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I believe that Myriam can still get with William later on, even if she helps Bobo. If I'm not mistaken, helping Bobo just cuts off the earlier content with William. After his mother goes into the hospital, I think there's a second chance.
I'd have to look at the game code to make sure but every playthrough where I help Bobo and miss that initial William scene, all of his content is inaccessible forever more.
It's a bit of both: You can still get some content with William, but it will be significantly reduced.

And you don't have to skip helping Bobo entirely, just don't be too long helping him. It's finding some food for Bobo that blocks off most of William's content, if memory serves.
 

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The problem is these restrictions are demanded by paypal and other payment processors. Creating a new platform without agreeing to this censorship means said processors will refuse to work with you. And it's a simple fact of the market that most people, if they encounter a site that won't let them make a payment in the usual way, will simply not bother rather than work out a compatible payment method. This is the basic idea behind subscribestar: We'll make a censorship-free platform for porn artists, and just accept the cost of turning away many customers due to not having the payment processor they're used to. (And in some countries it's literally not possible to use the alternatives that Substar accepts legally.) Though I do think it would be better for such a platform to be controlled by the artists directly in a sort of worker-owned cooperative rather than by a corporation.

Zorlun could have abandoned patreon to go substar-only instead but that would have required leaving a huge portion of his income on the table, most of his patreon patrons would simply stop subscribing rather than switch over to substar.

(And you could say, "well, why don't we start our own payment processor" but that's a lot harder than it sounds, national governments take anything that facilitates the international transfer of money *dead* seriously and operating everywhere means you have to give in to the contradictory demands of a hundred different states. And you still run into the problem substar does where most people will simply refuse to use your service rather than use anything other than paypal.)

Thanks for clearing that up. It seems Subscribestar is the best of a crazy sitch. I can imagine how frustrating it is for you guys because just reading about the madness frustrates me. I appreciate yours, Zorlun's and all the other honorable artists and creators out there. I will give my support monetarily when I can and moral support always. Thanks again for your honesty and patience.
 

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Don't help Bobo (the homeless guy at the start) and you will have a chance with a relationship with William instead.

There's variations on some scenes depending on whether you are submissive or dominant as well (like with Mark).

I have several different saves for different routes.
I believe that Myriam can still get with William later on, even if she helps Bobo. If I'm not mistaken, helping Bobo just cuts off the earlier content with William. After his mother goes into the hospital, I think there's a second chance.
I'd have to look at the game code to make sure but every playthrough where I help Bobo and miss that initial William scene, all of his content is inaccessible forever more.
It's a bit of both: You can still get some content with William, but it will be significantly reduced.

And you don't have to skip helping Bobo entirely, just don't be too long helping him. It's finding some food for Bobo that blocks off most of William's content, if memory serves.
You can help Bobo, you just need to be fast about it, JUST go for clothes and you will see William in front of the house, but if you go for clothes AND food, you'll take too long and miss him.
 
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I'd have to look at the game code to make sure but every playthrough where I help Bobo and miss that initial William scene, all of his content is inaccessible forever more.
You can help Bobo, you just need to be fast about it, JUST go for clothes and you will see William in front of the house, but if you go for clothes AND food, you'll take too long and miss him.
I opted to have Myriam take longer with Bobo, knowing that it would cut off Williams earlier content. But she was still able to have sex with him, after his mother went to the hospital. I don't remember cheating any of the tags, so I think that there's a second chance with William.
 

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I opted to have Myriam take longer with Bobo, knowing that it would cut off Williams earlier content. But she was still able to have sex with him, after his mother went to the hospital. I don't remember cheating any of the tags, so I think that there's a second chance with William.
Think it cuts off a couple of choices, but not certain, shower scene at school with William and the church scene in the car with William instead of Marc, but that could get cut off if Marc is the dom as well I think. Did get the William car scene a couple of times, but mostly it ends up being Marc.
 

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Can't remember if this has been answered yet or not, but when Myriam found Bobo ill, wasn't there a choice when she was sat in the car if she wanted to spend some time doing certain things helping out in the community, is that ever going to be implemented?
 

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Can't remember if this has been answered yet or not, but when Myriam found Bobo ill, wasn't there a choice when she was sat in the car if she wanted to spend some time doing certain things helping out in the community, is that ever going to be implemented?
Yes. IIRC the old folks home was actually supposed to happen in chapter 3 but it was cut and pushed forward due to graphics card trouble.
 

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Yes. IIRC the old folks home was actually supposed to happen in chapter 3 but it was cut and pushed forward due to graphics card trouble.

fuck yeah, that's the arc that I've been waiting for. Though I really want it to be like a tease (atleast have an arc where the emphasis and tension is built up)
 
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Yes. IIRC the old folks home was actually supposed to happen in chapter 3 but it was cut and pushed forward due to graphics card trouble.
The old folks home? What is she going to give them sponge baths and change their catheters or they going to be popping viagra from a pez dispenser and just stay rock hard for her until their hearts give out?
 
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xapican

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Just started playing, for a first playthrough which route is better, independent or stay in marriage?
It depends on what you are In to, for me is Idependent better, if you for humilation and abuse stay married there are some Hardcore hot scenes down that road (Hotwifing,etc)
 
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DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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It depends on what you are In to, for me is Idependent better, if you for humilation and abuse stay married there are some Hardcore hot scenes down that road (Hotwifing,etc)
Gangbang with his coworkers but you can also get a gangbang with college boys on independent route, just make a lot of saves for the different choices screen
 
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The old folks home? What is she going to give them sponge baths and change their catheters or they going to be popping viagra from a pez dispenser and just stay rock hard for her until their hearts give out?
Maybe both? There's something appealing about a hot MILF nurse who also gives her patients sexual favors... though personally I'd prefer it if it weren't old dudes.
 
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You can help Bobo, you just need to be fast about it, JUST go for clothes and you will see William in front of the house, but if you go for clothes AND food, you'll take too long and miss him.
Nice!!! I'll have to try this now... just got done a few different route playthroughs. I hated not being able to help him. (y)
 
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Night Hacker

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Just started playing, for a first playthrough which route is better, independent or stay in marriage?
Both are fine. I done a route where she is submissive and stays with him and he still fools around on her and she ultimately dumps him anyhow, so you're good either way.
 
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