VN Ren'Py Radiant [v0.6.3] [RK Studios]

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I mean if they want people to believe that they are committed to the development of the game, one update a year is the bare minimum they can do. If they don't release anything for over a year again then there is no hope for this game.

Pretty much.
One update a month, a pace quite a few developers tried in the beginning, is basically unsustainable, I think, most developers who tried it burnt out or changed their release schedule.
One substantial update every three to four months or a big one every five to six months seems to be where it is at, the best games around here seem to keep this schedule.
But one update a year seems like a prelude to abandonment.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

想更新 please

You will get the update if an update happens while you're still alive.

 

[Generalxxx9]

the next uptadte will be before 2024!

 

[Skrotum]

But one update a year seems like a prelude to abandonment.

There is at least one developer on this site that can pull it off, but here I don't feel it.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

Maybe i'm the only one who doesn't care when these games are updated? I mean I really like this hobby(?) and I enjoy many games on this forum but I don't pay for any of the games I play here and I don't support any developer, maybe that's because I don't really care how long a game takes to update

Its so nice that you're a guy thats okay with waiting for 14 months for an update, but not all of us want to put up with that shit, and some of us did drop money for the project.

 

[dolfe67]

They said after this update they're on a 4-5 months cycle. Wait&See

 

[Trikus]

Its so nice that you're a guy thats okay with waiting for 14 months for an update, but not all of us want to put up with that shit, and some of us did drop money for the project.

Nobody forced you to drop money if you did. Patreon is clear you are supporting the development and he has given you stuff throughout the months. It is up to you to decide if the content the person gives you is worth the money you gave them. If the answer is no, you stop giving them money.

EDIT: Face palm me all you want but you are the one that chose to give them money. Be wiser with your money next time.

 

[YoraeRasante]

Nobody forced you to drop money if you did. Patreon is clear you are supporting the development and he has given you stuff throughout the months. It is up to you to decide if the content the person gives you is worth the money you gave them. If the answer is no, you stop giving them money.

EDIT: Face palm me all you want but you are the one that chose to give them money. Be wiser with your money next time.

You know, I'm not saying it was you the one doing the first, but this is a perfect capstone for most conversations here.

"You are too slow! Where is the update? We have been waiting for months and yet we got no updates, or an update so small it is worthless compared to how much we waited!" is one of the most common complaints.

And one of the most common replies is "You can't complain! You did not join the patreon so you have no right to!"

So here we have someone that goes "I DO have the right of complaining, because I did pay!"

And you reply with "You can't complain about it just because you paid money! You did it because you wanted to!

 

[Son of Durin]

You know, I'm not saying it was you the one doing the first, but this is a perfect capstone for most conversations here.

"You are too slow! Where is the update? We have been waiting for months and yet we got no updates, or an update so small it is worthless compared to how much we waited!" is one of the most common complaints.

And one of the most common replies is "You can't complain! You did not join the patreon so you have no right to!"

So here we have someone that goes "I DO have the right of complaining, because I did pay!"

And you reply with "You can't complain about it just because you paid money! You did it because you wanted to!

Dev White Knights can't be reasoned with.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

Why else whould you support a game other than to get updates to the damn game released on a reasonable timeline?

You're supporting the developer not the development of the game.
A game developer may only be someone that develops games to you but before that, they are also people.

 

[chainedpanda]

You're supporting the developer not the development of the game.
A game developer may only be someone that develops games to you but before that, they are also people.

There is a massive hole in your logic. People only support the developer of the game because they develop a game. Without the game, the individual isn't a developer. Full stop. Why would anyone donate to these random people for no reason? People pay for the game, not the developer.

And that is the problem. If I buy something from Amazon, I expect it to come within a reasonable time frame. If it doesn't, I'm gonna be quite pissed. I purchased the item with the expectation of receiving that item. I didn't purchase it with the intent of supporting Jeff Bezos nor Amazons employees. The same with the game. People pay the developers with the reasonable belief that they will receive content for the game in a reasonable time frame. Without this expectation, no one would bother paying for the game nor support the devs.

The only debate to be had on this issue is what that "reasonable time frame" actually is. That said, the vast majority of donators don't just play Radiant, they play many other games as well. There is a reasonable expectation that comes from this, and as a result, players, and donators, have developed an expectation that a game should adhere to. An expectation that the developers you worship have completely failed to achieve. I do not believe that Radiant gets undeserved hate, even if the game is really good. The developers that you defend are the reason why it deserves the hate it receives.

 

[DragonsFear]

oh well on the bright side luckely alot of patrions are stepping out now ,because they see the scam off it all ( especially on the promises made part )

so unless the dev change there pace and actually do the work ,i see it happen in the near future(looking at the dicline in the last few months) that they eventually be out of big bucks ,and coming back from that is close to impossible

(and in this case i would say its your own fault to begin with)

so instead of living of peoples money , maybe its time to work for it

 

[tazaaron]

Logic is wrong. They making the same money they have made all year.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

There is a massive hole in your logic. P

-snip, garbage-

The developers that you defend are the reason why it deserves the hate it receives.

Blah blah blah.
I don't think there's a hole at all. Patreon is a creator support platform, not a store.
Defending them? Not quite. I just acknowledge that they are in fact, flesh and blood humans. And humans are fallible.
I used to support this game's development but haven't since January.

 

[biggestboyo]

I come back a year later and find that people are still talking about slow updates and milking. Seems patrons have dropped slightly, down 1-2k from a year ago too. Which means 1 update per year or 40-50k, or half a mill to complete. I do still enjoy the game and renders though! See you once the game is complete in 5-6 years.

 

[DanThaMan]

I come back a year later and find that people are still talking about slow updates and milking. Seems patrons have dropped slightly, down 1-2k from a year ago too. Which means 1 update per year or 40-50k, or half a mill to complete. I do still enjoy the game and renders though! See you once the game is complete in 5-6 years.

In 5-6 years the game will have only had 5 or 6 more updates and i doubt it will be finished in that amount of time..

 

[Grif1001]

decent game so far...

 

[BigDaddyDom]

They said after this update they're on a 4-5 months cycle. Wait&See

Haha yeah they also said updates would come every 2-3 months When myself and a few others were keen enough to recognize updates would take MUCH longer due to Scammed's low effort (I approximated at least 5-6 months), we were called "liars" . When we pointed out his endless lies and contradictions we were censored and attacked by swarms of his cronies. 2 years later, and what do we see? As predicted, 6.5 month update, then 8+ months, then 14 months

Glad more and more people are starting to see through the bull/milking now though! The funny thing is, it's not even the lies and shady tactics used, it's really not that great of a game. I think most people just don't realize how many other FD games are out there that are much better written, and with better game play. The best thing about this game initially was the renders, but other games have definitely caught up and even surpassed Radiant in terms of render/animation quality.

 

[MorbidViews21]

this guy took like a year to release a update thats like a hour long. smh. this game has no chance to be finished lol

 

[Brannon]

this guy took like a year to release a update thats like a hour long. smh. this game has no chance to be finished lol

No chance is a very fatalistic point of view.

It has a very low chance to be finished any time soon, but it is bigger than 0 ...