Question about Rule 7

[Abere Lucifer Productions]

Okay, so my game 23 Sisters is completely batshit crazy. The sisters in the game will be giving birth soon and the daughters of the sisters will be growing into their teen years in about 5 days. Anyway, from what I've heard is that the girls cannot be prepubescentt. What if it is stated outright in-game that the girls have gone through puberty. I'll be doing this no matter what, but I'm wondering.

 

[WhitePhantom]

It's nothing to do with what they're stated as being.

It depends on what they look like...

You can't render a photorealistic pre-pubescent child and then just say "they've gone through puberty" to get away with it and pretend you're not producing cp? Wtf?

 

[Jofur]

Don't quote me on this, but I think the main thing is you can't have characters that look like children. Even if you do the old "2000 year old vampire loli" it would still be against the rules. If you make them look at least like older teenagers(and don't explicitly say their age) you are fine as far as I'm aware. Plenty of games here feature schoolgirls or characters from series that are canonically underage, and they seem to do just fine by simply ignoring their age and making sure they look like teenagers.

The rule says: "A 'prepubescent character' is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. ". My takeaway from that is: Don't make them look like children under any circumstance, no matter the story.

 

[Abere Lucifer Productions]

The Asian pornstar Kitty looks like she's 9, but was actually in her mid-20s when she started doing porn. I don't get it.

 

[EZ8lt]

It's nothing to do with what they're stated as being.

It depends on what they look like...

You can't render a photorealistic pre-pubescent child and then just say "they've gone through puberty" to get away with it and pretend you're not producing cp? Wtf?

There are who does tho, and easily get away with it.

Realistically, rule 7 being enforced comes mostly down to the fact whether you're liked by the mods or not.

Look at My New Memories for example, it uses a blatant obvious bullshit "she's 18" explanation to pre-pub girls, and it's allowed without a lewdpatcher version, because Killer is rather well liked around here. Kinda the same applied to Parental Love in Ada's case, who was no way in hell being an 18 year old. Then there was the Proud Father dude, who straight told them to fuck off when they asked him to make a lewdpatcher version for the loli content, and he got purged for good.

 

[Abere Lucifer Productions]

There are who does tho, and easily get away with it.

Realistically, rule 7 being enforced comes mostly down to the fact whether you're liked by the mods or not.

Look at My New Memories for example, it uses a blatant obvious bullshit "she's 18" explanation to pre-pub girls, and it's allowed without a lewdpatcher version, because Killer is rather well liked around here. Kinda the same applied to Parental Love in Ada's case, who was no way in hell being an 18 year old. Then there was the Proud Father dude, who straight told them to fuck off when they asked him to make a lewdpatcher version for the loli content, and he got purged for good.

Hmm. Maybe I could get away with it. I'm pretty much loved the mods. They allowed Daddy's Little Girls.

 

[Jofur]

The Asian pornstar Kitty looks like she's 9, but was actually in her mid-20s when she started doing porn. I don't get it.

She's a real human with a verifiable age. Not a drawing intended to look like a child. Even if it's not illegal it's more about the site owner(s) being on the safe side. It's mainly just a precaution since legally it's such a dangerous topic.

 

[WhitePhantom]

There are who does tho, and easily get away with it.

Realistically, rule 7 being enforced comes mostly down to the fact whether you're liked by the mods or not.

Look at My New Memories for example, it uses a blatant obvious bullshit "she's 18" explanation to pre-pub girls, and it's allowed without a lewdpatcher version, because Killer is rather well liked around here. Kinda the same applied to Parental Love in Ada's case, who was no way in hell being an 18 year old. Then there was the Proud Father dude, who straight told them to fuck off when they asked him to make a lewdpatcher version for the loli content, and he got purged for good.

Most girls are going through puberty by the age of about 10-12.
Those games don't have girls that look like 7-9 year old girls, they might be younger than a lot of people (myself included) would like, but they aren't "pre-pubescent", they look more early teens. Still too young imo, but it isn't "pre-pubescent". With some Japanese stuff, there's the argument it is stylised and not-real, I don't like that either, but at least it isn't replicating a real child.

This dude wants to render non-stylised, photorealistic girls who look pre-pubescent, so that means they look about 8/9 years old at the very maximum.

There's a word for people who think about having sex with girls that young.

 

[redknight00]

If you have to ask, it's probably getting banned.

And if you have a choice what happens next is all on you.

Then there was the Proud Father dude

He made us a censored version, but it was basically a demo and you had to pay for the actual game, in hindsight the whole case could be handled better since he still used his ban to score a massive amount of pedo bucks on SS, but whatever, we have no power to tell people to stop diddling virtual kids.

Look at My New Memories for example, it uses a blatant obvious bullshit "she's 18" explanation to pre-pub girls

We didn't get any report and flew under the radar, I'll check later, but since it's 0.1 I doubt there's any content.

 

[おい！]

If you have to ask, it's probably getting banned.

And if you have a choice what happens next is all on you.

He made us a censored version, but it was basically a demo and you had to pay for the actual game, in hindsight the whole case could be handled better since he still used his ban to score a massive amount of pedo bucks on SS, but whatever, we have no power to tell people to stop diddling virtual kids.


We didn't get any report and flew under the radar, I'll check later, but since it's 0.1 I doubt there's any content.

How about the uploaders who decide to share Rule 7 games? Does anything happen to them? For example "Oh Daddy" was shared on here today by an uploader who is former staff and has been doing it long enough to know what is and is not allowed on this site.

