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Question about Incestral Awakening and Rule 7

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Mark600601

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murder - ok
rape - ok
bestiality - ok
incest - ok
torture/guro - ok
loli/shota - burn in hell you evil bastard!!!!!!!!

not hypocritical bullshit at all. are you going to go full jack thompson and say anyone who plays a shota/loli game is a pedo/turns into a pedo?
No. Nobody is saying any of this by any means.
Whether or not this games are ok to play is really up a persons own moral code.
But child pornography is a HUGE no no. In pretty much every country. Even the US doesnt care about incest games or beastiality games so long as its not performed in real life. Child pornography is not accepted in ANY format. Whether it be fictional or not.
By allowing any and all loli/shota content on here we will attract every single pedo/creep out there which in turn will cause goverments to check this foroum and the moment they saw the amount of loli/shota content the forum would immideatly be written up as soliticing child pornorgraphy.
Do you really want not only this forum to get shut down but for governments to harass every single user on here on the off chance they might be a pedo? Cuz I sure as hell dont
 
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Sylaidara

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If you want updates and latest builds on the game I usually check out /hgg/ on 8chan.
There is a thread about it and you can find other things you can't find here as well.
I don't think i'm allowed to link it but check it out.
 
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styggtuff12

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No. Nobody is saying any of this by any means.
Whether or not this games are ok to play is really up a persons own moral code.
But child pornography is a HUGE no no. In pretty much every country. Even the US doesnt care about incest games or beastiality games so long as its not performed in real life. Child pornography is not accepted in ANY format. Whether it be fictional or not.
By allowing any and all loli/shota content on here we will attract every single pedo/creep out there which in turn will cause goverments to check this foroum and the moment they saw the amount of loli/shota content the forum would immideatly be written up as soliticing child pornorgraphy.
Do you really want not only this forum to get shut down but for governments to harass every single user on here on the off chance they might be a pedo? Cuz I sure as hell dont
they're cartoon, not kids. its as much pedophilia as DBZ is snuff.
if its a cartoon/animation then no one is hurt, no one is involved, why would that be considered **********? can't people tell the difference between cartoon and real life?
 

Mark600601

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they're cartoon, not kids. its as much pedophilia as DBZ is snuff.
if its a cartoon/animation then no one is hurt, no one is involved, why would that be considered **********? can't people tell the difference between cartoon and real life?
It doesnt matter what you I or the mods think. All that matters is what the government thinks. By supplying loli shota content we run risk of attaracting the pedophile community.
and if that happens best case scenario the government steps in to make sure no1 on this site has any real child pornography and worst case scenario the pedophile community ends up taking over and this actually ends up becoming a hub for pedos to communicate and share IRL child pornography.

Again this rule may suck but considering what could potentially happen if that rule isnt in place it simply isnt worth it
 
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All i'm saying is that if you want to enforce the rule, then enforce it.

Don't give us these half assed straw grasp arguments whenever asked why you have clearly underaged people depcited in games on this site.

Urban Demons/AZL/UrbanXLife etc all have a shota protagonist. One is not only a kid in appearance, but even moreso mentally (doesn't know anything about sex, masturbation, ejaculation etc) and is frequently referred to as a child. Shit, in Urban Demons every single MILF outright says "I can't have sex with this kid, what is wrong with me!" and stuff along those lines. UrbanXLife has a legit loli molestation scene in the park.

Nobody is able to provide an argument as to why those games are allowed and others aren't and that gives an illusion of favouritism, double standards and "it's popular so its ok!" type discrepancies.

TL;DR - I couldn't give two shits about WHAT rules this website has. The issue I have is the consistency in the enforcement of said rules.
 

Malkav

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Why do these creators even make games of 6 year olds fucking milfs. Who is the audience?

You are obviously focusing on the woman being fucked, so why make the guy underage if it will only get your game marked as containing underage characters. Even though all the women are older.

