Unity Price for Freedom: Avarice [Build 37.2] [Team Dead Deer]

[Valaska]

Oooh so Galar Nua is only inhabited by (closeted furry) elves, humans and (although rare) kobolds? Does this mean other lizardfolk like Nagas/etc, are not in the region yet?

Wooow these are a lot of races, thanks! Also what do the Nampalas look like? Do you have art/concept of them somewhere? (My brain is a visual learner and doesn't imagine things well)

There are undead down there too, island elves will sail there from time to time, there are old Ohmish colonies but they wre mandated back to the locals at one point. Jor isn't as fleshed out and planned as Lovania yet. It is where the Rotten King came from, Galar Nua is there, the very south of it is a very mineral rich but extremely hard to inhabit area and its mentioned in Samara's boat quest! Elsemere or Essemer? I forget the name I gave it haha. There might be a cold-weather inhabiting people down there, likely humans or maybe giants? Jor is still WIP though there's some stuff planned out for it already. Yurjhat is almost a blank slate currently.

Archive Of Our Own! Thus AO3 because of the triple Os lol. It is a fic archive website. I'm planning to post it there. I can't post it on other websites like Wattpad (cause of stupid ol' NSFW regulations) and others.
Wooow these are a lot of races, thanks! Also what do the Nampalas look like? Do you have art/concept of them somewhere? (My brain is a visual learner and doesn't imagine things well)

Oh neat! Link it to us when we are gone. We have concepts for the Nampala yeah. And I get that, I used to be able to have full fantasia-mental imaging, but then I took a nerve pain medication which made me a partial Aphant... sucks lol.

1. Are you implying the lizardfolk in PFF did bestiality/zoophilia at some point? Sheesh.
2. Does this mean Aeyl's are implied to have incestuous backgrounds? Interesting...

1. It's not a thing they want to experiment with and culturally rejected as a thing, seen as potentially dangerous and wrong.
2. Nope! The majority of the world have no idea why they happen or when/where. Humans produce them sometimes, and soemtimes elves but its mostly humans. You do not nee dot be related to your partner to produce an Aeyl haha... people just have little to no idea why they happen.

1. Is magic common in this world? I did see Magic Stones in the comic but never seen them get used in the other panels, just for a brief second. Like, do mages/wizard exist? Are things powered by the magic stones as well and not hard technology? (Like, for example, are cannons powered by magic to shoot the cannon ball rather than black powder?)

2. I don't recall the world having a name yet, does the world in PFF have a name yet? Or is it base name like Earth?

3. Also do you or others have a map of PFF yet? I haven't been able to find any in the wiki and was wondering if there's a detailed cartographical chart of the entire world?

4. Also Also, do guns exist in this world? Like the higher level of it to be specific? I've seen things like muskets in the comic but I assume rifles/bolt-action rifles are not produced/invented yet, right? I wonder what level of the tech tree they are on right now?

5. Also Also Also (That's a lot of Alsos) are condoms/sex products invented yet? I don't want my protag getting fantasy STDs unless I make some goddess/god gave him the blessing of being immune from said diseases. (Wink wink Yela Wink wink) Oh and talking about gods, what deities are there in PFF? There's Yela but I haven't heard other gods yet.

Really appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions lol, never thought I'd chat with one of the guys behind the game.

1. Magic is pretty common, but expensive. If you are capable of making the magical circuits and getting the energy sources you can do it. But it is fairly expensive so its not used for low-applications. This changes in a place like Novencia which is a much wealthier country, or Ohmes which also is fairly wealthy but they use magic in different ways for different things quite often. Magic can be great for food storage, water heating, etc.
2. Eade
3. Yeah I actually posted it above before I read this... as for our detailed version, it exists! We post it in our discord from time to time.
4. Yes! Guns exist, match, flint, and wheellock. Speelllock and magilock, too. Bolt action rifles are... basically prototype and concep one offs during the Webcomic times but nothing close to production. There will be experiments towards lever and such as the years progress. Right now the heaviest users of firearms are the Ohmish Dragoons and the Novencian Voltigeurs and Chassuers in the time of the game.
5. Yes, condom technology is obviously not... super well advanced. It uses intestine skins since plastics and petrochemicals are not a thing. Pesasry's are pretty common in the Atlathkan and Saphire coast, an imported technology from Novencia and Ohmes, albeit it is older and those two countries are using actual IUDs. Some wealthier people import them from Novencia in teh area of the game! Sponges with citric acid as a form of spermicide, sponges in general, caps are used as contraceptives. Unfortuantely tehre are STIs but hygeine is pretty good in our setting so as long as you aren't sticking your dick in some... obviously bad places, you are generally safe. At the moment i think we have only publicly confirmed Yela and The Order which has a patriarchal god.

