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xXwankerXx

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You're just trying to justify a shitty decision, and it's not justifiable. Saying it's something that happens in real life is accurate, but also not justification.
Real people cheating is still wrong
*Heavy, depressing sigh* I wonder how many times do I have to specifically point out that I never condoned his or any real person's cheating, didn't mind her being upset for a while, not a few years, about it, and consider their reconciliation path should be a very slow burn, where Jake needs to put maximum effort to get her back, but still understood why he did it, more so since he only screwed up once after years of dissatisfaction with his marriage, he wasn't a serial cheater.

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I'm not defending or criticizing anyone here, just saying ppl screw up a lot and deserve to be forgiven IF they earn their forgiveness. If you consider MC and Allison constantly being at each other throats is what Lily needs, then, no offense, but you don't know what you talking about. It's not me saying this, reality, ppl with studies and reasonable parents do it.

That's why I think it's best for them to at least try to get along and co-parent parent Lily as best as they can after she wakes from her coma and for the MC to do everything he can to earn her forgiveness and prove that he's become a better man and potential husband on her romance path, for the players who want it.

why would it be unreasonable for Allie to hold a grudge here?
It isn't wrong or unheard of for someone to hold a grudge on their cheating ex, let's say, for a few months. I personally would've cheated back on her too and then moved on with another woman/other women, instead of whining so incessantly about it or trying to prevent my ex from coming to see her daughter and spend time with her just cuz I was so petty and stupid to think she won't be affected by our divorce, ffs.

In Allison's case, I'd find even a year a reasonable number, but 3 or 5 is plain ridiculous and downright embarrassing to hear from a grown ass, supposedly smart, independent career woman. It's like hearing a dude with a small dick constantly and passionately hate on women with big asses for only preferring big bois. Shit's funny asf, cringe and embarrassing at the same time, and after a while, it becomes annoying asf too.

I can ignore the lil dicked dude's lil pee-pee rants and leave him to do his butthurt troll thing, can't ignore Allison's constant bitching and victimizing tho. That's the real problem.:cautious:

I'm tapping out because there's no point continuing to rehash the same old argument.
Finally something we can all agree on, my keyboard was about to call the cops on me for domestic and verbal abuse lmao. I'm ready to tap out both literally and figuratively... should've done it way sooner, but let's just say something came up IRL, I felt a lil too lazy and had to pretend I was busy "working".:)(y)
 
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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
 

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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
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5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other. I think they both realised they were more friends or brother and sister, than in an actual marriage. Would have been completely reasonable to break up and find love again.
 

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5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other. I think they both realised they were more friends or brother and sister, than in an actual marriage. Would have been completely reasonable to break up and find love again.
That is true for the average person im just saying I could do it. Sex not important to me but the relationship and love is. But yeah the moment I realized there was no relationship left anymore or love. I would either of left , or tried to make things work and tough it out if I had fond memories and didn't want to let go because of that.
 

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Finally got to play the update, decided not to wait for the Steam release. What was up with Jasmine's hair color during the conference? It was a weird pink, but then back to normal in the sauna and later scenes. (Sad I couldn't solve the room mix-up by just staying with her though.)

I wonder when things are gonna start colliding. I sorta expected there to be some conflicts at the conference because I've been actively pursuing Jasmine while not being mean or anything to Allie. Avoided being more than friendly but always doing the best choice in anything regarding Lily, so it seems I'm on her path by her reactions. But there was never a point where I got to choose between them there. Plus back home there's Maggie.

As for the expiration date on a grudge discussion, my opinion is that there is no statute of limitations on betrayal. That sorta thing can last a lifetime and change behavior and future relationships. Allie is completely justified.
 

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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
Lol what ?? Do you hear the contradiction in your wording ??:ROFLMAO::KEK: You can't be in an unhappy, sexless relationship, where the arguing is more frequent than the love and respect part of it and also be in love with your woman or her with you, cuz it's like saying you can be a devout religious person or traditional man during the day and a serial killer or something 'nice' like that during the night. It don't make any sense as an argument, but it makes for a good joke.:ROFLMAO:

Plus, explain this to me... if Allison loved the MC sooo much and really wanted to make the marriage work, seeing how she got all butthurt and emotional about it when he confronted her, why did she not put enough effort to do just that and refused to listen to his problems and have sex with him ?? An attractive woman like that in a sexless relationship or marriage like theirs is a ticking time bomb, bro'. There's no "if" she'll cheat on her man in this example, it's just a big "when" and "how many times". No judging from me. Hell, I'd do the same if I somehow had the stomach to put up with a woman like Allison's bullshit and constant nagging.

