VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.02+p] [Zorlun]

[Seanthiar]

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For gears: You need an ubermachine, yes you can do with crap, but it will quickly shot your motivation when you realize how limited you are by your computer.
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No, the only thing that needs ressources is rendering - but that is the only thing that doesn't need you to sit in front of it while it's working. It's one of the skills you need - organizing and planning your work to be effective. The rest works on any Windows PC with 8GB RAM. With less on Linux. And even with render - your render take time with a slower PC but you learn to be effective, like rendering background and chars separate. Scene Optimizer and camera optimizer with DAZ are some nice tools to make your render to need less VRAM. Some assets available for DAZ are absolute idiotic. For example there is a pen(!) with a 4k resolution - no problem to reduce that to 512 and still have great details. Or a scene with no close up of the char don't need the char with 8k - 1k could be enough. Or why highres nipples when the char s clothed ? Important is RAM and a CPU with many threads - 16gb RAM are minimum, better are more than 32GB. I have robbed a second PC of 16GB and now have 48GB, but I'm searching for a cheap 64GB RAM set to get 96GB in my main system. My GPU is an old GTX750ti and it works, because DAZ use the CPU to render if you don't have enough VRAM, but enough RAM. I made a 30s. 720p animation in the DAZ Skill thread and it took 23h to render (30s a 30frames = 900 render) with my Ryzen7 1700. And about CPU - I prefer Ryzen above Intel and an old Ryzen 1700 with 16threads is more helpful than a 10th gen i7 with 12threads. Need 70W less power with 4 more threads and if you have a system running 5h for one render that is important. You can even restrict DAZ using all threads. You can say use 12 threads and use the left 4 threads to use still an editor like Atom (I use pspad because it got more options, it's faster and need less memory) to code and/or run Ren'py or surf the web.
If you let your PC render when you are not using it you don't need to babysit your PC for rendering and while sleeping or working it doesn't matter if the render take 12h or 5h and if you use a batch render tool you can let your PC do more than one render when you are sleeping and at work. For example you work 8h and sleep 8h. Maybe go to bed at 10pm and let the PC start render. Sleep, goto school/work and be able to do something again in the evening. That is enough time for your PC to render.

 

[oyemiperro]

Hey folks. I have a question. Purely hypothetical what is needed to make a high quality VN? What equipment and what are the costs in the beginning if I don't have a good computer? And of course, how important are computer skills? I will be grateful for your response. And I hope you understand my English.

Well, Zorlun is a first time developer with no previous experience and look at him now. I think that more than a computer, rendering skills etc etc, the main thing is a f'kn amazing story... As an example, in the early days my fav developers were Lesson Of Passion, with their game "Living with Temptation: Wife Gone Wilder" which to me will always be a masterpiece (my avatar clearly says that), but nothing lasts forever and Leonizer and his team got obsessed with rendering and high end computers, leaving, in my opinion, good stories aside.
As I see things, technology will always be changing, faster computers, better renders, lighter images, more realistic scenery and lighting, so the game will look old at a certain moment, but, with an AMAZING story things are different, I'm not saying it will never get old, but it will be remembered and its commercial death will come much later. Better to focus on creating an amazing universe revolving around sex while you slowly learn programming and rendering, or associate with someone who knows, that lets you focus on developing the characters in depth, while another person gives life to those ideas.
I have also been with that idea in my head, and what I see is that when you develop the story will catch up on your "deving" process and that is when your fanbase is the one finishing the story, or you end up giving it a crappy ending... I feel that happened with "Dreams of Desire" by Lewdlab, I loved the story until certain point, and with their new story they focused a lot on rendering but the characters were notas well designed as in the previous one... And character design is not always dependent on what machine do you have, but how the characters have a personality, feelings and a coherence on what they do and say.
Just my two cents... Hope you manage to develop an amazing game for all of us to enjoy, just like we are doing with this one Zorlun is creating.

 

[Zorlun]

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If you let your PC render when you are not using it you don't need to babysit your PC for rendering and while sleeping or working it doesn't matter if the render take 12h or 5h and if you use a batch render tool you can let your PC do more than one render when you are sleeping and at work. For example you work 8h and sleep 8h. Maybe go to bed at 10pm and let the PC start render. Sleep, goto school/work and be able to do something again in the evening. That is enough time for your PC to render.

