DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Happy July 14th! Free the Boobs Version!
A little shout-out to all her French fans, Myriam is up in arms and ready to do her part for the next revolution as 'Liberty Leading the People' was! xoxo
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I hope she uses that guillotine on her asshole husband
 

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Happy July 14th! Free the Boobs Version!
A little shout-out to all her French fans, Myriam is up in arms and ready to do her part for the next revolution as 'Liberty Leading the People' was! xoxo
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I hope she uses that guillotine on her asshole husband
Je suis Myriam, j'ai laissé mon chien et mon cheval me baiser dans le cul!

My french is terrible but it's supposed to say "I am Myriam, I let my dog and horse fuck me in the ass!"
 

Zara Scarlet

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Not asking Zorlun for slutty Katherine will never get us slutty Katherine, but asking him might. It's a tiny, tiny probability, but it's still greater than zero.
It just seems to me, he's made it pretty clear he doesn't want to go that route. But I was referring specifically to slutty content between Katherine and Myriam. It may be that Katherine eventually becomes more slutty, it just won't be incestuous. That would have to be patched anyway.
 
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awesome update, esp the horse riding and helping that "agent" or whomever. i wonder if there would be different scenes if that sorry ass hubby was still around..as i've never used walk-through for this other than mod that give certain points. anyway, keep it juicy, prolly hottest milf ever you got here lol.
 

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awesome update, esp the horse riding and helping that "agent" or whomever. i wonder if there would be different scenes if that sorry ass hubby was still around..as i've never used walk-through for this other than mod that give certain points. anyway, keep it juicy, prolly hottest milf ever you got here lol.
The boyfriend/husband is kicked out in all routes a couple updates ago.
 

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oh ok i see, i just picked him to get out as soon as there was a choice lol so i don't know how long he was around.
 

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The boyfriend/husband is kicked out in all routes a couple updates ago.
Not entirely. Remember when Myriam finally ditched him, there was a choice blacked out, that would allow her to take a very different path. Zorlun says that will be added later in the game. I assume because it will include spoilers for events that have not yet happened.
 

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Not entirely. Remember when Myriam finally ditched him, there was a choice blacked out, that would allow her to take a very different path. Zorlun says that will be added later in the game. I assume because it will include spoilers for events that have not yet happened.
Well, that is his ending if I remember correctly, so I was not including it for that reason. I believe Zorlun debated on added it right away, but I think his patreons wanted him to continue and do it later.
 

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I too am disappointed Zorlun has no interest in taking the game in that direction... but at a certain point you gotta just let it go and write your own porn, if nobody else is providing you with the content you crave.
I get your point if incest is a big thing for you. For me, it's not a big part of why I like this game. I followed the Marc incest path in the early part of the game, but I wasn't that disappointed when Zorlun had to change everything. And even when the patch became available, I decided to stay with him just being Anthony's son. Because from Myriam's perspective he is her son, because she brought him up. Regardless of the legal position, Marc will always be her son. So looking at it from her point of view, what they're doing is still taboo.

With Katherine I just don't see how it would happen. With Marc it's because she's submissive, and he takes advantage of that. Katherine is not that kind of person, so how would it ever happen? Do you honestly believe Myriam would initiate it with Katherine?
 
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As far as I'm aware, French is the only language where 'a kiss' and 'to fuck' is the same word. I think there's a lesson there for all of us, but damned if I can figure it out.
There was no proper verb so a euphemism was used. More euphemisms appeared later; younger generations commonly use the phrase sortir avec quelqu'un "to go out with someone" with the meaning of "to have sexual intercourse with someone". The only lesson I can think of is that people generally have difficulty to talk about such things.
 

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Als we Zorlun niet om sletterige Katherine vragen, krijgen we nooit sletterige Katherine, maar hem vragen misschien. Het is een kleine, kleine kans, maar het is nog steeds groter dan nul.
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Happy July 14th! Free the Boobs Version!
A little shout-out to all her French fans, Myriam is up in arms and ready to do her part for the next revolution as 'Liberty Leading the People' was! xoxo
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I hope she uses that guillotine on her asshole husband
Really cool
 

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I get your point if incest is a big thing for you. For me, it's not a big part of why I like this game. I followed the Marc incest path in the early part of the game, but I wasn't that disappointed when Zorlun had to change everything. And even when the patch became available, I decided to stay with him just being Anthony's son. Because from Myriam's perspective he is her son, because she brought him up. Regardless of the legal position, Marc will always be her son. So looking at it from her point of view, what they're doing is still taboo.

