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Spfjolietjake

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I get your point about reality.

But Zorlun spent some time and energy in trying to develop the characters in a way that, if one accept one or two things, is coherent and somehow realistic (I don't consider the aliens or the pharaoh, because those are only for people like me ;-) who chose to see them, and are not really part of the storyline), it would be a pity if he now throws it to the wind just to add up a sex scene or two - especially considering he already had to abandon and change something he had worked to develop as scenario, due to Patreon.

Even more, if you think that he has already created a lot of possible situations to have (group) sex, including in the setting you were looking for, e.g. the bullies in the underpass give a group; the art students another group (already happened, but it is not guaranteed that Myriam will hold a grudge or feel too ashamed and never want to talk with them again if they happen to get in contact or meet her and/or Eve, it depends on Zorlun and I guess the player choices); the basketball team; the gymnastics team (I say myself it is excluded, but there are ways in which it would be possible, even with Stella's implication, without betraying the idea that Myriam and William have a soft/romantic liaison); the kids at the horse riding/river are another group; she is potentially going to help the elder which means potentially individuals but even group (again, it depends on Zorlun and maybe the user choices, maybe there is even the possibility of zero sexual content; the spa club (depending on the kind of situations in which she gets, or Eve get her, and how she reacts).

It would risk to be maybe a bit too much if all of these became group sex stuff, but that depends on the choices of the player and Zorlun.
I'm cool with whatever he makes honestly, scene wise. My only point is reality shouldn't be a roadblock for any content he wants to include because to me the surreal adds to this vn's charm...
 

Power Broker

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so a public gangbang at a pep rally wouldn't cost her Job
Well, the last two updates were focused on gangbangs and for me and probably others, scenes like these are just boring. Drowning Myriam in cum is not really interesting, there was nothing exciting there.

Also, as suggested, not losing her job when she banged a bunch of her students, just so some horny players can get their gangbang scene 322, is ridiculous. There are already hundreds of games out there with nothing but nonsensical sex scene after sex scene that went this way and turned into a boring mess of bad porn tropes.

I hope we will see less gangbang scenes in the future and more one-on-one or FFM scenes with good tension and some better narrative development towards these scenes.

reality shouldn't be a roadblock for any content
Good content adheres to the reality of its own world, not to the cravings for specific kinks.
 

Zorlun

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Well, the last two updates were focused on gangbangs and for me and probably others, scenes like these are just boring. Drowning Myriam in cum is not really interesting, there was nothing exciting there.

Also, as suggested, not losing her job when she banged a bunch of her students, just so some horny players can get their gangbang scene 322, is ridiculous. There are already hundreds of games out there with nothing but nonsensical sex scene after sex scene that went this way and turned into a boring mess of bad porn tropes.

I hope we will see less gangbang scenes in the future and more one-on-one or FFM scenes with good tension and some better narrative development towards these scenes.

Good content adheres to the reality of its own world, not to the cravings for specific kinks.
Well, must have missed all those games, didn't knew that group sex was on the boring side. ^^

But yeah, if there will be some more group sex definitely, there will not be only that for sure either, this update has a foursome scene FFMM and the opening window for some "golden" play, after that the following updates we'll get more "personal" again.
In the end, for me, whatever the case is, each naughty scene must be brought for a reason, can't argue that some may seemed futile to some, but no point in arguing logic, we all think differently, I've set a character, a world and try to stay in the logic of them, so if we can consider I'm kind of "closish" to reality, my goal is to mainly to stay close to the "line" I've created in this microcosm.

And I would say mostly, there is really no need to argue over it, well at least not seriously, what I want is people to have fun with the game and Myriam's adventures.
 

Lara Snow

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Well, must have missed all those games, didn't knew that group sex was on the boring side. ^^

But yeah, if there will be some more group sex definitely, there will not be only that for sure either, this update has a foursome scene FFMM and the opening window for some "golden" play, after that the following updates we'll get more "personal" again.
In the end, for me, whatever the case is, each naughty scene must be brought for a reason, can't argue that some may seemed futile to some, but no point in arguing logic, we all think differently, I've set a character, a world and try to stay in the logic of them, so if we can consider I'm kind of "closish" to reality, my goal is to mainly to stay close to the "line" I've created in this microcosm.

And I would say mostly, there is really no need to argue over it, well at least not seriously, what I want is people to have fun with the game and Myriam's adventures.
May I ask if we are gonna meet the famous pornstar that looks like her? I've been intrigued for that plotline but I don't know if it's not yet implemented or if I failed to unlock it myself.
 

Spfjolietjake

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Well, the last two updates were focused on gangbangs and for me and probably others, scenes like these are just boring. Drowning Myriam in cum is not really interesting, there was nothing exciting there.

Also, as suggested, not losing her job when she banged a bunch of her students, just so some horny players can get their gangbang scene 322, is ridiculous. There are already hundreds of games out there with nothing but nonsensical sex scene after sex scene that went this way and turned into a boring mess of bad porn tropes.

I hope we will see less gangbang scenes in the future and more one-on-one or FFM scenes with good tension and some better narrative development towards these scenes.

