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Poser_Voyeur

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I'm going to throw my lot in with those who'd like to see the kink/trait thresholds relaxed, and here's why.

I don't actually value a game for forced replayability. I have to want to replay the game because it's great. Not because the dev wanted me to so I could get all the scenes (which, as there's a gallery mod, I can do without replaying the game). My completist fetish at work, I guess.

I fully understand branching when things are in opposition. Dominance/submission, vanilla/kinky, and so forth. But if I love anal, it doesn't mean I don't love oral as well. I don't think group sex or cheating are incompatible with a desire for big dicks. I don't believe a player should be penalized for choosing relatable kinks or traits. The game is currently imbalanced against compatible kinks, and requires the player to make unpleasant choices. Getting the full bestiality scene in chapter one is a good example; the cum fetish gate requires the MC to do some very distasteful things earlier in the game. None of them have anything to do with bestiality, so why?

Replayability isn't an uncomplicated goal. It requires clever coding. You have so many variables at work, and I do appreciate that, but I think your game would be better if the gated content was more specific. Only things that can't exist on a specific path (dom/sub, faithful/not, etc.) should be gated.

Another expample: I didn't, until iinstalled the gallery mod, realize that I could have a scene with William so early. The reason I didn't is that the game gives me zero guidance that I could. I do the nice thing with Bobo and I don't get William. Well, why? Other than forcing me to replay the game, what's the narrative choice here? I have to make Myriam kinda callous and suddenly she's in her big-dicked young neighbor's bed, but there's no logical chain of events that put me there. Why am I being rewarded for being indifferent to Bobo?
100% agree. I missed the scenes with William first and second time around as got no hint from the Walkthrough that there was even an option. I was not sure if gallery mod was compatible with both Walkthrough Mod and Incest Patch. So I had to copy fresh copy of game into different folder and add Gallery Mod alone to see what scenes I had missed, and the William scenes were the main ones. Then Zorlun took the time to explain how to trigger the William scenes which will help my nect playthrough.

The more branches there are early on, the more complicated will be the subsequent coding. As you said if you had choices such as dominance/submission, vanilla/kinky, or even lustful/romantic, then those should determine the main branching and the secondary kinks should have some thresholds but not too severe.
 

Kheram

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I don't know I think I would enjoy making prince charming slowly aware of who (and what) his princess already had sex with. Would be hilarious to see his eyes slowly widen. :LUL:
And what if he find it amusing, exciting and will promote it more?
 
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DirtyMario

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And what if he find it amusing, exciting and will promote it more?
Then he's a cuck and needs to be terminated.

But atleast Big Willy William has size going for him, after all the horse & big dicks she’s gonna get stuffed with, she won’t even feel any small guys in her
Ugh I hate this so much.
That is such a cheap and crusty trope.
"Why is he so successful with the ladies I don't understand?"
>he has a horsedick
(97% of male MC games ever)
 

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Apart from that, I wonder how that William arc is going to progress, if at all. I mean he just met Myriam once briefly and the next time they meet he
Well, that was only if you played in a certain way. Specifically, it may not have been the only way in which you could get or skip, but from what I saw, it depended on whethere you did something taking your time and being extra nice, or only being nice (not giving details to avoid spoiler), which decided how you would get home, and even if you met him, from what I have seen, you could still stop things.
Plus, I myself played doing lots of "stuff", but if one played differently, it could be basically possible that she ends up doing almost nothing, at least "around", till when happens what you mention, and then after she could actually refuse most opportunities - if that was the case, it would not be impossible that one ends up doing a play in which William becomes pretty much the only partner, kind of the "romantic lover path".
Though in terms of being extra nice, even if I am not especially favouring the kind of "Lesbian incest" path, Katherine for sure is also very much loving and protective of her mother, in a way, taking from her, the way in which Marc has taken more from the father - so, one could also see a "romantic lover path" that would be also on the sweet side, although with the incest element.
"Romantic lover" does not exclude racy sex, it just changes the way one gets there, sees it, and sees the after.
 
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Great game, but in my opinion, it lacks a walkthrough or at least some guide.

Or add the possibility of "legal cheating", when you can add 1-2 missing points to a certain parameter at the right time.

It is very annoying to go to a certain point in the plot, and realize that you are missing one point to open the scene.

I understand that this was done for replayability and creating your own Miriam, but in the end, the whole gameplay turns into a grind of certain points, and not making your own decisions.
I've tried restarting the game over again at the point of the porn maga in the motel 3 times now and I've somehow not been able to get the required 15 points for the cassius blowjob scene. I always end up with 14/15 points. It would be nice to have a walkthrough as I cannot use the mod because I use a chromebook and mods or downloads for the game don't work on a chromebook. Not sure where I go wrong I do get the required 9/9 cum kink points with the Aiden stall scene. Am I supposed to have more then the 9 cum kink points by the time I get to Aiden stall scene? If I only have to have 9 points at that point then that narrows down where my mistake happens as it can only happen after that point. I save often so I can go back to where it is messed up.
 
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Is there a guide anywhere for what the various points point you towards? There's a lot going on here, so I'm not sure what choices are leading where.
 
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Is there a guide anywhere for what the various points point you towards? There's a lot going on here, so I'm not sure what choices are leading where.
Not really but I don't think it urgently needs a walkthrough either.
Just save before choices that seem major because they probably are.
Also don't forget that you can roll back several slides with the mouse wheel.
For everything else there are some mods on page 99 of this thread.
 