Well, to each his own I think, but for myself, since I'm working all day on the game and doing around a dozen of renders a day, I can't go with 5-12h renders, so yes, depending on your time management, you can go with crap gear and go with it, but you will have to wait a few months to do any substantial update, which in my case (in my own personal opinion) is not acceptable, since people support me and send me money every month, I feel it's the least I can do to give them something every month (but again, just my personal feeling).

 

[DIRTY Filthy RAT]

In games where the female protagonist is played, are there always weird muscular guys and ugly old men? I notice it's normal now.

was wondering how you were able to get 3 banners on your signature, when i tried it said 2 was the maximum

 

[Qmil679]

was wondering how you were able to get 3 banners on your signature, when i tried it said 2 was the maximum

Donor.

 

[Ed Hardy_32]

Thank you very much to everyone who decided to answer my questions. I really appreciate that.

 

[Seanthiar]

Zorlun You can work on diff. renders a day without problem and won't need to wait for a full render to finish. Just testrender with low res and max frames under 500 to fix positions, composition etc and use a batch render with the real parameters for the time you sleep - For example

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There is even a batch render that restarts DAZ to free the memory after a render.

 

[fortuna95]

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News - Next Update - Project Myriam ch2.04


Hello there, Myriam has done all her scenes for this update and is getting some well deserved rest before working on the next one!

This time two scenes only again, but they are both quite big (300+ renders, so biggest update so far) with lots of subscenes in it (like for exemple the dream of the coach that could have been in itself a scene on its own). Lots of branching depending on previous choices on the first scene, the second one being more like before an introduction on a few line of events revolving around the stables and Myriam's horse, Hammer.

Now I'm on the polishing and testing phase for the update, that should take a day or two.

The problem now is that the last thunderstorm that hit my home fried my internet box, I'm making due with my phone connection for now, but I'm not sure that I'll be able to upload the game with it (it's pretty unstable).

I'll keep you posted about the evolution, I should receive some replacement material, but don't know when for now. And if I'm unable to upload the game via my phone connection, I'll go use a friend's internet connection, so don't worry too much.

 

[Seanthiar]

Thankfully it was only your internet router. Should be an easy replacement. Take your time. I was hit but mother nature last week myself. My MB was fried when the power came back after the power was killed by the floods in our area. Using my tablet atm, waiting for a new MB and hoping CPU,GPU and RAM wasn't damaged. Hopefully insurance will pay.

 

[DIRTY Filthy RAT]

Thankfully it was only your internet router. Should be an easy replacement. Take your time. I was hit but mother nature last week myself. My MB was fried when the power came back after the power was killed by the floods in our area. Using my tablet atm, waiting for a new MB and hoping CPU,GPU and RAM wasn't damaged. Hopefully insurance will pay.

Good luck

 

[Zorlun]

Hello there, guess I'm too good, and even thunder can't stop me from sharing the new version of Project Myriam - Life and Explorations.

So... I guess enjoy it!?

What is new:

• - Around 3800+ lines of code and 310 new renders.
• - 2 scenes (2 big scenes with multiple subscenes, 1 with consequences of previous choices and 1 introducing new event lines).
• - 3 new characters introduced (and a 4 others brushed over).
• - Lots of minor choices to make Myriam more your own.
• - Some more naughty content.

Up and loaded for my Enthusiast tiers and up patrons on Patreon and SubscribeStar and the Free Public version will be up on August 2! So patience my Zorlunites, the "Divine One" will soon be yours!

 

[Latex224]

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Hello there, guess I'm too good, and even thunder can't stop me from sharing the new version of Project Myriam - Life and Explorations.

So... I guess enjoy it!?

What is new:

• - Around 3800+ lines of code and 310 new renders.
• - 2 scenes (2 big scenes with multiple subscenes, 1 with consequences of previous choices and 1 introducing new event lines).
• - 3 new characters introduced (and a 4 others brushed over).
• - Lots of minor choices to make Myriam more your own.
• - Some more naughty content.

Up and loaded for my Enthusiast tiers and up patrons on Patreon and SubscribeStar and the Free Public version will be up on August 2! So patience my Zorlunites, the "Divine One" will soon be yours!

Congratz with the new update my friend.
Looking forward to meet Myriam again and to see what "obstacles" she might face.

 

[Qixoni]

Looking forward. This update looks even more promising than the last. It´s like One Piece, despite how many years it´s going, each episode and arc it´s better than the one before surpringly.

