ImmortalNight

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1. Dude doesnt have parents or they would have pulled the plug. You stay in long term coma because there is no one to agree to it. Hospitals aren't really big on keeping coma patients alive.

2. After the first year, you can more or less give up on waking up. Its no joke when a long term coma patient wakes up because it just doesn't happen.

3. Gracie had to move on with her own life. MC was dead to her. She didn't want to believe it, but he was. Even when he did wake up and move on with his own life and became successful Gracie wouldn't try and drag him down with her health and the girls.

4. While I know the girls suddenly appearing seems to be a plot hole in this, the girls are grown and capable of taking care of themselves as they had been while she is in her last years. The least she can do is get them to meet their father, and he to them.
Um we know he has parents. They are shown in game. Also Gracie never says she didn't want to burden him and then sending the girls to him at all makes no sense.
 
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Um we know he has parents. They are shown in game. Also Gracie never says she didn't want to burden him and then sending the girls to him at all makes no sense.
He had parents. They died before he woke up. They put money into a trust fund that paid for his medical bills.
Not wanting to burden him while she was still alive but sending him her kids as an act of desperation (when she knows she's done and not wanting the kids to be orphaned and penniless) makes perfect sense to me.
 
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1. Dude doesnt have parents or they would have pulled the plug. You stay in long term coma because there is no one to agree to it. Hospitals aren't really big on keeping coma patients alive.
May differ dependent on where you are, but some parents had to file lawsuits and go through the courts for years before they could a life support turned off. Doctors just don't "pull the plug" like that, even if permanent damage is certain and recovery almost impossible - and here we had to have better signs, after all MC returned to life apparently almost none the worse for wear.
 

ImmortalNight

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He had parents. They died before he woke up. They put money into a trust fund that paid for his medical bills.
Not wanting to burden him while she was still alive but sending him her kids as an act of desperation (when she knows she's done and not wanting the kids to be orphaned and penniless) makes perfect sense to me.
Right but the conflict was that his parents were alive and visiting him overlapping Gracie doing so. So them not knowing about her or taking her in after discovering the pregnancy is a plot hole.
 

ut1stgear1

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Actually it was hospital protocol to only allow 2 visitors with preference given to family so they couldn't meet Gracie or vice versa.
 

ImmortalNight

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Actually it was hospital protocol to only allow 2 visitors with preference given to family so they couldn't meet Gracie or vice versa.
Then when arriving to find visitors were already in with him the parents would ask who it was. There's still a lobby where there paths would cross.
 

ut1stgear1

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I would be quite surprised to have the same game featuring two such different approaches to gameplay at the same time with the option to select between them. Some games are kind of hybrid-ish but at the end of the day usually fall into one of the groups. And yes, you can tackle the same setting, even major storylines with both approaches, but within the same game I see a programmer's nightmare.
I think it could be done but the biggest fall out would be the size of the program, it would rapidly become very BIG.
 

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Then when arriving to find visitors were already in with him the parents would ask who it was. There's still a lobby where there paths would cross.
There is a large assumption you're making. The MC's parents might not have accepted Gracie or the triplets for many, many reasons. They might be religious and wouldn't want the scandal. They might think Gracie is just hitting them up for money and getting a piece of the MC's saving (which is being used to keep him alive), they might just not care.

By definition it's not a plot hole for two reasons.

1.) The story is not over and it might be addressed and hasn't been yet for pacing or other reasons.
2.) It's completely feasible they might not have crossed paths (if Gracie only visited once and the parents weren't there) or the parents rejected Gracie for the reasons above and it just doesn't factor into the story in a major way. In which case it's just a random missing detail

We won't know if either of these are the case until the game is finished.
 

Maviarab

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There is a large assumption you're making. The MC's parents might not have accepted Gracie or the triplets for many, many reasons. They might be religious and wouldn't want the scandal. They might think Gracie is just hitting them up for money and getting a piece of the MC's saving (which is being used to keep him alive), they might just not care.

By definition it's not a plot hole for two reasons.

