VN Ren'Py Radiant [v0.6.3] [RK Studios]

[The ArcKnight]

I get where you are coming from...I like hentai too...but just because you prefer "hymenated" virgins and personally don't consider them a virgin without a hymen doesn't change the strict definition of virgin, nor does it mean the developer of the game should change a primary character plot point. Brooke has never had penetrating intercourse, thus she is a virgin. There are plenty of stories where a virgin gives birth to a child (Shmi Skywalker and the virgin Mary are the first 2 that come to mind). On top of that, brooke's story isn't even the weirdest story in a porn game (Maou Sama definately takes some very weird turns). It may not be your (or honestly even my) preferred story arc...but it is an interesting plot point that actually has some potential for the future of the game in general, and broker's story specifically. Besides...the game isn't over yet, we may still get some hymen breaking.

Oh I'm not asking for a change at all, just expressing my utter confusion at the inclusion of this plot point.
I feel like this plot point was included for the Virginal/defloration fetishists', which as someone who is one, this is way off the mark, at least for me.

The plus side of a girl being a virgin is the tightness and (for some) the idea that you're taking her purity. The plus side of having a milf is you get an experienced woman who knows what she's doing and how to please a man.
For Brooke, she has none of the good qualities of either, that tightness is already gone and probably had her hymen taken by the invitro device by the doc. Anyone who's fucked a woman both before and after childbirth knows it doesn't feel the same, so she'll be looser. Brooke also admittedly has no experience with men so doesn't know what she's doing.
Its like we get the worst qualities of both a milf and a virgin here, doesn't know what she's doing, and will feel loose due to childbirth. xD

So I don't get the reason for this plot point? Why the need to make Brooke a technical virgin when all the benefits of her being a virgin are gone? Could easily of just said she had a one night stand or failed relationship previously and been fine. I mean, we already have 3 virgins in the triplets + Gracie (one can only pray they still have hymens like their mother.)

I still like the game, just confused by the need for the mental gymnastics.

Well, it's possible that THAT kid is also from the MC. I wouldn't be surprised if the "donor" is the MC...
Would probably be an explanation for the mental gymnastics regarding the virgin/invitro stuff...

Ahahahahaha, yup, this right here is the only reason I could see for the need for this virgin/invitro shenanigans.
I just don't get how the "Holy Virgin" myth type thing could be sexy, and this is coming from someone who finds virgins sexy, lol.

 

[horstg]

Ahahahahaha, yup, this right here is the only reason I could see for the need for this virgin/invitro shenanigans.
I just don't get how the "Holy Virgin" myth type thing could be sexy, and this is coming from someone who finds virgins sexy, lol.

yeah, me neither...

 

[Sotak]

Oh I'm not asking for a change at all, just expressing my utter confusion at the inclusion of this plot point.
I feel like this plot point was included for the Virginal/defloration fetishists', which as someone who is one, this is way off the mark, at least for me.

The plus side of a girl being a virgin is the tightness and (for some) the idea that you're taking her purity. The plus side of having a milf is you get an experienced woman who knows what she's doing and how to please a man.
For Brooke, she has none of the good qualities of either, that tightness is already gone and probably had her hymen taken by the invitro device by the doc. Anyone who's fucked a woman both before and after childbirth knows it doesn't feel the same, so she'll be looser. Brooke also admittedly has no experience with men so doesn't know what she's doing.
Its like we get the worst qualities of both a milf and a virgin here, doesn't know what she's doing, and will feel loose due to childbirth. xD

So I don't get the reason for this plot point? Why the need to make Brooke a technical virgin when all the benefits of her being a virgin are gone? Could easily of just said she had a one night stand or failed relationship previously and been fine. I mean, we already have 3 virgins in the triplets + Gracie (one can only pray they still have hymens like their mother.)

I still like the game, just confused by the need for the mental gymnastics.



Ahahahahaha, yup, this right here is the only reason I could see for the need for this virgin/invitro shenanigans.
I just don't get how the "Holy Virgin" myth type thing could be sexy, and this is coming from someone who finds virgins sexy, lol.

It may be that RK Studios added this particularly creative story twist because of a personal experience, or for creativity purposes, or maybe for those of us who play these games for really diverse story and more than just a quick fap...I mean if we just wanted to jerk off there is exorbitantly more than enough porn out there...fitting a plethora of styles and fetishes...to get our rocks off without having to work our way through a detailed story gameplay to get it. An example being, As you pointed out, there is lots of hentai that fit your particular fetish...some of which also have good stories, but don't require the gameplay and choice directing. Besides, the MC had a hymen breaking deflowering with the triplets mother at the beginning of the game...and will likely have 3 more with the triplets...so the Brooke twist adds variety that keeps the game from overplaying 1 trope while still offering a similar option. That's just good writing in my book. And if the player doesn't like it they always have the option of not perusing Brooke as a LI at all and just keep it professional with her.