Oh yeah there are some tinctures and teas used for contraception too, Queen Annes Lace is one, and there's other teas and such. Some are effective, many are wives tales and not really effective but people still do them. The Ohmish for instance think Thistle tea helps delay their cycle or lessen the effects especially while deployed... but in fact its their IUD which are so effective for prevention and regulation. It was VERY important to Ohmes to keep their soldiers from gettingknocked up while deployed.

 

[Johnwell_1]

There are undead down there too, island elves will sail there from time to time, there are old Ohmish colonies but they wre mandated back to the locals at one point. Jor isn't as fleshed out and planned as Lovania yet. It is where the Rotten King came from, Galar Nua is there, the very south of it is a very mineral rich but extremely hard to inhabit area and its mentioned in Samara's boat quest! Elsemere or Essemer? I forget the name I gave it haha. There might be a cold-weather inhabiting people down there, likely humans or maybe giants? Jor is still WIP though there's some stuff planned out for it already. Yurjhat is almost a blank slate currently.
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Perfect! Just what I need to add my little tidbits of head canon lore into the world, thanks!

Oh neat! Link it to us when we are gone.

I dunno if you mean when you're literally gone lol but yeah I'll give it when I post it!

We have concepts for the Nampala yeah. And I get that, I used to be able to have full fantasia-mental imaging, but then I took a nerve pain medication which made me a partial Aphant... sucks lol.
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Ahh cool bugger! Is this drawn by ArbuzBudesh? Very cool art.

1. It's not a thing they want to experiment with and culturally rejected as a thing, seen as potentially dangerous and wrong.
2. Nope! The majority of the world have no idea why they happen or when/where. Humans produce them sometimes, and soemtimes elves but its mostly humans. You do not nee dot be related to your partner to produce an Aeyl haha... people just have little to no idea why they happen.

1. Oh, good! Thought lizardfolk were just freaky in general, thanks for clarifying.
2. I swear the Aeyl is the work of some sick furry fetishizing god that's been stopped by some candid hero in the past. (But damn does his fetish look good)

1. Magic is pretty common, but expensive. If you are capable of making the magical circuits and getting the energy sources you can do it. But it is fairly expensive so its not used for low-applications. This changes in a place like Novencia which is a much wealthier country, or Ohmes which also is fairly wealthy but they use magic in different ways for different things quite often. Magic can be great for food storage, water heating, etc.
2. Eade
3. Yeah I actually posted it above before I read this... as for our detailed version, it exists! We post it in our discord from time to time.

[*]Yes! Guns exist, match, flint, and wheellock. Speelllock and magilock, too. Bolt action rifles are... basically prototype and concep one offs during the Webcomic times but nothing close to production. There will be experiments towards lever and such as the years progress. Right now the heaviest users of firearms are the Ohmish Dragoons and the Novencian Voltigeurs and Chassuers in the time of the game.

Hmm I wonder if there's a future modern version of Eade? Might be an exciting spin-off series set in the future of modern Eade.

[*]Yes, condom technology is obviously not... super well advanced. It uses intestine skins since plastics and petrochemicals are not a thing. Pesasry's are pretty common in the Atlathkan and Saphire coast, an imported technology from Novencia and Ohmes, albeit it is older and those two countries are using actual IUDs. Some wealthier people import them from Novencia in teh area of the game! Sponges with citric acid as a form of spermicide, sponges in general, caps are used as contraceptives. Unfortuantely tehre are STIs but hygeine is pretty good in our setting so as long as you aren't sticking your dick in some... obviously bad places, you are generally safe. At the moment i think we have only publicly confirmed Yela and The Order which has a patriarchal god.

Good to know there's only one god as of the moment, was worried I might've ignored someother gods. Also thanks for the sex lore infodump lol

Oh yeah there are some tinctures and teas used for contraception too, Queen Annes Lace is one, and there's other teas and such. Some are effective, many are wives tales and not really effective but people still do them.

