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This Vidal. 100% with you.

Regardless of the pressure...if anyone here actually thinsk Allie is the type of person (given what we know and see of her) to go tits out in public like a dumb 18yo slut who's had a few jars too many, I'm really not sure what VN they are playing, they sure as hell are not paying attention..ohh pretty pictures...TITS...omfg....

They also have no idea about boundaries either....but hey..it was the hot dumb redhead pushing them so it's ok :rolleyes:
exactly she went from not being comfortable enough in a bikini

to being topless with a stranger that you just met

if you want her to be topless so bad work up to it

get her comfortable wearing a bikini or sexy outfit in one episode

and then when she decides to go topless it's around a trusted friend and there's no pressure

and that's if she decides to go topless at all
 
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exactly she went from not being comfortable enough in a bikini

to being topless with a stranger that you just met

if you want her to be topless so bad work up to it

get her comfortable wearing a bikini or sexy outfit in one episode

and then when she decides to go topless it's around a trusted friend and there's no pressure

and that's if she decides to go topless at all
I think you're looking at it backwards. You gotta read the text where they talk about it.
Things like how Allison won a wet T-shirt contest in Cancun, and how that version of Allison makes sense to Jasmine.
So it's not that Allison's against being topless and Jasmine convinces her otherwise, it's that Allison was always a little more daring, but after having a kid and losing her marriage, she's not as confident any more.
It's not Allison doing something she doesn't want to do, it's Allison getting back to her old self before she lost everything.
 

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Hey, anyone know how to get the extended Jasmine and Natalya scene this update? Can't seem to unlock it no matter what combination run throughs I try, including leaving Victoria behind or breaking up with her, etc....
 

Dessolos

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Just started this update and OMG I forgot how much I love Coop he always makes me laugh
 
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I think you're looking at it backwards. You gotta read the text where they talk about it.
Things like how Allison won a wet T-shirt contest in Cancun, and how that version of Allison makes sense to Jasmine.
So it's not that Allison's against being topless and Jasmine convinces her otherwise, it's that Allison was always a little more daring, but after having a kid and losing her marriage, she's not as confident any more.
It's not Allison doing something she doesn't want to do, it's Allison getting back to her old self before she lost everything.
maybe I don't know like I said if there was a line of dialogue about Jasmine said if you don't want to that's fine

or with a friend that she knows like I said it's how it's done
that is the problem but still no Reply
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I want to know if he sees my point of view or if staying inside will stop the scene from happening

and if I don't go outside would it negatively affect my Allison playthrough
 

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if anyone here actually thinsk Allie is the type of person (given what we know and see of her) to go tits out in public like a dumb 18yo slut who's had a few jars too many
Of course you just had to bring that loosely argument, actually expected even. So what you're saying is when Women IRL remove their Top out of the blue at a Pool they are straight up Sluts but if Men do they are Chads, delusional much. Good thing those Women are not even real in this Game. :WeSmart:
 

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Hey, anyone know how to get the extended Jasmine and Natalya scene this update? Can't seem to unlock it no matter what combination run throughs I try, including leaving Victoria behind or breaking up with her, etc....
don't get into a relationship with jasmine and you can watch that whole scene in the sauna.
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Dessolos

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Of course you just had to bring that loosely argument, actually expected even. So what you're saying is when Women IRL remove their Top out of the blue at a Pool they are straight up Sluts but if Men do they are Chads, delusional much. Good thing those Women are not even real in this Game. :WeSmart:
havent gotten to that scene yet but I mean it's still not in her character to go topless not in a private setting in fact id say it would be OUT of character.
 

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As for the update, it started well but I felt it petered out towards the end. Granted, I'm only playing a solo-Allison route which is clearly not the intended experience, but I was hoping for a more significant emotional connection with Allison in this episode. That doesn't really happen; the relationship is slowly mending and we can surprise Allison if we accept her advice, but overall the two are still dancing around the past (and the MC still leers at everything in sight no matter how hard I pull on the reins, which doesn't help). The closest we see to a genuine heart to heart winds up wasted when it's revealed Allison was already asleep. Instead we learn that Allison is feeling horny around the MC, which honestly feels like a regression after seeing her cook the MC dinner and letting him stay the night a couple updates ago. Maybe my tastes are just too eclectic, but as much as I adore the character I feel like her route - at least as I played it - doesn't flow very well.
I usually share your opinions mostly but this time i disagree. I think the development of the MC/Allie relationship is completly fine, we have to consider that just a few days passed at all since they really started to reconnect.

Allison being already asleep didnt really mattered imo in this case as both have already confirmed that they feel/felt like that, to other people and even to each other (at the ball for example), it was more about the MC realising it himself.

And i dont consider allison being aroused around the MC as character regression, she wasnt just eager for his cock, she is and was eager to share all these things together. Being the one who sits up front in deliah, being the one waking up in his arms and yeah of course being the one having sex with him. Its all part of the same thing: A life together.

Its kinda obvious that she never stopped wanting this and felt forced to divorce the MC, i think the possibility of the two of them breaking up simply never crossed her mind even when their relationship was bad.

And really the evening/night just after you had this future-deciding conference where you have been standing and talking all day long, isnt really the best time to have a deep emotional conversation about the past and future.

I think when being back home and esp after receiving the good information about lily's health is a way better opportunity for that.


