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Assassini

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I've played through it and honestly to me it feels more like an exploitation / sadistic run. Everything you do is designed to make them completely loyal and obedient to you without question. Essentially removing any and all independence from the girls.
Dark results in physical abuse. I suspect when MC finally has sex with Maddie on the "Dark" path, it will be nonconsensual. Drew's comment seems to be the direction of things: no real love, just manipulation and likely abuse. I suspect MC will turn the sisters against each other, particularly against Maddie. If you want to see the machinations of a sick and twisted mind, go ahead and play that route. I was playing all three paths at first, then after the spanking (not playful, but sadistic) in Ch3, I decided I'll stick with other decision routes.
So it's actually properly DARK, dark. And not just kinky taboo dark.

See this is now making me torn, because I quite like sadism, non-con stuff, forced obedience and the like. But generally speaking I like that kind of stuff in a sexy fantasy "the girl is secretly into it" sort of way. Meanwhile this currently is sounding a bit more like it's just cruel and not particularly nice or fun to play out...

I agree with you on this. Something in my head keeps telling me that these three girls just lost their mother and are grieving. Maddie's way of grieving seems to be lashing out, and to strike her down because of it is really as you put it, just a dickhead move.
Like I say, for me it's the separation between "sexy taboo fantasy" and "actually treating someone like shit". Where I can get into being really rough and kinky and stuff, even violent frankly, but it's the attitude behind it that is more important. And a lot of the early dark interactions just seemed downright sociopathic (like Krystal2 said) which just somewhat kills the vibe for me.

Either way, I may need to go back and try it out myself, just to see whether I'm actually into it or not...
 
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Dogorti

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So it's actually properly DARK, dark. And not just kinky taboo dark.

See this is now making me torn, because I quite like sadism, non-con stuff, forced obedience and the like. But generally speaking I like that kind of stuff in a sexy fantasy "the girl is secretly into it" sort of way. Meanwhile this currently is sounding a bit more like it's just cruel and not particularly nice or fun to play out...



Like I say, for me it's the separation between "sexy taboo fantasy" and "actually treating someone like shit". Where I can get into being really rough and kinky and stuff, even violent frankly, but it's the attitude behind it that is more important. And a lot of the early dark interactions just seemed downright sociopathic (like Krystal2 said) which just somewhat kills the vibe for me.

Either way, I may need to go back and try it out myself, just to see whether I'm actually into it or not...
I personally found it hot, but of course maybe my tastes can be a bit extreme (although I do like the vanilla stuff too). I think the devs will make Maddie develop a humiliation Kink, or maybe mind-breaking, but that's my opinion. Only time will tell
 
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The big difference as I see it is BDSM is consensual. Both parties know their role and the use of safe words. There is a mutual respect for their perspective roles and each one knows they can break character at anytime.

But this being foisted upon Maddie for the sake of breaking her reeks of a sociopath's true natural tendency of a total lack of empathy. Cold , calculating , devoid of emotion... For that I believed that the Dev. overshot his mark and landed in Ted Bundy land.
 

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The big difference as I see it is BDSM is consensual. Both parties know their role and the use of safe words. There is a mutual respect for their perspective roles and each one knows they can break character at anytime.

But this being foisted upon Maddie for the sake of breaking her reeks of a sociopath's true natural tendency of a total lack of empathy. Cold , calculating , devoid of emotion... For that I believed that the Dev. overshot his mark and landed in Ted Bundy land.
Ever read "American Psycho"? That's MC right there
 

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The big difference as I see it is BDSM is consensual. Both parties know their role and the use of safe words. There is a mutual respect for their perspective roles and each one knows they can break character at anytime.

But this being foisted upon Maddie for the sake of breaking her reeks of a sociopath's true natural tendency of a total lack of empathy. Cold , calculating , devoid of emotion... For that I believed that the Dev. overshot his mark and landed in Ted Bundy land.
Thats why dark path is great. It does not lie
 
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yltohawk

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Thats why dark path is great. It does not lie
It most certainly dose... Do you really believe this is an honest relationship. Have you ever been on the receiving end of a parent gone berserk. That somehow the Dev has written something noble in his depiction of depravity through child destruction.

Look we all are perverts here so I'm not going to clime on a soapbox espousing my virtues cause in the end Im not much different from you so you do you but as far as I am concerned I want nothing to do with the dark path. It's just that it scares me that some derive pleasure from the degradation of others. To actually need to revert to something that callous to feel any emotion in live that one would need to feel alive by actively destroying others.
 

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It most certainly dose... Do you really believe this is an honest relationship. Have you ever been on the receiving end of a parent gone berserk. That somehow the Dev has written something noble in his depiction of depravity through child destruction.

Look we all are perverts here so I'm not going to clime on a soapbox espousing my virtues cause in the end Im not much different from you so you do you but as far as I am concerned I want nothing to do with the dark path. It's just that it scares me that some derive pleasure from the degradation of others. To actually need to revert to something that callous to feel any emotion in live that one would need to feel alive by actively destroying others.
I love mindbreak and degradation
 

Assassini

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Ah: so you're a sociopath. Nice.
Thank you for proving my point.
I mean, I know I was coming here from the perspective of "the protagonist felt too mean" but woah guys, let's dial that back a notch.

Quite frankly I'm also into mindbreak and degradation, and what you guys seem to be doing is associating sexual fantasy with real life. Just because you find the fantasy of something hot does not mean that A. you want to actually do it in real life or B. actively support it happening.

Things like CNC exist for a reason, it's hot in fantasy even if it isn't in reality and it's actually more telling if you can't separate the two.
 

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WHEN 0.5 ? 2024 ... IF WE LUCKY

OTHERWISE 2026 ? nice nice,


gonna give my 20 beer bucks to other less troll developer , Good luck with your Fish , cat , dog
 
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Dogorti

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Gosh, we are all degenerates here to a greater or lesser extent, that you start judging the kinks of others is a bit pathetic, you look like those parents who believe that playing shooters makes you a murderer, or those feminists who say that watching porn makes you sexist. it's just fiction guys don't confuse it with reality
 

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Gosh, we are all degenerates here to a greater or lesser extent, that you start judging the kinks of others is a bit pathetic, you look like those parents who believe that playing shooters makes you a murderer, or those feminists who say that watching porn makes you sexist. it's just fiction guys don't confuse it with reality
been happening for years .... :rolleyes:
 
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Gosh, we are all degenerates here to a greater or lesser extent, that you start judging the kinks of others is a bit pathetic, you look like those parents who believe that playing shooters makes you a murderer, or those feminists who say that watching porn makes you sexist. it's just fiction guys don't confuse it with reality
Someone that's been here as long as you should have had their hope of reasonable discussion unerotically trampled underfoot.
 
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