5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other.
I can't say for sure she let him wait that much without having any sex at all, but if I'm not mistaken, he hints that they barely had any action or not as much as he wanted for a few years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.

for the average person
That right there is the problem... you're too emotional about a fictional example, generalize shit based on how you think relationships work as opposed to how they really do and how other ppl make them work or not, while I also add reality to the equation. If she neglects you, doesn't respect you, doesn't care about your opinions and problems, prioritizes various other stuff over your relationship, she don't love you, man. You roommates with benefits at best, not a married couple, and an attractive woman like Allison will always have way more options than a guy like the MC does, realistically speaking. So no, her staying the loyal, butthurt lil good girl after the divorce is the devs' way of stylishly dodging a nuclear missile filled with all the hatred and 'feedback' you can read in a lot of other non NTR game threads and just that, nothing profound about it. Instead, they focus all their hate on V's bipolar clingy, needy big ass while trying to sell us the lie that she'd make for a good wife, only for a few hours a week lol.

Also, neither the MC, nor Allison are exactly average-looking ppl, even for porn game standards. Sure, they can't brag about their finances or invites to posh parties to socialize with 'good' ppl from high society, but both of them would have it pretty easy on dating apps and dating in general, especially Allison, which is why I say her reactions sometimes are complete nonsensical female bullshit at work.

the moment I realized there was no relationship left anymore or love. I would either of left , or tried to make things work and tough it out if I had fond memories and didn't want to let go because of that.
If you had those fond moments most, if not all of us, would've AND a kid, would you still leave her if she kept ignoring you and treated you as harshly as Allison did the MC prior to their divorce and after it ??:WaitWhat: I somehow don't think so, but I might be wrong on this. I know I wouldn't put up with that, I admit I'd prolly snap and pimp-slap the shit outta her if she dared to threaten to not let me see my kid anymore just cuz she's too stupid, petty and butthurt to move on from a guy she likes to claim a lot not to love or care about anymore.

Sorry, but I'm only human. Love and respect need to be mutual to make things work out smoothly, if they ain't, we don't have a relationship anymore, we should find other ppl to love and move on with, but we can't make that lil kid disappear, so we'd have to at least tolerate each other for his/her sake without throwing spiteful remarks 24/7.
 
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If you had those fond moments most, if not all of us, would've AND a kid, would you still leave her if she kept ignoring you and treated you as harshly as Allison did the MC prior to their divorce and after it ??:WaitWhat: I somehow don't think so, but I might be wrong on this. I know I wouldn't put up with that, I admit I'd prolly snap and pimp-slap the shit outta her if she dared to threaten to not let me see my kid anymore just cuz she's too stupid, petty and butthurt to move on from a guy she likes to claim a lot not to love or care about anymore.

Sorry, but I'm only human. Love and respect need to be mutual to make things work out smoothly, if they ain't, we don't have a relationship anymore, we should find other ppl to love and move on with, but we can't make that lil kid disappear, so we'd have to at least tolerate each other for his/her sake without throwing spiteful remarks 24/7.
Yeez it sometimes feels like people have to explain stuff to you like a 5 year old, yes everyone should still divorce in a not functional relationship even with a kid involved.

Co-parenting works and is fine.

Allison wouldnt treat the MC this harshly after a divorce without the cheating.

You keep using made-up scenarios from your head and i suspect it you who's too emotional about pixels, feels like you had a nagging woman in the past and were too much of a coward to break up and try to justify your cheating like that but what do i know.

Pimp-slapping a women is fitting for you, thats probably why you would end up (rightfully so) with less rights for your child. And it makes you look very simple minded dude, if you really end up in a situation like that at some point and care about your kid you should beat her in the courtroom.

You keep making up dumb examples like "IF YOU WERE WITH THE DEVIL WHO EATS KIDS WOULD YOU STILL BREAK UP WITH HER IF YOURE UNHAPPY? MAYBE SHE WOULD EAT LILY TOO" .... better quickly cheat to avoid that :WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Dont you see how dumb that is?
 
