VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.08a+p] [Zorlun]

[JaxMan]

I strongly disagree. Mark should continue to be verbally abusive to Myriam, because it's what they both enjoy.



Why would he need to use sugar? She feels gratified by doing his every bidding, regardless. It's the being submissive and being dominated which makes her feel gratified. There's no need for him to sweet talk her.

Personally, I think that's just playing Marc as Anthony. Might as well have kept Anthony in the game. Also, that route looks like a bad ending because of that. Imagine Katherine finally finding out, which she eventually would, Marc is treating her Mom just like Anthony who she detested. No good would come of that.

Nothing says being a dom means treating the sub as a piece of shit, though some do, but really Marc shouldn't or he just becomes another Anthony.

Just my opinion.

 

[Krysis_here]

I think only Cassius Boy is strong enough to Discipline Marc, He will make sure not to get Turned into Mini Anthony, He will make him Submissive of him and teach him some Good Manners on how to treat Myriam as He has seen How Anthony treats Myriam. Right? " Bark a Day keeps Marc's Naughtiness away or A Bite a Day keeps Marc turning into Mini Anthony Away " Lol , But Cassius is Sweet heart he will Tease Marc and then leave him and manner his sexual desires

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[TheLecher]

Personally, I think that's just playing Marc as Anthony.

Anthony doesn't care about Myriam, and Marc does. Furthermore, Anthony doesn't care about Myriam's consent, and Marc does. Therefore, Marc is not like Anthony in the ways that matter. If he treats Myriam in a way which is superficially similar to how Anthony treated her, but does it with her consent and they both enjoy it, then there's no problem.

The problem with Anthony wasn't that he talked down to Myriam, or even that he smacked her. It was that he did those things without any regard for how she felt and whether or not she consented.

Also, that route looks like a bad ending because of that.

I don't recall Zorlun ever saying that the "Marc dom" route would lead to a bad ending. Unless he's said that, we don't know how that path might end.

Imagine Katherine finally finding out, which she eventually would, Marc is treating her Mom just like Anthony who she detested. No good would come of that.

First, it's not a certainty that Katherine will ever find out about Myriam and Marc. Second, as already stated, Marc is not treating Myriam just like Anthony did. If Katherine found out about Myriam and Marc, and she could be persuaded to accept that the two of them have a sexual relationship of any kind, then she could be persuaded to accept that they have a Dom/sub relationship.

Nothing says being a dom means treating the sub as a piece of shit, though some do, but really Marc shouldn't or he just becomes another Anthony.

Again, saying that Marc's current way of treating Myriam is the same as Anthony's, or that it's on the way to becoming the same as Anthony's, is a superficial view. In the ways that matter, Marc does not treat Myriam as Anthony did.

And I don't recall saying that being a dom means treating the sub as a piece of shit. But let's be clear that being a good dom does mean treating your sub harshly, if your sub likes and wants harsh treatment and doesn't like or want "nice" treatment. If you are a dom, and your sub doesn't want nice treatment, but you insist on treating them nicely, then you are a bad dom, just like you're a bad dom if you treat your sub harshly, regardless of your sub not wanting harsh treatment.

In BDSM and Dom/sub, it's important to remember that there is no formula which is the "right" formula. What matters is the rules, and the only real rules are:

1. No one is harmed. This does not mean that no one feels pain. It means that no harm is done which would constitute an injury.
2. All parties are freely consenting to everything that is done. This also requires all parties to be capable of freely giving meaningful consent.
3. Each party is concerned with the welfare and satisfaction of all other parties.

As long as those three rules are kept, each couple or group can decide all of the other rules for that couple or group. And what works for one couple or group may not work for another. Consenting adults may decide for themselves.

 

[TangoVA]

with new update i cant see some scene:

(during talk with doctor), if u choose "bestiality" the error is:

"image 'bg ch5_02 findingyourself 038' not found
"image 'bg ch5_02 findingyourself 039' not found
"image 'bg ch5_02 findingyourself 040' not found

other scene works fine

edit:

same on the couch with Cassius:

"Image 'bg ch5_03 peacefulnighthome 008' not found
...
"Image 'bg ch5_03 peacefulnighthome 027' not found

Did you get an answer to this?

 

[JaxMan]

Anthony doesn't care about Myriam, and Marc does. Furthermore, Anthony doesn't care about Myriam's consent, and Marc does. Therefore, Marc is not like Anthony in the ways that matter. If he treats Myriam in a way which is superficially similar to how Anthony treated her, but does it with her consent and they both enjoy it, then there's no problem.

The problem with Anthony wasn't that he talked down to Myriam, or even that he smacked her. It was that he did those things without any regard for how she felt and whether or not she consented.



I don't recall Zorlun ever saying that the "Marc dom" route would lead to a bad ending. Unless he's said that, we don't know how that path might end.



First, it's not a certainty that Katherine will ever find out about Myriam and Marc. Second, as already stated, Marc is not treating Myriam just like Anthony did. If Katherine found out about Myriam and Marc, and she could be persuaded to accept that the two of them have a sexual relationship of any kind, then she could be persuaded to accept that they have a Dom/sub relationship.



Again, saying that Marc's current way of treating Myriam is the same as Anthony's, or that it's on the way to becoming the same as Anthony's, is a superficial view. In the ways that matter, Marc does not treat Myriam as Anthony did.