With Katherine I just don't see how it would happen. With Marc it's because she's submissive, and he takes advantage of that. Katherine is not that kind of person, so how would it ever happen? Do you honestly believe Myriam would initiate it with Katherine?
Well, since you asked, here's what I would do if, for some bizzare reason, Zorlun both decided to change their mind on Katherine and also consult me on how to do it. Which is a scenario that will not happen in a million years, but since you asked, I'll write the fanfic:

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Well, since you asked, here's what I would do if, for some bizzare reason, Zorlun both decided to change their mind on Katherine and also consult me on how to do it. Which is a scenario that will not happen in a million years, but since you asked, I'll write the fanfic:

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The second scenario wouldn't work. Because Katherine would just simply make him stop. As Myriam has done every time, if you allow her too. Cassius only manages to get his way, because Myriam tends to be very submissive, and thus she gives way very easily. But Katherine isn't a very submissive person, and therefore Cassius wouldn't get his way.

There's only one realistic way, that Myriam and Katherine could have sex together, and that's if they have personality transplants. They'd have to become completely different people
 

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but I'm not holding my breath for it, Zorlun doesn't seem to wanna actually do anything with Myriam's dom stats.
I don't think it's realistic to expect a woman who was completely submissive to her boyfriend for years, to suddenly transform into a dominant character in just a few months, if at all. I think there's plenty of evidence that Myriam is becoming more self confident and unwilling to be just a doormat anymore. So I disagree, I think he will use it eventually, it's just not going to happen overnight.
 

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The second scenario wouldn't work. Because Katherine would just simply make him stop. As Myriam has done every time, if you allow her too. Cassius only manages to get his way, because Myriam tends to be very submissive, and thus she gives way very easily. But Katherine isn't a very submissive person, and therefore Cassius wouldn't get his way.

There's only one realistic way, that Myriam and Katherine could have sex together, and that's if they have personality transplants. They'd have to become completely different people
How much screentime has Kat actually got? What can we confidently say about her personality? Based on what we've actually seen, we can pretty much only say that she's sexually inexperienced (even her sexuality is up for the player to choose). How would she actually react if she were put into that situation? I think there's plenty of room for things to go in a lot of different directions.

(But don't think about it too hard, it's just my bad fanfiction that I wrote.)

I don't think it's realistic to expect a woman who was completely submissive to her boyfriend for years, to suddenly transform into a dominant character in just a few months, if at all. I think there's plenty of evidence that Myriam is becoming more self confident and unwilling to be just a doormat anymore. So I disagree, I think he will use it eventually, it's just not going to happen overnight.
I don't mean to be condescending here, but here's a very basic thing about how stories work: Audiences come into a story expecting to be delivered promises that the writer makes to them. Some of these promises are delivered directly by advertising, some of which are delivered by events in the story itself, and some of which the audience brings with them due to genre expectations. This is why so many people ask about when there's gonna be Katherine content and are surprised when the answer is "no", because the erotica genre, especially WEGs, have the basic audience expectation that if a character related to the protagonist is introduced on screen, there's the implicit promise that there's gonna be incest with that character later. You'll notice that in games where there isn't gonna be any incest, the main character's family is usually nowhere to be seen. And it's not like incest or lesbian content is off the table in this game either.

And in games, some of those promises are delivered by the mechanics and the UI. In this case, if there's a stat the game tracks as you make choices, that implicitly promises to the player "Hey, this number is gonna be important, there's gonna be a choice later where you need this number to be high enough to get to make it."

Zorlun has talked about this in the past and says their philosophy is to add every stat they can think of, in case they think of a use for that stat later, without having to go back and modify earlier parts of the game (and force to to start the game over). And that's understandable, especially while the game is in an incomplete state, but it *is* very weird there's all these affection stats for characters who show up once and are never heard from again, as well as kink and personality stats that don't actually do anything.

tl;dr My response to your point of "She's been a submissive her entire life, why would she change personalities" is "The existence of the Domination stat implies Myriam has the potential to become a femdom."
 
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Preview Scene - Chapter 3 - Looking for Bobo
Next scene is mainly separated in two parts, first at home with William and Katherine and the second at the hospital with Bobo, which will go differently depending on previous choices.
First part is a quick sub scene to set up the rest of the day, with Katherine going to her friend Jenny to keep working on their event, while Myriam and William go for the hospital to respectively go see Bobo and William's mother.
Second part, after William went to see his mother, is about Myriam and Bobo, which could go a very differently depending on the player's choices previously, either Bobo stayed at the hospital or left, forcing her to look around for him (or not, depending on Myriam's choice).
There will be the possibility for some naughty action again between Myriam and Bobo, if she finds him, still on the same theme than before, with Myriam feeling some compassion for him and wanting to do something nice for him.
The scene will be fairly simple, but will let the player see that his choices can have consequences.