 

[Badjourasmix]

yeah, me neither...

You get the best of both worlds. You have a milf that has never been touched by another man. What is there not to love?

 

[horstg]

You get the best of both world. You have a milf that has never been touched by another man. What is there not to love?

It just seems so ... contrived

 

[Badjourasmix]

It just seems so ... contrived

True, but at the end of the day these games are all fantasy even if some are more based on reality than others. As long as the game is fun I don't really care that much about stuff like that.

 

[horstg]

True, but at the end of the day these games are all fantasy even if some are more based on reality than others. As long as the game is fun I don't really care that much about stuff like that.

well, we will see what they'll do with that whole thing...

 

[The ArcKnight]

You get the best of both worlds. You have a milf that has never been touched by another man. What is there not to love?

But in this case you get the worst of both worlds, a virgin who's as loose as a milf but doesn't know what she's doing! xD

It's just a silly plot point when any of the alternatives (Norah's adopted so Brooke's actually a virgin or Norah's the result of a failed relationship so Brooke doesn't have alot of experience but knows what she's doing) could of been just fine without the need for it to feel convoluted or feeling like its pandering to the virgin fetishists when it delivers none of the good aspects of a girl being a virgin.

But contrived story points aside, I'm at least thankful we had Gracie and will have Liv, Allie, and Maddy for those into defloration.

I'm also very interested in Vanessa's story. Poor girl seems like she's had a rough life and it will be interesting to see where she goes and see if we can build her back up.

 

[Badjourasmix]

But in this case you get the worst of both worlds, a virgin who's as loose as a milf but doesn't know what she's doing! xD

It's just a silly plot point when any of the alternatives (Norah's adopted so Brooke's actually a virgin or Norah's the result of a failed relationship so Brooke doesn't have alot of experience but knows what she's doing) could of been just fine without the need for it to feel convoluted or feeling like its pandering to the virgin fetishists when it delivers none of the good aspects of a girl being a virgin.

But contrived story points aside, I'm at least thankful we had Gracie and will have Liv, Allie, and Maddy for those into defloration.

I'm also very interested in Vanessa's story. Poor girl seems like she's had a rough life and it will be interesting to see where she goes and see if we can build her back up.

I think a big part of the virgin fetish is the idea of a girl that has never been touched by another man. I personally don't really care about that I would've been fine if her kid was the result of a failed relationship, but a lot of people really like the idea of being the only man in the girl's life. I don't think her story is that convoluted, she wanted a kid and she just decided to do artificial insemination instead of going the traditional route.

 

[The ArcKnight]

I think a big part of the virgin fetish is the idea of a girl that has never been touched by another man. I personally don't really care about that I would've been fine if her kid was the result of a failed relationship, but a lot of people really like the idea of being the only man in the girl's life. I don't think her story is that convoluted, she wanted a kid and she just decided to do artificial insemination instead of going the traditional route.

That is fair, I just have always seen the virginal fetish as the whole kit and caboodle: a tight lover who's never known another, with your cock being the first thing to spread her open, as proven by her hymenal blood.
Which is why I've always preferred the eastern version of this fetish: Defloration, which always includes bleeding.
Without each part, (tight lover, never known a man, bleeds), it just feels empty.
But I suspect that would be the same for any fetish people had, like if you had a fetish for big natural boobs but all you got was big fake boobs, you might feel a bit cheated?

I never considered the only part some people would care about would be the "never touched by another man" as its always been wrapped up together for me. The more you know.

I am just happy that we've gotten Gracie as a proper defloration scene.
Hopefully Liv, Allie, and Maddie will get them as well, I mean why have the blood option if you don't plan to use it! lol.

But that aside, how are people feeling about the other parts of this update?
Anyone else excited for Vanessa and Mira? What about our cab hopping new smol?

 

[raptr]

So much time waiting for this one. I really liked V1, and was starting to worry this project was dead.

I liked the update. It just was very little content and story progress to be the work of the past 8 months with a 6.5k $/month Patreon.
Hope the next updates come a bit faster. Although not a supporter, so can't complain.

Can anyone briefly tell me what he said in his latest "Addressing common criticisms" Patreon post?