And I don't recall saying that being a dom means treating the sub as a piece of shit. But let's be clear that being a good dom does mean treating your sub harshly, if your sub likes and wants harsh treatment and doesn't like or want "nice" treatment. If you are a dom, and your sub doesn't want nice treatment, but you insist on treating them nicely, then you are a bad dom, just like you're a bad dom if you treat your sub harshly, regardless of your sub not wanting harsh treatment.

In BDSM and Dom/sub, it's important to remember that there is no formula which is the "right" formula. What matters is the rules, and the only real rules are:

1. No one is harmed. This does not mean that no one feels pain. It means that no harm is done which would constitute an injury.
2. All parties are freely consenting to everything that is done. This also requires all parties to be capable of freely giving meaningful consent.
3. Each party is concerned with the welfare and satisfaction of all other parties.

As long as those three rules are kept, each couple or group can decide all of the other rules for that couple or group. And what works for one couple or group may not work for another. Consenting adults may decide for themselves.

Well, you sound like an experience dom so I'll accept what you say about the lifestyle. In my perspective I just don't see that Marc fits that, he has neither the maturity or experience. Marc appears to be concerned only with his own gratification. Maybe I've missed or don't remember scenes where they both consented verbally to their particular dom/sub relationship.

Also, I don't really see Myriam consenting so much as agreeing and those aren't necessarily the same. A woman can be raped and agrees to what the rapist tells her to do, but she still was raped. Myriam, from my perspective indulges Marc to not "hurt" or "traumatize" him, probably because of her more submissive nature and wanting to please people. I seemed to remember her always questioning why she was indulging Marc and don't remember her actually submitting to Marc to be her master. Again, I may have missed that as I have played the dom Marc route maybe halfway through as he doesn't appeal to me as a character.

Oh, I never said it was a bad ending, just my view that if there were a bad endings I could see that as one. I know Zorlun hasn't commented on any of the endings so not sure why you bring it up.

I do appreciate your perspective. thanks for sharing.

 

[Leongen43]

Because I don't add Aliens to her fantasies. I understand that she doesn't remember the moment, but she could have had a fantasy about having sex with aliens. If it happened again, would Myriam remember what happened and if she consumes too much Alien cream, what will be the consequence?

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[Isidoro]

Did you get an answer to this?

yep... only yours xD

 

[TangoVA]

yep... only yours xD

I've been messaging Zorlun this afternoon. So far, they continue to think it's a bad download. I've pulled down copies from their Patreon and their Discord - in both un/compressed formats - and all are missing those files. Looking for a further response atm.

 

[Zorlun]

I've been messaging Zorlun this afternoon. So far, they continue to think it's a bad download. I've pulled down copies from their Patreon and their Discord - in both un/compressed formats - and all are missing those files. Looking for a further response atm.

Again, this files are in the patch! You won't see them in the image folder.
If you have downloaded the game anywhere but Patreon (which do not have Prometheus' patch) you will have the patch and all the beasty content.

99% of the time it's the use of a mod not up to date that causes conflict and break the path to the patch file.

 

[Mr.Music]

You are clearly manipulating just his downloads, while allowing the rest of us to all the files.

Be a good dev now.

 

[xapican]

with new update i cant see some scene:

I've been messaging Zorlun this afternoon. So far, they continue to think it's a bad download. I've pulled down copies from their Patreon and their Discord - in both un/compressed formats - and all are missing those files. Looking for a further response atm.

You must be registered to see the links

, or download from his subscribestar the patreon version is the "nutter" version without that content.
As for the codifiacation,:
edit: I posted the Gofile link but all the others are the same or take SOL comprssd ver.

 

[olynix]

hermesh will there be a walkthrough update?

 

[GeppettoPossum]

Yes, it was more about character development for Katherine, showing of some of her passionate heart for her hobbies, I just feared a bit that the way I used to do it could ruffled some feathers as it's a sensitive subject for some. ^^

That scene did stick out as strange to me. It really did seem like you had to get that off your chest for some reason or another. I wouldn't really call it "politics," but it still seemed out of place to me.

 

[DiggerArm]

Hey folks, I restarted playing the game, but some webp images from Antony's dinner are missing in the current version (bg ch2_22 anthonysdinner 108.webp to 113). Where can I find them, please?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Hey folks, I restarted playing the game, but some webp images from Antony's dinner are missing in the current version (bg ch2_22 anthonysdinner 108.webp to 113). Where can I find them, please?

these are the images of the prometheus patch, you need to download the game with the patch built in

 

[T4t0rt]

Quick question: there will a chance, in the next updates, to introduce other girls to bestiality kink?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Quick question: there will a chance, in the next updates, to introduce other girls to bestiality kink?

NO

 

[DiggerArm]

these are the images of the prometheus patch, you need to download the game with the patch built in

Thanks for this indication. Where may I find this prometheus patched version?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Thanks for this indication. Where may I find this prometheus patched version?

as in all games, on the front page. check that there is +p in the download name

 

[DiggerArm]

as in all games, on the front page. check that there is +p in the download name

Thanks but those files :
bg ch2_22 anthonysdinner 108.webp to 113
bg ch3_03 whatfutureholds 029.webp to 040
bg ch3_04 anotherdayatschool 005.webp to 012
aren't in the a+p version. Those are for the bestiailty images. And the Promoteus patch indicated in several comments are nowhere to be found so far, asfter searching those since yesterday.

Merci pour cet excellent jeux Zorlun.