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I don't think it's realistic to expect a woman who was completely submissive to her boyfriend for years, to suddenly transform into a dominant character in just a few months, if at all. I think there's plenty of evidence that Myriam is becoming more self confident and unwilling to be just a doormat anymore. So I disagree, I think he will use it eventually, it's just not going to happen overnight.
After a couple dates with her new lesbian Egyptian friend she might learn how to be more dominant, who knows, well see
 

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How much screentime has Kat actually got? What can we confidently say about her personality? Based on what we've actually seen, we can pretty much only say that she's sexually inexperienced (even her sexuality is up for the player to choose). How would she actually react if she were put into that situation? I think there's plenty of room for things to go in a lot of different directions.

(But don't think about it too hard, it's just my bad fanfiction that I wrote.)



I don't mean to be condescending here, but here's a very basic thing about how stories work: Audiences come into a story expecting to be delivered promises that the writer makes to them. Some of these promises are delivered directly by advertising, some of which are delivered by events in the story itself, and some of which the audience brings with them due to genre expectations. This is why so many people ask about when there's gonna be Katherine content and are surprised when the answer is "no", because the erotica genre, especially WEGs, have the basic audience expectation that if a character related to the protagonist is introduced on screen, there's the implicit promise that there's gonna be incest with that character later. You'll notice that in games where there isn't gonna be any incest, the main character's family is usually nowhere to be seen. And it's not like incest or lesbian content is off the table in this game either.

And in games, some of those promises are delivered by the mechanics and the UI. In this case, if there's a stat the game tracks as you make choices, that implicitly promises to the player "Hey, this number is gonna be important, there's gonna be a choice later where you need this number to be high enough to get to make it."

Zorlun has talked about this in the past and says their philosophy is to add every stat they can think of, in case they think of a use for that stat later, without having to go back and modify earlier parts of the game (and force to to start the game over). And that's understandable, especially while the game is in an incomplete state, but it *is* very weird there's all these affection stats for characters who show up once and are never heard from again, as well as kink and personality stats that don't actually do anything.

tl;dr My response to your point of "She's been a submissive her entire life, why would she change personalities" is "The existence of the Domination stat implies Myriam has the potential to become a femdom."
I don't really want to weight on the debate here, but I think I should address a few things.

As stated in my previous message, the game is very experimental for me, it being my first game, so there is a lot of things that I learn as I go along, and I already see some things I would have made differently, and will do next game.

For example the 'love' stat for a few characters is not about love at all, but just here to gauge the will for some to help her or not, for some I put a stat but will probably never use them, since as characters pile up as well as story lines, I prefer concentrating on some putting some others aside, but most should have their use, it's just a question of time.
On the stats subject, a lot of time I also prefer put some in advance for use later on, even if I'm not sure to use them, because it's far more simple to add something from start and not use it than the opposite, it's way more complicated (or annoying) to add a stat (or a variable) back earlier in game because now I need it (the reason why some times I make everyone restart the game or roll back, which nobody like doing).

For the characters, be it small or big roles, they are all only here to play or emphasis on one of Myriam's side of her personality or some times to be a stepping stone (like Anthony who was one of her first ordeal and step to freedom), which is one of the reason I don't want to go too deep into naughty scene of other characters like Katherine for example (it can happen, but it will generally have a parallel to Myriam later on), the game will always be about Myriam.

For Katherine, I keep repeating myself again and again, but she has a very important role with Myriam, true filial love, Myriam and Katherine are everything to each other, and whatever happen in life, they know they can count and the love and support of the other and this is meant to be one of the constant of the game, one of the anchor of happiness and stability in Myriam's life. So, NO CORRUPTION!
BUT, that doesn't mean no naughty business, as stated a few times as well, there is in the book a little triangular action between Myriam, Katherine and William, that I had in mind (I want to do something as well with Jenny, but it will be more complicated to bring on, but will happen depending on the choice made for Katherine's sexuality).

I would add as well, that it's not because a way of doing things happen in other games that it should or will happen the same way in my game, after all if I made my own game is in the main part because I wasn't happy with how things were going even in the games I liked... I'm not doing my own thing to do like the others, no point in that (in my eyes), which is one of the big reason I didn't touch any adult game since I started mine, I don't want to be influence more than I was already.
Of course, that doesn't make my ideas or choices better than other developers, but even if I make bad choices, I need to make them to see and understand why, we're coming back to the experimental side of the game, if I want to learn, I need to do my own thing to learn and get better, by trial and error.

But it's becoming a wall of text, I'll stop the monologue here. ^^
I just hope it can help clarify some questions on how I do things or think.
 
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