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And nope, you seem to not understand what I said, the randomness factor is what I wanted (and is hinted that one take more time than the other), the choice is not about being nice or nicer, and you can't really say that somebody is a psychopathe when he already go buy you cloth, just because he didn't bring food with it... And I do want a few things hidden, like I said.
I say this as someone who hates "sex with homeless/etc." scenes in corruption games, and I certainly don't want to see a sex scene with Bobo even though I know it's going to be a possibility, but you're not reading your own writing correctly. She callously abandons him. You're thinking that we can get all the way to the "take more time" choice before losing the scene with William, but once we know it exists our playing interest is to abandon Bobo much earlier. To completely dismiss Bobo and make him the cops' problem. That's callous, vs. the version of Myriam that actually wants to help him. You're working from the assumption that we're going to push the Bobo scene as far as we can and then go have sex with William. But how could we possibly know that that's a possibility? If I've looked at the mod's gallery, and prefer a scene with William to a non-scene with Bobo, I'm going to bail on Bobo as soon as possible so I can get William. That's not kind, and it requires me to make Myriam an uncaring asshole so that she can fuck her young, huge-dicked neighbor. I don't see any narrative setup-reward in that, I just see arbitrary bifurcation without narrative justification.

Dude, it’s pretty simple to not miss scenes just make saves at any branching choices & pick what you want her to do then when you get to end of update go back and pick the other choices
"Dude," that's not gameplay. That's save-spamming. As someone who likes to see all the content I do it a lot, but it's actually an indicator of a poorly designed game. In this case, it's paired with a well-designed mod, so I can see all the scenes. A properly designed game would give me hints about what I was missing, give me realistic scenes in which (say) tending to Bobo was making me miss a planned rendezvous (platonic or otherwise) with William, etc., and tell me that. Games with gallery mods show me what I've missed, and of course I use them. But a well-designed game has already told me that I'm missing things.
 

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Hey Zorlan i am doing a playthrough of both incest and beastiality and want to do all the options with the higher score needs but i don't want anthony in the picture is there a way i can get enough points to do that without anthony being around. help please my myriam doesn't put up with being being dominated or abused by Anthony. please help
 

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I say this as someone who hates "sex with homeless/etc." scenes in corruption games, and I certainly don't want to see a sex scene with Bobo even though I know it's going to be a possibility, but you're not reading your own writing correctly. She callously abandons him. You're thinking that we can get all the way to the "take more time" choice before losing the scene with William, but once we know it exists our playing interest is to abandon Bobo much earlier. To completely dismiss Bobo and make him the cops' problem. That's callous, vs. the version of Myriam that actually wants to help him. You're working from the assumption that we're going to push the Bobo scene as far as we can and then go have sex with William. But how could we possibly know that that's a possibility? If I've looked at the mod's gallery, and prefer a scene with William to a non-scene with Bobo, I'm going to bail on Bobo as soon as possible so I can get William. That's not kind, and it requires me to make Myriam an uncaring asshole so that she can fuck her young, huge-dicked neighbor. I don't see any narrative setup-reward in that, I just see arbitrary bifurcation without narrative justification.
I don't know if you're trolling at that point... It seems we just don't understand each other, I'm sorry you don't see my point, so I'm just going to stop arguing here, you don't like the way I did that scene, well, too bad, sorry, but it won't change.

I hope you will enjoy the rest of the game, but I'm done justifying myself on that subject.
Hey Zorlan i am doing a playthrough of both incest and beastiality and want to do all the options with the higher score needs but i don't want anthony in the picture is there a way i can get enough points to do that without anthony being around. help please my myriam doesn't put up with being being dominated or abused by Anthony. please help
Yes you can have all the fun without having to stay with Anthony (though having the cum stat high without the shower scene from the motel and the abuse of Anthony at the motel can be hard, but pass that, you can kick him out without much concern).
 

dian091

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Perhaps you end up with sex with Bobo either way. Either as his friend sooner than later, OR, if you bail on him he ends up in police custody and at some point, you know Myriam is going to have her two boys in blue (or more) maybe she ends up in a jail cell that she shares with Bobo and since she bailed on him, it's rougher sex than had she been his friend in the alley.
 

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"Dude," that's not gameplay. That's save-spamming. As someone who likes to see all the content I do it a lot, but it's actually an indicator of a poorly designed game. In this case, it's paired with a well-designed mod, so I can see all the scenes. A properly designed game would give me hints about what I was missing, give me realistic scenes in which (say) tending to Bobo was making me miss a planned rendezvous (platonic or otherwise) with William, etc., and tell me that. Games with gallery mods show me what I've missed, and of course I use them. But a well-designed game has already told me that I'm missing things.
This is so wrong. Have you never played Fallout? Elder Scrolls? CRPG games like Divinity Original Sin 2? Most of the time when you do things a certain way it doesn't tell you what you missed if you did it another way. That's for you to find out on your next playthrough or if you reload a save to see what happens. That doesn't make it a bad design. Is Mass Effect a badly designed game? Is Dragon Age?

You're complaining because you're missing out and you want to know what you could've gotten if you chose a different path. That's a YOU problem. Because it seems like you'd enjoy kinetic novels/linear games a lot more.

It's not bad design, it's a feature.
 
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