I'm also still really confused by the MC lucking into a quarter million dollars at the end of the last update. Shouldn't that be a huge deal? Instead, he apparently tosses the money in a duffle bag and forgets about it. I guess the idea is that he needs even more money eventually so the business trip still has to be his top priority, but it's really weird that he didn't at least drop a big chunk of money off with Kalani before leaving. And with Lily healing well at the end of the update, it's not clear how much longer the treatments need to continue. The whole thing feels really incongruous IMHO.

I don't want to come off too negatively since I still like the game and enjoyed playing the update, but I felt like it ended on a very flat note. Maybe things would feel more cohesive if I played more of the other content? :unsure:

tl;dr Lots of awesome bits that don't fit well into a larger tapestry, but my experience may not be the best yardstick.
Its kind of the same like my answer to the first point but he got this money like 40 hours or something ago and had to prepare for the conference, there just wasnt really enough time (or at least its plausible that there may have not been time).

I think this will feels less confusing after the next episode is released and were playing it in one go.



Something else i not really noticed since i did a new playthrough just now, Allison started to wear her wedding ring again since the ball if the mc takes her with him which is kinda funny.

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If I had 1 euro for each time I saw real people go out of character in my nearly 50 yo of living I would be a rich man, including myself. We are human after all and not all the time predictable, and sometimes we do it for peer pressure or just for a "what the fuck, lets do it" moment. So I'll say it is perfectly normal that happens in fiction and in an AVN, it is also what gives it some spice and character development. If after that the character personality gives a turn or 180 degrees then yes it is bad writing, must be a somewhat slow change but usually done by moments like that.
 

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I think you're looking at it backwards. You gotta read the text where they talk about it.
Things like how Allison won a wet T-shirt contest in Cancun, and how that version of Allison makes sense to Jasmine.
So it's not that Allison's against being topless and Jasmine convinces her otherwise, it's that Allison was always a little more daring, but after having a kid and losing her marriage, she's not as confident any more.
It's not Allison doing something she doesn't want to do, it's Allison getting back to her old self before she lost everything.
Yeah i think this is it.

havent gotten to that scene yet but I mean it's still not in her character to go topless not in a private setting in fact id say it would be OUT of character.
I dont get that impression, we hear a lot of storys about the fun times Allison and MC had and about allie/mc/cooper/cammie shenigans in the past. They always seemed confident and adventerous.

There is nothing slutty about sunbathing topless at a pool with barely anyone around for like 30 minutes.

Some people are really blowing this out of proportion and behaving like allison gave a stripshow to a crowd of men wtf, its just some titties.

I mean is every women at a nude beach a slut too?

And imo it was believable displayed as Allison is a confident woman but as the other poster mentioned lost the confidence about her body since the divorce or birth or both. Jasmine was just rekindling a flame, she doesnt have the means to "pressure" a confident woman like allison into anything anyway, she just helped her to do what she wanted to to anyway.

And seems like Jasmine is helping Allison to do what she wants to do anyway with the mc too, best wingwoman ever :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah i think this is it.



I dont get that impression, we hear a lot of storys about the fun times Allison and MC had and about allie/mc/cooper/cammie shenigans in the past. They always seemed confident and adventerous.

There is nothing slutty about sunbathing topless at a pool with barely anyone around for like 30 minutes.

Some people are really blowing this out of character and behaving like allison gave a stripshow to a crowd of men wtf, its just some titties.

I mean is every women at a nude beach a slut too?

And imo it was believable displayed as Allison is a confident woman but as the other poster mentioned lost the confidence about her body since the divorce or birth or both. Jasmine was just rekindling a flame, she doesnt have the means to "pressure" a confident woman like allison into anything anyway, she just helped her to do what she wanted to to anyway.

And seems like Jasmine is helping Allison to do what she wants to do anyway with the mc too, best wingwoman ever :ROFLMAO:
i'll see when I get to that scene just going by a few things I read but so far it just feels like it would be out of character for me to what Allie is like now but not Allie of the past. To me it seems her confidence is shot and she comes across a little bit like a prude at times at least when around the MC. Since she hasn't accepted she still has feeling for him so tries to not look or do anything sexy or hot around him. At least that's how I see her character right now. But im playing the update slowly so maybe i'll change my mind after I see that scene.

I do agree people calling her a slut tho is overreaching nothing slutty about it. Hell I wouldn't even call Jasmine being a slut personally despite her being a little easy and showing her tits like it's nothing to the MC.
 
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it would be out of character for me to what Allie is like now but not Allie of the past.
This. She is also a high profile professional in her field who deals with a lot of important people, sponsors and grants and already been embarrassed at work once. People like that do not act like thay are 18 and the people they associate with sure as hell do not want to be known for associating with people like that. What she was like and did in her past is really quite irrelevent.

I do agree people calling her a slut tho is overreaching nothing slutty about it
Never called her a slut...I said acting like one and sorry, just cos Jas hot and a redhead doesn't exxcuse what she is and how she acts.

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As for the other comment from someone else...a pool party is usually in a private setting and property around people you know...if a woman goes to a random party, where she knows no one etc...and gets her tits out and starts partying...then yeah..sorry. Nothing wrong with being a slut either btw, they are a lot of fun..but they are what they are and Jas definitely is.

As for naked beaches, well, that's a dress code in many of them and on a nudist beach, also expected. Are some people really that desperate to try and defend their position they actually try and compare this crap?

lol...*shakes head*

Entire story just gone sideways by 2 counties...currently has more drift than his car.
 
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