 

[Cartageno]

I think it is always quite interesting what precisely some people see in a/get from a fetish or kink. It's different for many and very enlightening. And also with a distance to reality - in games I do get the virgin fetish and may like it myself (see sig). In real life? No, thanks, not anymore.

This probably is, at the risk of going OT, one of the reasons why it is a bad idea to ask any dev to include any fetish they didn't include: they will be just as clueless about what you want from this fetish and get it all wrong ("I included a virgin as you wanted" - "I didn't mean zodiac sign, buffoon!"), while alienating other people. If you want good NTR, BDSM, whatever content, go ask devs who like it themselves.

 

[Master of Puppets]

This is really good. What happened to Gracie is so sad, how ever since he woke up he was dreaming about her but couldn't remember who she was. And she never reached out to him either. I totally get him crying when he read her letter, I started to tear up a little in real life, and that doesn't happen often. Whenever the girls talk about how hard their lives were, I can just imagine how much he wishes he could have been there. And there definitely seems to be something special going on with how she finally told him about herself just as the girls arrived. That was odd.
I like the pure route. I'm not a huge fan of perving on the girls; seducing and/or corrupting them is fun, but games where the horny girls seduce their innocent daddy are even better.
Also I hope that asshole cop gets what's coming to him soon, our guy has enough things going on in his life without him adding to it all. Harassing rich celebrities isn't a great career move for a cop, just what he's done already could get him fired if his superiors don't have his back. Hell, going after rich celebrities who've actually done something isn't good for a cop's career, never mind bothering ones who haven't.

 

[The ArcKnight]

This is really good. What happened to Gracie is so sad, how ever since he woke up he was dreaming about her but couldn't remember who she was. And she never reached out to him either. I totally get him crying when he read her letter, I started to tear up a little in real life, and that doesn't happen often. Whenever the girls talk about how hard their lives were, I can just imagine how much he wishes he could have been there. And there definitely seems to be something special going on with how she finally told him about herself just as the girls arrived. That was odd.
I like the pure route. I'm not a huge fan of perving on the girls; seducing and/or corrupting them is fun, but games where the horny girls seduce their innocent daddy are even better.
Also I hope that asshole cop gets what's coming to him soon, our guy has enough things going on in his life without him adding to it all. Harassing rich celebrities isn't a great career move for a cop, just what he's done already could get him fired if his superiors don't have his back. Hell, going after rich celebrities who've actually done something isn't good for a cop's career, never mind bothering ones who haven't.

That reminds me of the Car scene.
Anyone else get got by that fucking jumpscare?!
xDDD

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

That reminds me of the Car scene.
Anyone else get got by that fucking jumpscare?!
xDDD

Jumpscares never get me. I was thinking "Oh lord, do we gotta boink her as well now?"

 

[Badjourasmix]

But that aside, how are people feeling about the other parts of this update?
Anyone else excited for Vanessa and Mira? What about our cab hopping new smol?

I am not that sure if Brooke's kid will be a love interest in the future. It would make sense since they are planing an extra patch for more risqué content. But at this point it is kind of hard for me to see Brooke being okay with that. Even if the devs decide to make her a love interest I don't think it will be anytime soon.

 

[Kukipett]

Nice game, i just started to play it today, nice girls, nice thing that you can have choices that seem to have consequences.
Many choices with the three daughters, it was much fun!
Everything went fine, i had the opportunity to choose to date or not Brook and Mina(i'm not sure of her name), but later i got really frustrated and angry, why the fuck am'i forced to have that stupid massage with Nathaly.
All that time i was litterally angry and it definitely destroyed the good mood i got from the previous play time.
Why the MC has to be such a pussy and act like a child, he is supposed to be a good business man and a successful photograph and he behaves like a teenager!!
That event really pissed me off, i know i'm a bit a party pooper but as i'm a very serious man, that kind of forced bullshit got me on the edge!
Now i'm forced to get out and have a drink in a bar, maybe a lap dance with some advantages (don't tell my wife !) to recover from this inconvenience!

 

[Sotak]

For everyone sleuthing on the cameos here is another

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Damn...y'all are really focussing on some minute details. Professional Easter egg hunters. Nice catch.

 

[Master of Puppets]

I had a laugh when this came up:

That's one of the worst skybox images I've seen in a while.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I didn't really mind the Brooke stuff that much, it's not something that would be considered common irl, but artificial insemination is a real thing and some lesbian couples do that so it's not like it would be impossible for a single woman to do that as well.