 

[utkarsh123he]

anyone who has played the update?

 

[Ondodoher]

Easy with the new characters Zorlun You're full of imagination but don't loose us on too many people

 

[Loxyas]

Mmm, I'm salivating like the Pavlov's dog right now... I may or may not be howling in anticipation as well.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

View attachment 1319966
Hello there, guess I'm too good, and even thunder can't stop me from sharing the new version of Project Myriam - Life and Explorations.

So... I guess enjoy it!?

What is new:

• - Around 3800+ lines of code and 310 new renders.
• - 2 scenes (2 big scenes with multiple subscenes, 1 with consequences of previous choices and 1 introducing new event lines).
• - 3 new characters introduced (and a 4 others brushed over).
• - Lots of minor choices to make Myriam more your own.
• - Some more naughty content.

Up and loaded for my Enthusiast tiers and up patrons on Patreon and SubscribeStar and the Free Public version will be up on August 2! So patience my Zorlunites, the "Divine One" will soon be yours!

Praise be the Divine One ; I can't wait to meet Myriam again and make her go through the....er.... most platonic and pure of events.

 

[Zorlun]

Easy with the new characters Zorlun You're full of imagination but don't loose us on too many people

And I'm not done yet! ^^
But joke aside, I have still a few plot lines to introduce, next update it will be the model road (involving mode, photoshoots and movies and could evolve in the extremes choices towards some porn) and after there is still the church road (involving kind of shrink road but with bad influence, social work with difficult youth, old people and street hobos and could evolve in the extremes of Myriam entering a dark and corrupted sex order ^^) and there is the dating apps road (with a series of dating characters that Myriam could date, ranging from really bad to not so good).
This three are the main still missing, but there is still other plots that's coming with other characters and also a few already just brushed over but that kind off need some more work to start, like the swinging spa, the mystery club, the school, the neighbors, the russian mafia/police line, the sport activities... kind of a lot. ^^

Like I said before, I didn't envisioned my world like typical romcom with the main character and his/her 4 or 5 romanceable partners, I wanted a big world with lots to do and experience. I understand it feels kind of scary when you see the number of things waiting for Myriam, but it's also kind of motivating to me. ^^
It's not a big main story with a big vilain, but more of a day to day slice of life revolving around that sweet heroin Myriam, you follow her in her daily life and adventures and guide her through adversity into a bright future or more into a darker one (with lots of sex involved because "why the fuck not!?" ^^).

 

[Xill]

And I'm not done yet! ^^
But joke aside, I have still a few plot lines to introduce, next update it will be the model road (involving mode, photoshoots and movies and could evolve in the extremes choices towards some porn)

Oh my god this is getting better and better.

 

[lgac1492]

And I'm not done yet! ^^
But joke aside, I have still a few plot lines to introduce, next update it will be the model road (involving mode, photoshoots and movies and could evolve in the extremes choices towards some porn) and after there is still the church road (involving kind of shrink road but with bad influence, social work with difficult youth, old people and street hobos and could evolve in the extremes of Myriam entering a dark and corrupted sex order ^^) and there is the dating apps road (with a series of dating characters that Myriam could date, ranging from really bad to not so good).
This three are the main still missing, but there is still other plots that's coming with other characters and also a few already just brushed over but that kind off need some more work to start, like the swinging spa, the mystery club, the school, the neighbors, the russian mafia/police line, the sport activities... kind of a lot. ^^

Like I said before, I didn't envisioned my world like typical romcom with the main character and his/her 4 or 5 romanceable partners, I wanted a big world with lots to do and experience. I understand it feels kind of scary when you see the number of things waiting for Myriam, but it's also kind of motivating to me. ^^
It's not a big main story with a big vilain, but more of a day to day slice of life revolving around that sweet heroin Myriam, you follow her in her daily life and adventures and guide her through adversity into a bright future or more into a darker one (with lots of sex involved because "why the fuck not!?" ^^).

Brilliant! It's really exciting what the future holds for Myriam. In particular, that church road. I hope that this path will also bring us a character like a corrupt priest or bishop. I know it's twisted, but I love those hypocritical characters who give sermons while sexually harassing.
But I'm also interested in her past. Maybe a session with the psychiatrist will bring us a flashback with a traumatic event? Something relating to her father or grandfather?