This is very, very useful! Though I gotta ask, where'd you get this whole info from??? I myself have an abundance of sources (mainly from other people that have a background in military/are military enthusiasts) but have never found such info like the ones you've listed.

The Ohmish for instance think Thistle tea helps delay their cycle or lessen the effects especially while deployed... but in fact its their IUD which are so effective for prevention and regulation. It was VERY important to Ohmes to keep their soldiers from getting knocked up while deployed.

Though this makes me wonder what IUD they were using? In such a setting like PFF there has to be some historical relevancy to our own and how IUD came to be, right?

 

[Valaska]

This is very, very useful! Though I gotta ask, where'd you get this whole info from??? I myself have an abundance of sources (mainly from other people that have a background in military/are military enthusiasts) but have never found such info like the ones you've listed.

Uhhh, lots of reading, googling to fill in gaps. Wikipedia is mostly a fine resource for surface or reasonably good information on some stuff, but with alittle more digging you can find blogs, PubMed, or sources from before 2016 tended to be blogs or articles written on bespoke sites for some topics. The one I used to design how our world is progressing through medical science of sepsis, anti-septic, and etc theory, for instance, was a guy who was a doctor who just enjoyed writing the history of the sepsis theory. Sometimes I will buy books and read them like "The Politics of Breastfeeding" and such.

If you can get a hold of old print media collections of Encylopedia world they have information that will be impossible to find otherwise and is frankly lost outside of academic circles.

Though this makes me wonder what IUD they were using? In such a setting like PFF there has to be some historical relevancy to our own and how IUD came to be, right?

The Ohmish use a cold weather silk worm native to their area and they use that with a copper, silver, or gold ring to implant, and it will have a "tail" to be removed using that silkworm gut, too. The gut is wrapped around the ring to make it easier to accept.

Novencia has further takent his technology and designed it into a more T-Design, though the Ohmish are still a little wary of this... but combining it with silkworm gut they are a bit more confident in using it as they make the edges softer and more safe for implantation and removal. The arms are affixed via gelatin that bhound the arms and dissolved, or a secondary line of silkworm gut which is pulled and removed at the end.

In the end, is is a highly effective device that regulates their periods, drops the chances of contraception to nearly zero, and can be removed when desired. Novencian women prefer IUDs to their traditional sponge design, though the sponge is reasonably effective too, and spread around as a MUCH cheaper and much more repeatable device.

Condoms made from the bladder or intestine of livestock are one of the only ways to prevent STDs in the setting, aside from good hygiene which is very effective btw to cut down on STI rates. Condoms in Kazahd for instance are mostly designed just to fit on the head of the penis, are often made of a coated silk, and are fixed with a little ribbon... but this is actually pretty effective at preventing transmission and contraction of STIs!

Some places that are far more puritan like Mourn though eschew this sort of thing and sex outside marriage so their contraception technology is WAY behind other areas... and, the transmission of communicable diseases are higher there, since you are NEVER going to stop people from fucking.

 

[anon114]

Haha yeah the Shaman is bangin.

Aesthetic equipment would be rough, if we did aesthetic changes it'd be only Redic I think... or maybe after you finish all their quests, but we have no plans atm. But yeah we definitely need to change-up better difine the companions and their roles to be much more standout from one another, but we also need to avoid any of them getting left behind or not-useable.

Thank you for responding. I really hope we see more of her in the future. (and more Zahara and snake friends as well)
And yeah, I don't know how tough it would be to add 3 outfits for each companion, so I'll let you guys figure it out. Honestly I wouldn't mind the low companion limit if each of them was fleshed out more. But yes, one big critique I have with the game is even tho the presentation is really good....the combat animations are really not. They feel a bit floaty and don't have as much impact as one feels they should. Maybe get a bit more gory with it, or have less combat but with more enemies per combat
Up to you! Id love to discuss it more

 

[Valaska]

So deck just copy-pasted my post here into our wiki as a wakeup call to write it to the wiki haha... so I went and edited this and added more details and smoothed it out to be more official haha...

Johnwell_1

Honestly I wouldn't mind the low companion limit if each of them was fleshed out more. But yes, one big critique I have with the game is even tho the presentation is really good....the combat animations are really not. They feel a bit floaty and don't have as much impact as one feels they should.

