RPGM Princess in the Tower 2 [v0.4.2] [X-Dew]

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exter

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The majority voted goblin because the majority was a patreon because of the first game. The outcome of the vote was already set before it was created.
So... the people who pay for the game get what they are paying for, but that is now a bad thing?
 
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jaques

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So... the people who pay for the game get what they are paying for, but that is now a bad thing?
They already did, didn't they, with the first game? Might have even attracted new patreons if the game continued to go with a different route.
 

exter

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They already did, didn't they, with the first game? Might have even attracted new patreons if the game continued to go with a different route.
I dont know if new attracting new patreons is even a valid point. If his patreons voted for the goblin, then its a better idea to go with it, because they are already paying. If the dev would still change it to a human, then some of the patreons might just leave and there is no guarantee, that new patreons will join or that the number even increases.
I personally did not play the first game because i did not like the looks of it. I think this new version is a big improvement in terms of looks and this alone made me try the game. I can imagine, that a lot of the patreons would also be happy about this upgrade, since they get the game they paid for but in a better quality. And ultimately it is the devs decision what they do with their game. If they want to make the same game again and again, then they are free to do so.
Sure, you can comment on what you dont like about the game or what you think would be better, but depending on how you comment on it, it might just come of as demanding.
 

exter

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I think you misunderstood. The game started out with a human mc.
Oh i know that, since that version is still available in the OP, but still there was a change because the patreons voted for it. My point was, that it would not have been better if the dev decided to go against the vote by sticking with a human. My wording on "still change it to a human" might have been a bad choice, i can see that.
 

X-Dew

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Oh i know that, since that version is still available in the OP, but still there was a change because the patreons voted for it. My point was, that it would not have been better if the dev decided to go against the vote by sticking with a human. My wording on "still change it to a human" might have been a bad choice, i can see that.
At first, I wanted to keep the MC from Game 1, but that would’ve gone against TOS, so I had to come up with someone new. I wasn’t totally sure about going with a human but decided to try it. After the release, there weren’t really any complaints, in fact, a lot of people liked the new human MC and shared thoughtful feedback, which made me reconsider things. I started to feel that a goblin MC might be a way better fit, and honestly, I was more than ready to make that change. The poll was mostly just to get everyone’s approval for it. So, the human MC will no longer be in the game.
 

Beep002

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I was going to come here and say how this game has potential and how I would gladly support the dev by donating monthly to it, until I got to the damn part about "washing yourself so the princess can teach you how to read". From the moment you have to read a 'step by step' on a pirate site because the game didn't explain it to you inside it, that explains why it's a game because the game is very poorly instructed, this game is very poorly intuitive.
 

Sir Weshmish

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Thing is, there is already a princess in the tower game with a goblin game, from this same dev with the same premise. Anyone that wants to be a goblin are free to play that game. This game started with a human MC and there was zero reason to change it. Would've also allowed to explore different angles and story lines, instead of rethreading the same plots that are already there in the other game.
That's totally fair man, honestly yeah I would want a human too under the guidance of a goblin. Previous game was a goblin and dev did abandoned it. Well, on-hold now but that was much later. I'm cautiously moving with this game to see how it holds up.
 

Sir Weshmish

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At first, I wanted to keep the MC from Game 1, but that would’ve gone against TOS, so I had to come up with someone new. I wasn’t totally sure about going with a human but decided to try it. After the release, there weren’t really any complaints, in fact, a lot of people liked the new human MC and shared thoughtful feedback, which made me reconsider things. I started to feel that a goblin MC might be a way better fit, and honestly, I was more than ready to make that change. The poll was mostly just to get everyone’s approval for it. So, the human MC will no longer be in the game.
I get it. Do what you see fit but don't overboard it to oblivion to cater all sides. While I do prefer human, if you think a goblin MC can sprout you new ideas and bring new event to the game. Continue on then.
 
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jaques

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At first, I wanted to keep the MC from Game 1, but that would’ve gone against TOS, so I had to come up with someone new. I wasn’t totally sure about going with a human but decided to try it. After the release, there weren’t really any complaints, in fact, a lot of people liked the new human MC and shared thoughtful feedback, which made me reconsider things. I started to feel that a goblin MC might be a way better fit, and honestly, I was more than ready to make that change. The poll was mostly just to get everyone’s approval for it. So, the human MC will no longer be in the game.
Most had no problems with the human MC, but somehow it still went to goblin for $reasons? Is it because rethreading the previous game is easier than actually thinking up a new story?
 

Rolo

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Most had no problems with the human MC, but somehow it still went to goblin for $reasons? Is it because rethreading the previous game is easier than actually thinking up a new story?
The poll didnt just show that a clear majority was against a human MC and for a goblin MC,
This majority was a 90:10 majority !
 

Rolo

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... until I got to the damn part about "washing yourself so the princess can teach you how to read". From the moment you have to read a 'step by step' on a pirate site because the game didn't explain it to you inside it, that explains why it's a game because the game is very poorly instructed, this game is very poorly intuitive.
I cannot agree with this, and impo the game is intuitive.
In the research room there is a picture which clearly looks like a washtub (and the text tells you it is one).
Washtubs might be for washing yourself. So craft one and you find it in your room. Wash yourself and the princess is satisfied.
 

jaques

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The poll didnt just show that a clear majority was against a human MC and for a goblin MC,
This majority was a 90:10 majority !
The poll only says a majority (whom were fans of the first goblin game) had a preference for a goblin MC after being asked to provide that preference.

Dev literally says
in fact, a lot of people liked the new human MC
Which implies that his patreon would not have imploded if he kept the human MC. But rather than grow his audience and explore new plotlines the dev initiated a poll that should not have happened and rethread an old plot (because easy?) for an existing game to appease an existing fanbase (which according to the dev didn't have to be appeased in the first place).

Wild decision and I will die on that hill.
 
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