troubles with this one, honestly, even as a new player.
i don't know how to do fusions whatsoever. it makes no sense. breeding is overly complicated and overwhelms you with units, and data, adding fusion ontop of that is insanity.

if anything should have been reduced it was the amount of character combinations and rate of acquisition, not party slots.

the game still needs serious improvement to UI and tutorials. changes in 31 helped, but still leave a lot to be desired.

still no sound effects. some basic UI or combat sounds would help a lot. like i said before, see pytfall for using a bunch of stock assets to make a decent experience.

multiplayer? :unsure:
VR? :unsure:
Unity includes a bunch of useless stock engine garbage in every game
 

PonyWarrior

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if any of you two desire more ideas outside a look at the partysize changing thing, a change to the overall timings like mining/foresting or even resting, as in the action that happens when you click yourself in the hexagonal map that gives no-stamina moves for 2 turns, not camping which is the R hotkey, they all have different timers.
movement timing change is fine, i believe AP might be global but you can find it with cheat engine by either scanning the values or looking at the mono dissect feature.
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multiplayer? :unsure:
VR? :unsure:
I was just messing around making cheats like infinite AP and infinite date rerolls, not deep game stuff like FlamerionFF. I just saw a cute futa game and wanted to see all the H content it has, not make like a gameplay overhaul.
 

FlamerionFF

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I was just messing around making cheats like infinite AP and infinite date rerolls, not deep game stuff like FlamerionFF. I just saw a cute futa game and wanted to see all the H content it has, not make like a gameplay overhaul.
Notice: I do not do Gameplay Overhaul. Every single option I add is a cheat. I just give options to toggle ANYTHING on/off to tune how much unfair advantage You need to have fun. Or just break it all.
 

dinopara

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Unity includes a bunch of useless stock engine garbage in every game
not really no... i've used mono dissector in a couple of live2d games and they don't have these packages.
maybe syvaron is just don't feel like cleaning it up but it would be funny to see PoP multiplayer and VR but syvaron is more of a artist than a modeler.

I was just messing around making cheats like infinite AP
infinite ap affects enemies too? in CE it's per character.
 

isabucket

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Is there a way to see ALL your characters in a list format, similar to when you're turning in a new species? I keep losing characters in the farm (they're still there but not visible so I can't do anything with them)

**Edit-Never mind, found that if you just select a character, you can go left/right and it'll cycle through everyone if you don't set it to be location specific. This let me FIND the people bugged out. However, I was missing the hotfix that fixes this so mostly just ignore this post.
 
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PonyWarrior

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not really no... i've used mono dissector in a couple of live2d games and they don't have these packages.
maybe syvaron is just don't feel like cleaning it up but it would be funny to see PoP multiplayer and VR but syvaron is more of a artist than a modeler.


infinite ap affects enemies too? in CE it's per character.
Infinite AP for player characters
 

Wayfarer_Xero

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To be fair, i never got too much into breeding and fusing part of the game. It seemed hard, and required to find girls with usefull genes and trait. Fusing just looks like some fucked up unethical experimentation.

I always try to make OP main Character and assemble a party of Uniques. My favourite ones are Natashlia, Zija and Issyn, both because of their looks and skills. The last two (i guess now one) party slots go to mount, if it's required, and whatever Unique i like at the moment.

I like Unique characters, but i wish Syvaron started expanding on their lore and quests, instead of adding 2-3 new ones every update. Natashlia's lore sound interesting, i'd liked to visit her homeworld (If it still exists)
 

PonyWarrior

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good to know-ish, see if you can share with flamerion because his mod lacks the infinite AP, the date hacks work fine and well from his mod.


haven't found yet and it's not in crafting.
Sure

Code:
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Character), nameof(Character.loseAp))]
    class Patch2
    {
        static bool Prefix(Character __instance, int i)
        {
            if (__instance.stats.CurrAp - i < 0 && !__instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.stats.CurrAp = 0;
            }
            else if (!__instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.stats.CurrAp -= i;
            }
            __instance.updateAp(true);
            if (__instance.stats.CurrAp == 0 && __instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.updateSpriteColor();
            }
            return false;
        }
    }
 

TalRash4

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Sure

Code:
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Character), nameof(Character.loseAp))]
    class Patch2
    {
        static bool Prefix(Character __instance, int i)
        {
            if (__instance.stats.CurrAp - i < 0 && !__instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.stats.CurrAp = 0;
            }
            else if (!__instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.stats.CurrAp -= i;
            }
            __instance.updateAp(true);
            if (__instance.stats.CurrAp == 0 && __instance.stats.IsPlayerChar)
            {
                __instance.updateSpriteColor();
            }
            return false;
        }
    }
Now I have a philistine question: how to actually use this?
 