I thiiiink they are very well fleshed out as characters, but I think you mean visual flair and such??? Then yeah it might be neat! In Final Fantasy Tactics we saw Ramza Beoulve and Delita Heiral change their look over the span of the game which was a cool feature. But I didn't mind that Agrias Oaks had one look since it was so SO good/solid... we can look into some visual changes potentially though in the future. Maybe post-release content.

Yeah, my suggestion was hit stops, we need to not animated the swings and have just a cutaway instead of trying to force the rigs to work for our attacks IMO.... my opinion we need to have like, art specific for swings and such, and they do not even need to be animated they could be just still shots for the attacks with some effects.

Samara's rig is the most up-to-date for combat and its pretty good IMO! But like, the limitations of spine/rigging animations is clear. We need to... have still transitions and such imo.

 

[anon114]

So deck just copy-pasted my post here into our wiki as a wakeup call to write it to the wiki haha... so I went and edited this and added more details and smoothed it out to be more official haha...

Johnwell_1

I thiiiink they are very well fleshed out as characters, but I think you mean visual flair and such??? Then yeah it might be neat! In Final Fantasy Tactics we saw Ramza Beoulve and Delita Heiral change their look over the span of the game which was a cool feature. But I didn't mind that Agrias Oaks had one look since it was so SO good/solid... we can look into some visual changes potentially though in the future. Maybe post-release content.

Character wise they're all great, I love them
I meant more along the lines of gameplay since some characters don't really have a lot of abilities while others do and how we don't really have stuff like dedicated range and healing, hiho is good but I feel it could be so much more. It would also really be cool to see different forms of attack like I mentioned before.
I.e.
magic
potion/posion throwing
characters that could specialize in area control
characters that specialize in using consumables
Characters that specialize moving allies and enemies
pure support characters
Etc

other than that yeah visual stuff either through armor or story is fun.

 

[Valaska]

Character wise they're all great, I love them
I meant more along the lines of gameplay since some characters don't really have a lot of abilities while others do and how we don't really have stuff like dedicated range and healing, hiho is good but I feel it could be so much more. It would also really be cool to see different forms of attack like I mentioned before.
I.e.
magic
potion/posion throwing
characters that could specialize in area control
characters that specialize in using consumables
Characters that specialize moving allies and enemies
pure support characters
Etc

other than that yeah visual stuff either through armor or story is fun.

Ohhh yeah I get 100% where you are coming from and hopefully we can do something for mid/late game otufit changes or maybe sometihng connected to their story arcs. I can't promise anything because it basically means re-rigging etc... which, imo I think we need to do other than Samara and Hiho for rigging.

And yeah our characters have basic ideas of how we want to set them apart at the moment. Magic... its real different in our setting than PFF so magic would be more like utility items tbh. BUt all really good suggestions we need to seriously consider for sure.

 

[rainbowvomit]

I think dialogue in government district w mage explains pretty neatly why you dont encounter mages on the battlefield. Well, 1 shaman in demonstration excluding))
the [not yet implimented] does a toll on skills, anything that seems to be even theoretical useful has this mark. Not to mention that redic`s 1st skill + thrust + MAYBE str skill bonus w speed does the trick w samara and scylla in party.
Also looting that pain jacket from chief rat or buying them somewhere mid-late game or idk, some more protection gear? i mean even leather jackets would do better for characters. Thought ours seems to be agility-related, so to say. And quest-befriended smith to get some bit better weapons.
On other hands give or take, game seems to cover what, 3 month time tops? Only blank is Scylla and Hino Recovery time, for like....idk, 2-3 weeks? Too short for them in getting used to new weapons...

 

[Malagga]

Hi, love this game.

I am replaying this after 1,5 or two years and am about to finish Whispering Brook. Immaculate atmosphere by the way.
There is just one question:

What happens if I accept Mara's bargain?
I know there is a h-scene, but is there a difference mechanically and narratively to just killing Mara?

This question has surely been asked before, but I couldn't find a direct answer over the search-function.

 

[Valaska]

I think dialogue in government district w mage explains pretty neatly why you dont encounter mages on the battlefield. Well, 1 shaman in demonstration excluding))
the [not yet implimented] does a toll on skills, anything that seems to be even theoretical useful has this mark. Not to mention that redic`s 1st skill + thrust + MAYBE str skill bonus w speed does the trick w samara and scylla in party.
Also looting that pain jacket from chief rat or buying them somewhere mid-late game or idk, some more protection gear? i mean even leather jackets would do better for characters. Thought ours seems to be agility-related, so to say. And quest-befriended smith to get some bit better weapons.
On other hands give or take, game seems to cover what, 3 month time tops? Only blank is Scylla and Hino Recovery time, for like....idk, 2-3 weeks? Too short for them in getting used to new weapons...