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Does this also apply to the very many LIs who are being wronged by the various MCs in these renpy porn games? If they feel like the MC isn't giving them what they need, they can just go out and bang someone else?
Yes, actually. Characters in games making decisions without the MCs input are people in their own settings.

I fully support conasquences in story based games.
 

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I'm so disappointed with the first time Jasmine sex scene (which should be like a date, special/romantic for me) . not a fan of that maid cosplay and I prefer to bang her original looks and full nude, she is the only one I want in this game, don't care about the ex-wife and the sex friend of MC though they are attractive but I'm not getting turn on to those women that MC already banged offscreen right from the very start of the story, still prefer relationship build up and first time sex scenario

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Yeah, in my PTs the MC-Jas encounter was physically intense, but not romantic, and especially their strange post-sex chat, at the end of which Jas turfs the MC out of her bed and hotel room. Wasn't sure what to make of it all.
 
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In my opinion, taking into account the sauna discussion with Natalya, she is in denial
Maybe my bias for Jammin color's my impression a bit too much but I would agree with her being in denial. She seems to genuinely have an interest in the MC's class and the work he's doing that she is now helping with, there's is also the shared interest in racing which the MC is only doing for Lilly but it's there. Her being in denial would fit if she's worried about being involved with her teacher who she is working as well and also atm at least a big part of her more personal life with the racing since that's also something she does with her Grandfather. The relationship with her is, emotion wise, a slow burn imo.

TLDR: Jammin will likely be more romantic/emotional later when she is more comfortable. And in my totally unbiased opinion she is worth the wait. Jasmine is love, Jasmine is life! :love:
 

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Maybe my bias for Jammin color's my impression a bit too much but I would agree with her being in denial. She seems to genuinely have an interest in the MC's class and the work he's doing that she is now helping with, there's is also the shared interest in racing which the MC is only doing for Lilly but it's there. Her being in denial would fit if she's worried about being involved with her teacher who she is working as well and also atm at least a big part of her more personal life with the racing since that's also something she does with her Grandfather. The relationship with her is, emotion wise, a slow burn imo.

TLDR: Jammin will likely be more romantic/emotional later when she is more comfortable. And in my totally unbiased opinion she is worth the wait. Jasmine is love, Jasmine is life! :love:
Yeah I get that, but what my point is the first time for me is special, since MC already banged her, and got a taste of her, the next one will lost a bit of an impact to me.
 

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Yeez it sometimes feels like people have to explain stuff to you like a 5 year old, yes everyone should still divorce in a not functional relationship even with a kid involved.

Co-parenting works and is fine.

Allison wouldnt treat the MC this harshly after a divorce without the cheating.

You keep using made-up scenarios from your head and i suspect it you who's too emotional about pixels, feels like you had a nagging woman in the past and were too much of a coward to break up and try to justify your cheating like that but what do i know.

Pimp-slapping a women is fitting for you, thats probably why you would end up (rightfully so) with less rights for your child. And it makes you look very simple minded dude, if you really end up in a situation like that at some point and care about your kid you should beat her in the courtroom.

You keep making up dumb examples like "IF YOU WERE WITH THE DEVIL WHO EATS KIDS WOULD YOU STILL BREAK UP WITH HER IF YOURE UNHAPPY? MAYBE SHE WOULD EAT LILY TOO" .... better quickly cheat to avoid that :WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Dont you see how dumb that is?
The kid is probably why the MC even lasted so long without getting any. And frankly it's probably also why Allison stayed even though their marriage was on the rocks.
 

xXwankerXx

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Wasn't sure what to make of it all.
It probably depends on the path you're on. I have one save for each girl, and in my V playthrough, she put that funny lame attempt of a French accent, fucks the MC and kinda hints at wanting them to be more at some point in the future... had a good laugh watching his scared expression when she gave him THE "talk" after they were done. She'd make a pretty fuckin' hot bride and baby mama tho ngl, but i don't think her racing legend grandpa would be that easy to convince the MC actually loves her and isn't with her just for a good time.

In my opinion, taking into account the sauna discussion with Natalya, she is in denial
Yep. Seemed a lil jelly too, more than it's necessary for some casual fun between two consenting adults.

Co-parenting works and is fine.