Altruant

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>1/5 of your damage is cut down just "to make it more accessible"

Lol
The first thing that comes to mind is the god end, since you already lose two slot to AN13 and terra, leaving you 3 optimised girls, so now only 2 ? Fuck, still possible but it'll be painful for newbies that don't minmax.
You only need to bring AN13 for the God end. Terranva is for the Neora end. You DO need both AN13 and Terranva to trigger both those ends at the same time
 
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FlamerionFF

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This is a preview, a RC1, a whatever. I do not have time to test everything properly so it's not 1.0.9 I wish it will be and I can't get it in time. So here is bit cropped out Download

New:
  1. Prevent Current Health Reduction
  2. Prevent Current Mana Reduction
  3. Prevent Current Stamina Reduction
  4. Prevent Current AP Reduction
  5. *Volatile* Adjust party size
To-Do:
Testing different ways to approach reduction prevention.
Some events still degrade current stats. The hunt is on.
Energy.
Notes:
Party size is untested, UI is not designed for it and party members will cover Overview menu (MMB by default) elemets, and I doubt I ever bother to make something about it.
 

dinopara

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Party size is untested, UI is not designed for it and party members will cover Overview menu (MMB by default) elemets, and I doubt I ever bother to make something about it.
will test it for you but can't your mod force a certain character to be recognized as active in the party? item wise you can check the keep items box and you can keep the character in whatever but have the mod tell the game to consider that character in the party, similar to how reserve characters work but that's just me putting one and two together from seeing how the game werks, i haven't touched unity since 2016f and i do not know how the UI elements are working now related to internal stuff that your mod may nor may not be able to access it.
 
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FlamerionFF

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force a certain character to be recognized as active in the party?
I'm not sure I follow what You want...
Technically I can add option to accept character ID's and on any party update check if they are in party and force them in.
Like
Force this characters into party: 3,7,42,69,113
And hook check to any forced changes in party. If N not in party add N to party.
Would be great to make a button to write Your current party ID's somewhere.
 
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tabita333

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i am remembering things, stamina recovery still broken because of some silly reason, you can't camp and restore stamina, you can't restore stamina by eating the yellow fruit or resting with the mermaid event, either something broke or some minmaxxer complained to syvaron that stamina should be a valuable resource and only be rechargeable with potions and in the overworld which is par for the course considering the changes past 0.20 :FacePalm:
Well it's just 0.31. Game somewhat functional, more or less but probably far from being complete. Anyway, as is, game is functional, but being pretty substantial, still has lot's of things to be balanced, fixed and added or complete.
 

dinopara

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I'm not sure I follow what You want...
Technically I can add option to accept character ID's and on any party update check if they are in party and force them in.
Like
Force this characters into party: 3,7,42,69,113
And hook check to any forced changes in party. If N not in party add N to party.
Would be great to make a button to write Your current party ID's somewhere.
pretty much that, if there is a id then you can read it, right?

like i can keep a character with ID 58 in the brothel but force the game to recognize it as active in the party while still carrying the other 4 party characters, the game seems to have a hardcoded 10 character limit but maybe that can be changed? i made the partysize 14 but once i finished the fight i had to let some characters go in order to go back to the 10 max.
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also now i know what do you mean with UI being unsupported but it's not really meant to be like that so it's fine :KEK:
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one thing you can do to trigger this image is to slowly convert other characters with a prolonged fight, sure you will have to say goodbye to some but it's doable to do without using mods/CE once you unlock the orc/elf world, a note to leave for syvaron :Kappa:
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disabling the size limit and going into a fight with 10 active characters fixes itself by putting some in the reserve, going back to the 5 party limit.
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Well it's just 0.31. Game somewhat functional, more or less but probably far from being complete. Anyway, as is, game is functional, but being pretty substantial, still has lot's of things to be balanced, fixed and added or complete.
not "it's just 0.31", stamina recovery has been broken for a long time.
 
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Mermoosh

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not "it's just 0.31", stamina recovery has been broken for a long time.
Stamina works fine for me.

You only recover stamina at camp if you have less then certain amount and resting at camp gives you "Rest" buff that removes stamina consumption for next X steps. Resting for 2 hours allows you to save 20 stamina across all party and it is more effective than sleeping which gives 8.3 stamina per hour. Same rest buff is applied by resting mermaid event.

Yellow fruit event also works fine, it just recovers 10 stamina to MC.
 
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