Yeah, it is a brief-ish window for sure. I am not FULLY settled on the length of the events, but each trip to and from the locations out of town at least take a night or two. Whispering Brook is the span of a week-ish in total for instance. Travelling to Osh'to's tribe takes a while, like a few weeks at least. Scylla's recovery time being about 14 days would be about in line and accurate!

We might have a couple of them learning some new tools, but you are 100% right that they won't be just randomly picking up whole new "platforms" and learning them haha. Osh'to would be pretty versatile, she's a mercenary who'd have to have used quite a few different weapons. REdic did his schooling at an Einadian military academy so he'll know your common weapons and some uncommon ones.

Scylla... knows it all. Ohmes is basically an "ethical child soldiers" situation, lol. So she knows how to man a pike line, wield two and one-handed swords, maces, hammers, arbalests, crossbows, firearms etc. Anythign that Ohmes employs. Since she was royalty there and expected to be active service she had to have a familiarity on everything, whereas the garrison/militias focus their training on specific roles and equipment. So a bowman would have train on the bow constantly, but might learn how to use a pike/spear.

Hi, love this game.

I am replaying this after 1,5 or two years and am about to finish Whispering Brook. Immaculate atmosphere by the way.
There is just one question:

What happens if I accept Mara's bargain?
I know there is a h-scene, but is there a difference mechanically and narratively to just killing Mara?

This question has surely been asked before, but I couldn't find a direct answer over the search-function.

So there should be 3 paths atm but I think only 2 are available. There is;

Redemption
- Talk her down, accept her gift
- Talk her down, reject the gift
Corruption
- Accept her actions, accept her gift

Killing Mara obviously... well, kills Mara. All her future appearances will not happen, her talks with LW, her at the Senate, future content in whispering brook showing the aftermath, her showing up in town, and her life after the game are done. She's dead. The gift gives you a small change, but rejecting her gift... will have other effects that I won't be spoiling.

 

[Loocy]

2 questions:
On Steam, there is "Gold and Sand", is that suppose to be the sequel to this game?
Do any of those games have a female/futa protag and correlating scenes?

 

[rainbowvomit]

2 questions:
On Steam, there is "Gold and Sand", is that suppose to be the sequel to this game?
Do any of those games have a female/futa protag and correlating scenes?

gold and sand is rather prequel
According to comix LW can be a futa if she wants, but so far it's not encountered in game

 

[Valaska]

2 questions:
On Steam, there is "Gold and Sand", is that suppose to be the sequel to this game?
Do any of those games have a female/futa protag and correlating scenes?

Yeah as Rainbowvomit said, GnS is set 3-ish years before Avarice give or take a few months.

We have no futa scenes as of yet

 

[DriKidu]

What do you do whit the unfinished gizmo from the bandit fort?

 

[rainbowvomit]

What do you do whit the unfinished gizmo from the bandit fort?

you put it with other unfinished items (armor) in the chest and w8 for the content update. Which in my speculations will be with pistol for Redic and around stable beta/possibly EA for Gold and Sand - we'll be lucky to get it mid 2025. Even with amount of recycled locations even Avarice has some place for new locations on the map.

 

[rainbowvomit]

dying for someone to upload it

 

[UnDoubleUpUhUh]

Does Build 35 Beta 1 require the crack? Or is it the Patreon version?

 

[Sir Weshmish]

Dude...I though the pink hottie could be a team member not a whore. Why??

 

[gamer2012boy]

playd few yers bck.. wil build 100 b d final? any1 knws hw mch content til now or left 4 completion?

 

[Chad54321]

So there should be 3 paths atm but I think only 2 are available. There is;

Redemption
- Talk her down, accept her gift
- Talk her down, reject the gift
Corruption
- Accept her actions, accept her gift

Killing Mara obviously... well, kills Mara. All her future appearances will not happen, her talks with LW, her at the Senate, future content in whispering brook showing the aftermath, her showing up in town, and her life after the game are done. She's dead. The gift gives you a small change, but rejecting her gift... will have other effects that I won't be spoiling.

I'm assuming by gift you mean

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If it is, wouldnt accepting it be worse then rejecting it, given what we see in the game?