 

[Westy20]

He made us a censored version, but it was basically a demo and you had to pay for the actual game, in hindsight the whole case could be handled better since he still used his ban to score a massive amount of pedo bucks on SS, but whatever, we have no power to tell people to stop diddling virtual kids.

So it was never explained to me. Is that why the game was banned? Cause the censored version removed about 40% of the content? See the censored version didn't break rule 7 so I always wondered what other rule I must have broken...

 

[Agent HK47]

To put it simple and to the point: If it LOOKS like a child, no matter if she is a vampire, android or whatever you desire, it WILL get the site in trouble and thus it WILL get banned.
In the case of the asian pornstar mentioned above, while she looks underage, she is verifiably of legal age and there is nothing the government can go to stop her from posting pictures of herself online, and trust me, they would prefer she didn't.

If you really insist on doing this, then you need to make your base game free of any of this kind of content and make the questionable content accessible through a standalone patch, but you can't make that patch yourself. You'll need to ask your identical twin brother or smt, I dunno, you're a smart lad, you'll figure it out.

You need to remember that CP is highly illegal. It only takes 1 picture to possibly get the entire site shut down and the owners in deep sh*t, so you can't blame them for being very sensitive about the subject.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

There are who does tho, and easily get away with it.

Realistically, rule 7 being enforced comes mostly down to the fact whether you're liked by the mods or not.

Look at My New Memories for example, it uses a blatant obvious bullshit "she's 18" explanation to pre-pub girls, and it's allowed without a lewdpatcher version, because Killer is rather well liked around here. Kinda the same applied to Parental Love in Ada's case, who was no way in hell being an 18 year old. Then there was the Proud Father dude, who straight told them to fuck off when they asked him to make a lewdpatcher version for the loli content, and he got purged for good.

Uhm for what would killer need a patch yet? There is no sexual content for them.

 

[DearLegend37]

If you really insist on doing this, then you need to make your base game free of any of this kind of content and make the questionable content accessible through a standalone patch, but you can't make that patch yourself. You'll need to ask your identical twin brother or smt, I dunno, you're a smart lad, you'll figure it out.

It doens't matter in this case if he admits he's the one who made the patch, developers do that only to avoid problems with patreon, and this developer main platform is SS. What matters here is having a patch to avoid this site getting into trouble because of the content.

 

[apatheticcreative]

It's a fine line to walk. I had a thread some time back talking about walking that line. It got shut down. A few takeaways before that happened:

1 - If it's in doubt, they're probably too young.

2 - It is better for her or his age to be in doubt than for them to be obviously underaged, but it's still a risk.

3 - Canonical age doesn't matter at all. Only appearance.

4 - People seem more tolerant of highly stylized and cartoony young characters than they are of realistic looking ones.

So clearly 18 or older is fine, but the further you go back (visually) the riskier it gets, until there's just no doubt at all and you're on thin ice. Tread carefully.

 

[Jofur]

While on the subject I might as well try and get some confirmation. What is the rules surrounding smaller/petite fantasy characters? For example stuff like a Goblins, Imps or Gnomes? Is it okay if you give them some noticeable breasts/adult features?

 

[apatheticcreative]

While on the subject I might as well try and get some confirmation. What is the rules surrounding smaller/petite fantasy characters? For example stuff like a Goblins, Imps or Gnomes? Is it okay if you give them some noticeable breasts/adult features?

Canonical age doesn't matter, only appearance. So the fairy who looks like she is 9, but in reality is 340, for all intents and purposes, is 9.

When I had my thread up that got shut down, I did ask about furry characters. Would people be more tolerant of younger characters if they're less human? I never really got an answer, but I suspect they will, since people seem to get more tolerant of young characters the more stylized and less realistic they get. Still, I suspect it's a sliding scale. If you take an obviously underaged character and slap some horns on her, well, now she's an underaged character with horns. Add a tail, a pair of wings, cover her in feathers, add a beak... I suspect every step you take away from human might make the age less of an issue, but now your character is a mutant bird-person, so there's a balancing act there between human and "What in God's unholy name is that?!?"

 

[Jofur]

Canonical age doesn't matter, only appearance. So the fairy who looks like she is 9, but in reality is 340, for all intents and purposes, is 9.

Sorry I should have clarified. I meant exclusively smaller fantasy characters who still have an adult body. I.E, a goblin or hobbit that might be the height of a child, but still has a pair of knockers on her like an adult would. Think real life dwarfs and midgets, if that's not too offensive.

 

[apatheticcreative]

a goblin or hobbit that might be the height of a child, but still has a pair of knockers on her like an adult would.

This should be fine. Height hasn't been an issue in the past that I can tell. If she looks like an adult, it doesn't matter if she's 7 feet tall or 7 inches tall or anywhere in between.

 

[alfeatcat]

I don't understand all these sensitivities.
It is not a call for child abuse if someone writes a story in which not yet adult persons are seen performing sexual acts.
I know that many people think along these lines:
Lolita complex= pedophile = child fucker.
But it's not like that!
It's basically literature. So it's just fiction, fantasy, not real.
No children are harmed or traumatized!
If all incest/lolita acts were removed from the literature of mankind, some shelves in libraries would be empty.
As I said, these are stories in a porn fantasy and not real events!
There is no need for anyone to get excited as a moralizer.

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