Allison wouldnt treat the MC this harshly after a divorce without the cheating.
Not for them, in case you missed this lil detail, like you usually do. I'm sure those two idiots arguing all the time calling each other names like "that son of a bitch" even Lily noticed is absolutely healthy, normal and exactly what every kid would want from his parents... constant arguing, a lot of nagging, fights, all that good stuff. Fuck that good upbringing and functional family bs, who needs it anyway ??:FacePalm::FacePalm::KEK:

Wonder why those peeps who prolly get a hard-on for numbers every time they making stats on bad stuff happening IRL suggest this kinda abusive behavior, broken families, (in a lot of cases) single mother households raise the next generations of junkies, prostitutes, school shooters, gangsters, robbers, well, good ppl like them.

You keep making up dumb examples
Allison wouldnt treat the MC this harshly after a divorce without the cheating.
feels like you had a nagging woman in the past and were too much of a coward to break up and try to justify your cheating like that but what do i know.
You say this to me right after you claim it's perfectly normal for an attractive woman with a good paying job and a daughter to think of to hold on to a butthurt like that for 5y without using figurative cream to treat it, and still pretend to take the moral high ground, cuz you think you said something real profound ?? Try another lie man, and go outside more often. You'll prolly have an epiphany on how ridiculous or made-up those examples I gave really are.

Dont you see how dumb that is?
I do, and already addressed this a few times. You'd know it if you took 10 mins of your time to read what I posted so far before trying to argue actual facts and shit that does happen in reality with 'facts' you pull out of your ass.

Ofc, it sounds dumb asf, but it applies in a lot of relationships and marriages in real life. It's why I said some ppl don't give a shit about their partner's feelings, logic and accountability and just go with the flow trying to bullshit their way out of trouble afterward by playing the victim card, like sweet Allison did, minus the cheating part.

If the other one cheats, you need to tell them to go for your own peace of mind, find someone else and move on with your life, cuz once a cheater, prolly always a cheater, as they say... or try to think of your kids and try to have a somewhat friendly relationship with that person for their sake, instead of being stuck for a few years on something that happened a looong time ago.

It sure sounds to me like this topic hits close to home quite a lot here, but relax, I'm just trying to prove a point on this fictional example and nothing more than this.
 
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For the first time ever, we’ve crossed 1,000 Patrons — a huge milestone that means the world to us! None of this would be possible without your incredible support, and we’re so deeply grateful for every single one of you. Thank you for believing in us, cheering us on, and being part of this amazing journey ❤

And with our heartfelt thanks, we bring you our four shining stars: Allison, Jasmine, Veronica, and Maggie! Stay tuned for more updates, and don’t forget — the December wallpaper featuring the dynamic duo, Allison and Jasmine, drops tomorrow!

It's because of you that we can continue bringing our ideas to life. Thank you for being the best community ever! ❤
 

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Congratz for reaching 1k patrons, UndergroundStudio. Here's hoping you'll make 10k asap. You bois deserve all the love and support you can get for being an awesome team and a perfect example on how much ppl value hard work, professionalism, passion and dedication.;)(y)

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Looking at that bonus render above, all I'm seeing is three beautiful women, a dream blonde-brunette-redhead combo any red-blooded man needs in his life, and ugh... Allison.

Jasmine is love, Jasmine is life, Jasmine is my future wife!
Get back in line, man. She has a long ass list of potential husbands and lovers in this thread alone, starting with me, ofc.:sneaky:

We'll probably have to fight each other in a royal rumble match to see who wins the right to put a ring on her finger, or we'll just have to take turns on her and let the lady pick her dream man afterward. Whichever works best for her.:whistle:
 

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For the first time ever, we’ve crossed 1,000 Patrons — a huge milestone that means the world to us! None of this would be possible without your incredible support, and we’re so deeply grateful for every single one of you. Thank you for believing in us, cheering us on, and being part of this amazing journey ❤

And with our heartfelt thanks, we bring you our four shining stars: Allison, Jasmine, Veronica, and Maggie! Stay tuned for more updates, and don’t forget — the December wallpaper featuring the dynamic duo, Allison and Jasmine, drops tomorrow!

It's because of you that we can continue bringing our ideas to life. Thank you for being the best community ever! ❤
As everyone can see Allison is holding the only meaningful number, without her this would mean zero, therefore Allison is the best girl proven. :love:
 
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