It is not like the little boy is getting fucked by other men, which would make him the focus. He is having sex with women, and the audience are experiencing HIS thrills of fucking women vicariously, not the thrill of fucking a 6 year old boy.

Or are the games made for horny women who wants to rape little boys? I don't think so.
 
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muttdoggy

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You are all entitled to your opinions. I respect that.
We wrote the rule as best we could with input from F95 and all the mods. The overriding MOTIVATION behind Rule 7 is to prevent toddlercon and young loli/shota from being posted because of the nastiness that follows that content.
We tried to be fair and balanced so we made a compromise that we felt made sense. The trouble is- that compromise is what created the issue with clarifying the rule. Again, we really tried to define it, to be fair, and to protect all of us.
We even have a way for someone to say "I disagree" and we DO take it into consideration. We do discuss that. But remind yourselves of WHY we did this. Remember WHY we made the rule.
Again, our decisions are for the best of the site and are FINAL.
 

Fishnchipz

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I'm not advocating for rule 7 to be removed, I think it's a necessary rule and if I want my loli content I'll just go to somewhere like sadpanda, but I do think that if games like IA are banned then Urban Demons and AZL should be banned as well. It's clear as day that they're kids and the game continuously hammers that notion in; it's undeniable.

EDIT: In fact, Urban Demons is tagged as "shotacon" in the OP, this surely violates the rules correct?
 
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Fishnchipz

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Why do these creators even make games of 6 year olds fucking milfs. Who is the audience?

You are obviously focusing on the woman being fucked, so why make the guy underage if it will only get your game marked as containing underage characters. Even though all the women are older.

It is not like the little boy is getting fucked by other men, which would make him the focus. He is having sex with women, and the audience are experiencing HIS thrills of fucking women vicariously, not the thrill of fucking a 6 year old boy.

Or are the games made for horny women who wants to rape little boys? I don't think so.
Typically they try to aim for men who self-insert as the little boy, usually out of a subconscious mother complex.
 

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why would that be considered **********?
Who the fuck is saying it's **********? We don't want to see that, the owner doesn't want to see that and we don't want this to become a trend. Don't like it? Leave.
 

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All i'm saying is that if you want to enforce the rule, then enforce it. ... Urban Demons/AZL/UrbanXLife ...
TL;DR:
It is the way a forum works, I can confirm. A point comes to change things as they are, but there is also a direction we are heading towards (have to, sometimes). This is why we got 'regulations', to keep us safe on the way. Rest assured those will not alter too much. Some content is to stay other stuff has to get wiped though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Hope you and others do comprehend this whole situation. Better safe than sorry, for a reason.
 

Fed

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You are all entitled to your opinions. I respect that.
We wrote the rule as best we could with input from F95 and all the mods. The overriding MOTIVATION behind Rule 7 is to prevent toddlercon and young loli/shota from being posted because of the nastiness that follows that content.
We tried to be fair and balanced so we made a compromise that we felt made sense. The trouble is- that compromise is what created the issue with clarifying the rule. Again, we really tried to define it, to be fair, and to protect all of us.
We even have a way for someone to say "I disagree" and we DO take it into consideration. We do discuss that. But remind yourselves of WHY we did this. Remember WHY we made the rule.
Again, our decisions are for the best of the site and are FINAL.
Could you add in the fact that the rule mainly is to prevent toddlercon in the rule itself? I feel like that would solve a lot of the problems that people are having with the definition as it will give a clearer picture on what is banned.

If that is the case then I would say that some of the games that have been banned don't make sense, for example The Little Brave, the guy is clearly not a toddler.
 

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Could you add in the fact that the rule mainly is to prevent toddlercon in the rule itself? I feel like that would solve a lot of the problems that people are having with the definition as it will give a clearer picture on what is banned.