Good content adheres to the reality of its own world, not to the cravings for specific kinks.
I don't know if you are a bit slow or trolling. Taking my words out of context. I never asked for more group scenes and have stated more than once I'm down for whatever Zorlun comes up with.

as for the second point your opinion of good content and others vary... reality would have prevented the alien scene and the Egyptian freak scene so fuck your reality over kink bullshit argument

Just my opinion :)
Well, must have missed all those games, didn't knew that group sex was on the boring side. ^^

But yeah, if there will be some more group sex definitely, there will not be only that for sure either, this update has a foursome scene FFMM and the opening window for some "golden" play, after that the following updates we'll get more "personal" again.
In the end, for me, whatever the case is, each naughty scene must be brought for a reason, can't argue that some may seemed futile to some, but no point in arguing logic, we all think differently, I've set a character, a world and try to stay in the logic of them, so if we can consider I'm kind of "closish" to reality, my goal is to mainly to stay close to the "line" I've created in this microcosm.

And I would say mostly, there is really no need to argue over it, well at least not seriously, what I want is people to have fun with the game and Myriam's adventures.
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:love:

I hope that happens but regardless thanks for this vn and may this new year be nothing but good things for you:)
 

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If google translate don't get me wrong, it's as you wish, either you wait for the public release on January 1st 2022, when I will share it here as well as on Patreon, SubscribeStar and my Discord server; or if you want it right now, you can support me on one of my higher tiers (Enthusiast and above) on Patreon or SubscribeStar to have access to the early release.
I don't know if you are a bit slow or trolling. Taking my words out of context. I never asked for more group scenes and have stated more than once I'm down for whatever Zorlun comes up with.

as for the second point your opinion of good content and others vary... reality would have prevented the alien scene and the Egyptian freak scene so fuck your reality over kink bullshit argument

Just my opinion :)


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:love:

I hope that happens but regardless thanks for this vn and may this new year be nothing but good things for you:)
You're welcome. ^^
 

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Merry Xmas 2021!

Myriam decided this year to offer Santa a little bit more than milk and cookies for all his trouble, and is waiting for her Xmas present at the North Pole hotel!

But she wanted to wish you a Naughty Xmas to you all and thank you again for all your support, and if you came by the hotel too, she'll be happy to jingle some bells! xoxo
 

Swordsman83

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Am I the only one who finds the wife/mother looks so alike from another AVN ?
 

Zorlun

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Am I the only one who finds the wife/mother looks so alike from another AVN ?
Possible that out there, there is a model looking like Myriam, but she's definitely an original model, first because I modelled her to be close to a real person, and second because I wanted to avoid just that, having a main character that has already been seen time and time again.
 

Zorlun

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Is there any point playing the good wife ?
Well I would say it depends on you and what you want to see, and of course what you mean by "good wife", since the game offer you quickly the occasion to kick out the asshole she has for partner, and knowing that the point of the game is to guide Myriam through her exploration of her new found freedom and her desires, once free from her companion.
 

Akhen101

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So what if you play the game as the "good wife". You have to kick the husband out of the house. What if you want him back? Will there be a route for that?
 
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Well, I may be hated by some for not sharing, but it seems something I had mentioned to the people interested in a way, patch or something else to keep for the future the incest in (like me :)), is happening sooner rather than later.

With what Anthony does at the start of chapter 3 there is no way you can keep the incest with Marc in.

After that, it seem there is only way in which it could be possible to have in future Marc back in the history, though to be seen how much keeping to try doing some "naughty activities" that were especially interesting for some players (whether as dominant or sub):

1) For the people with the incest in mind, modifying a bit the text description at start of chapter 3, so as to change, or make more ambiguous, any reference to the idea of Marc not being also Myriam's son;

2) The "no incest" game making in future a reference to Myriam, through her father's lawyers, managing to have the court consider Anthony as unfit as parent, losing parternal authority on Marc, with her asking and obtaining from the court of being legal tutor for Marc (it would be stretched, but not completely far-fetched), which would bring Marc back in the home;

2a) In a version more brutal in some aspects, less maybe convoluted in others, Myriam giving some money to Anthony so he does not make opposition to her request of becoming legal tutor for Marc;

3) I am a bit playing on the words like many lawyers :p :), but being legal tutor is not "adoption", e.g. children who are taken away from their parents can be placed in temporary houses, which can be a kind of institution but also a family and are effectively legal custodians of the kids, but they are not their parents (unless they also adopt them);

4) Point 3) means that at that point, in the "no incest", Marc would be living with Myriam and Katherine, would be under the authority/responsibility of Myriam, but would not bring back any mother/son relation, not even step-mother, so it may be enough to keep Patreon happy even if stuff happens with Marc (though would also avoid the bullshit "tenant" stuff :));

5) The variable incest would still refer to that type of situations (so, no change in the programming and variables till now, and can still use the values from past saves), and if there is again the confession and stuff like that, she could refer to the fact of being "like a mother for him", "responsible for him" etc.

6) In the "incest is back" version, aside what indicated in point 1), for point 2) the text could be modified so that it is more a matter of custody over the children and Myriam getting back her son, and for points 4) and 5), the text would be modified so that anything happening between Myriam and Marc, is effectively happening between mother and son, and referenced to in that way even to e.g. the priest.


Before anybody asks, the above is not something I asked about to Zorlun, nor I intend to - he already had to get in too many exchanges about this.

Anyway, it seemed Marc was out, then even after Patron intervention there was a reference to future content with Marc, now I don't know, but without content, no way anybody can put back any incest in story.

Also, remember the two rules of thumb:
1) Zorlun does not object to modifications of the kind I suggested, but if you do them, do them for yourself on your hard disk, no distribution, he is doing the game, the story and the pictures, and needs to live off it;
2) The above means modifying the files with the text, so, it is done at your risk and peril, do a backup of the original file, or use an editor that does it automatically for you, when doing the modifications, so if renpy complains, you can go back (don't rely only on the "rollback" function of renpy).

Hope this is useful for somebody :)
 
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