1.) The story is not over and it might be addressed and hasn't been yet for pacing or other reasons.
2.) It's completely feasible they might not have crossed paths (if Gracie only visited once and the parents weren't there) or the parents rejected Gracie for the reasons above and it just doesn't factor into the story in a major way. In which case it's just a random missing detail

We won't know if either of these are the case until the game is finished.
She visited every day for almost a year. It's stated in the letter. I think that kind of commitment would override point 1 don't you?? This also blows part of your point 2 out of the water. Seriously, why do people keep coming up with conjecture and shit that is plainly explained within the game.
 

ImmortalNight

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She visited every day for almost a year. It's stated in the letter. I think that kind of commitment would override point 1 don't you?? This also blows part of your point 2 out of the water. Seriously, why do people keep coming up with conjecture and shit that is plainly explained within the game.
Also I don't recall the specifics but it seemed like his parents were described as good caring people who couldn't go on after the loss of their son. No way would they reject the possibility of helping raise his children.
 

Drew Anderson

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She visited every day for almost a year. It's stated in the letter. I think that kind of commitment would override point 1 don't you?? This also blows part of your point 2 out of the water. Seriously, why do people keep coming up with conjecture and shit that is plainly explained within the game.
There have been people in real life who have done more to bilk people out of money. And I'm not disputing anything in game. Just saying it's not a plot hole that the MC's parents wouldn't have taken Gracie and kids in.

Also I don't recall the specifics but it seemed like his parents were described as good caring people who couldn't go on after the loss of their son. No way would they reject the possibility of helping raise his children.
Assuming they believe they are his children. And assuming there isn't a stigma that gets attached to their son for having kids from a one night stand. Acknowleding they are their grandkids could have complicated implications that might reflects badly on them and their son.
 

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Maybe the parents blamed Gracie for their son drinking and driving and having an accident?
That's possible, but it requires for the parents to have had the story explained to them. Now, they would've found him naked in the car and intoxicated, this leads to questions. However, would these questions lead to them knowing that Gracie was the reason for it?
 

Drew Anderson

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That's possible, but it requires for the parents to have had the story explained to them. Now, they would've found him naked in the car and intoxicated, this leads to questions. However, would these questions lead to them knowing that Gracie was the reason for it?
The accident was the night of prom = drinking
He was naked AND Gracie claims to be pregnant with his kids (assuming they talked, this would come up)

It's not a big leap.
 
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I just hope the story continues being deep and emotional. It touched me in a way few games of the genre have managed to.

I've noticed something over the last hundred pages or so. It goes like this:
From: "Wow, this looks great, the renders are beautiful but damn your cliffhanger!"
To: "Y no sex? In 0.02 will we b abl to sex the grls?"
Then you point out that you get to see Allison's oddly impressive rack (honestly, it looks overly large for her frame) in one scene and they still go "Y no sex?!"
I mean, it looks nice and modest while she's wearing things but I don't think her bra is strong enough to squeeze down those cantaloupes. Probably uncomfortable at best, really.

Common problem, really. You try to tell a story and some people only want Quick-Porn.
I agree. This game really hits the emotions hard. Sometimes it’s nice to have a game that’s just pure lewdness (Witch Trainer is an example - super fun game, and it delivers what it promises), but sometimes you just want to get immersed in a story.

This game, DeLuca Family, Melody, and (especially) Acting Lessons have all left an emotional imprint.
 

JacobinLolicon

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How would she be burdening him? That doesn't make sense. Just let it go mmush...I'm sorry but whichever way you look at it (clever plot twist aside in next episode)...it makes no sense at all that in the years since he woke up (min 6 iirc by default)..she would not get in touch. She has denied us and the girls all those years of getting to know us/each other (and possibly helping her). She obviously still felt something for us, ibviously knows we're a decent guy...knows we have a successful business....knows where we live.....

But conveniently sends them to us when they have no back up/safety net.....

Shall I really continue?
Are you honestly looking for realism in your incestuous sexual corruption game?
 

KinkierThanThou

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Are you honestly looking for realism in your incestuous sexual corruption game?
Probably beats looking for realism in the Fast And The Furious franchise...

Can we all agree that these type of games run on suspension of disbelief? Radiant isn't even the worst offender so far (it's after all, only a single installment).

I'm going to reserve judgement until it's at least 5 installments in, so judging by the current pace, see you in 2022.
 
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