If that is the case then I would say that some of the games that have been banned don't make sense, for example The Little Brave, the guy is clearly not a toddler.
The Little Brave?? It shows a boy of about 9-12 years of age at the oldest with no pubes or sexual development. He's some kind of monster hunter because of some 'coming of age' thing.
Rule states "If the main focus of the game is sexual contact with realistic or semi-realistic character(s) who show no sign of puberty (ie prepubescent) then the game should not be shared."
He's got no sign of puberty and the game is about him 'coming of age' so he's both physically immature and mentally immature. Clear violation of the rule so it's not allowed.
We are sticking to the general idea that they must show signs of sexual development. Think 14 and OLDER. Or about high school age.
 

styggtuff12

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The Little Brave?? It shows a boy of about 9-12 years of age at the oldest with no pubes or sexual development. He's some kind of monster hunter because of some 'coming of age' thing.
Rule states "If the main focus of the game is sexual contact with realistic or semi-realistic character(s) who show no sign of puberty (ie prepubescent) then the game should not be shared."
He's got no sign of puberty and the game is about him 'coming of age' so he's both physically immature and mentally immature. Clear violation of the rule so it's not allowed.
We are sticking to the general idea that they must show signs of sexual development. Think 14 and OLDER. Or about high school age.
how is that diffrent from UD or AZL? because the MC has a big dick?
 

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Why would someone ask how many? o_O
This site shares hundreds of games so a supersmall fraction? A handful or two?
With more on the way because people keep complaining by saying "why didn't the mods keep this because that one's worse!" :(
So we take a look at these games that were so kindly pointed out...And they are now gone.
So to those of you complaining and comparing.. thank you!
You've added to the list! Keep complaining and we'll keep looking. :D
 

Zenathos815

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Dudes,
Having roots with a registrar there are rules that site owners have to follow in order to keep the content alive, like we get that this is a pretty deviant community and it refers to hundreds of things that are offensive but we are talking about the kind of thing that gets the attention of international internet authorities (I'm not going to mention the I word because their name is like voldemort or beetlejuice if you say the name they know:confounded:) and ultimately gets a site banned and the registrants possibly investigated. We get it you have your kicks and there is other places you can get them but it is within the right and to most authorities it is the responsibility of a site owner to monitor and moderate their content blocking this sort of thing in order to keep their domain and site alive. It seems hypocritical when you mention those other topics but there isn't the same sanctions and rules around them, you are essentially getting pissed that a liquor store/bar doesn't sell heroine.
 
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Why would someone ask how many? o_O
This site shares hundreds of games so a supersmall fraction? A handful or two?
With more on the way because people keep complaining by saying "why didn't the mods keep this because that one's worse!" :(
So we take a look at these games that were so kindly pointed out...And they are now gone.
So to those of you complaining and comparing.. thank you!
You've added to the list! Keep complaining and we'll keep looking. :D
curiosity , im not complaining im just asking how many ?
 

styggtuff12

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Dudes,
Having roots with a registrar there are rules that site owners have to follow in order to keep the content alive, like we get that this is a pretty deviant community and it refers to hundreds of things that are offensive but we are talking about the kind of thing that gets the attention of international internet authorities (I'm not going to mention the I word because their name is like voldemort or beetlejuice if you say the name they know:confounded:) and ultimately gets a site banned and the registrants possibly investigated. We get it you have your kicks and there is other places you can get them but it is within the right and to most authorities it is the responsibility of a site owner to monitor and moderate their content blocking this sort of thing in order to keep their domain and site alive. It seems hypocritical when you mention those other topics but there isn't the same sanctions and rules around them, you are essentially getting pissed that a liquor store/bar doesn't sell heroine.
1. theres already loli and shota games here so if you are so scared of the popo then delete all who even close to looking young
2. this is a site for sharing porn games, most of them aren't free. we are pirating them so its not like the site is innocent, its already a crime

if they are this scared of the cops then why the fuck would they even have the site?
 
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1. theres already loli and shota games here so if you are so scared of the popo then delete all who even close to looking young
2. this is a site for sharing porn games, most of them aren't free. we are pirating them so its not like the site is innocent, its already a crime

if they are this scared of the cops then why the fuck would they even have the site?
As the mods have said time and time again it's not just about the police.
 
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